My first EVER large way meeting, the Dr himself eyeballed me for some time from the side of the stage in Nashville, TN. (I remember thinking, who is that guy, and why is he looking at me... where the HELL is that girl that brought me here... she should be done in the bathroom by now....should I leave? I promised to save her seat...)
Trying to enjoy the music... Claudette was singing I think... this old guy walked right up to me and asked if the seat next to me was taken... (this was odd, because there were several OTHER seats open in front of me, on the other side of me, down the row, behind me) So, I told him the truth, I was saving it for the girl that brought me...
THIS WAS NOT THE RIGHT ANSWER. The answer to that question could only be YES or NO, as he YELLED ... and I mean YELLED... it shook up even the people behind me... people stopped talking amongst themselves... it was very quiet :unsure:
He walked away, seated himself on and end seat in another row, turned slightly in my direction, and stared at me.
Since I didn't know who he was, and I didn't really want to show that he shook me up, I remained seated and thought several times to flick him off
After seeing him on stage, I was glad I was 'cool' about it... everyone seemed to really like the guy :(
Sorry... off topic there~
Honestly, the Way has taught me there is an acceptable excuse for bad behavior:
Taken straight from Romans 7:19 & other places...
"For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do."
Where is free will?
Don't we have power?
Are we able to kick some b*tt?
Will God himself help us whenever we ask?
The writing on the stone continues to pass the excuse on...
Consider "I wish I were the man I know to be" in the context of his self promulgated image:
The myths about Veepee included:
1- Greatest teacher of God's word since the 1st century
2-the man of God for the entire world
3-a man who had not broken fellowship with God for years at a time
4-a man who miraculously saw snow on the gas pumps
5-a man who had all 5 gift ministries
6-a man who had been shown the 3rd heaven and earth by revelation
7- a man who had been "transported" from one location to another
8-a man who routinely got revelation that the rest of us couldn't "handle"
9-the greatest man to live since Jesus walked on earth
There are many more but you get the idea...these are all things that I heard either from Veepee himself or from his top flunkies...
...First he creates an image of himself that is incredible to say the least...portraying himself as one of the greatest spiritual giants in recorded history...and then...he says "I wish I were the man I know to be".
In other words, he was trying to give us the impression that he himself felt that he should have been even GREATER!
It was his way of soliciting even more adoration...
He wanted people to say..."Golly gee Dr. Wierwille, you are already such a great great man, and you think that you've failed by not being even greater! Oh please sir, we admire you so much, please don't be hard on yourself because you have already accomplished far more than any of us low lifes will ever accomplish. We are in awe of you sir"
THAT's what he was after! False humility? He redefined the term.
...And as far as him feeling guilty for being so "carnal"...FORGET IT...He never felt guilty...he thought he was right in doing the things he did.
He had no repentance...he told lcm (concerning his sexual behavior) that he (lcm) would never be a great man of God unless he "loosened up in this category of life"...Veepee encouraged his top leaders to follow his example is screwing all the young way girls...afterall, all the women in the kingdom belong to the king.
The truth is...Veepee WAS the man he knew to be. A lecherous, lying drunk who was in awe of himself and demanded the adoration of his followers.
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IT'S THE SAME OLD EXCUSE...
My first EVER large way meeting, the Dr himself eyeballed me for some time from the side of the stage in Nashville, TN. (I remember thinking, who is that guy, and why is he looking at me... where the HELL is that girl that brought me here... she should be done in the bathroom by now....should I leave? I promised to save her seat...)
Trying to enjoy the music... Claudette was singing I think... this old guy walked right up to me and asked if the seat next to me was taken... (this was odd, because there were several OTHER seats open in front of me, on the other side of me, down the row, behind me) So, I told him the truth, I was saving it for the girl that brought me...
THIS WAS NOT THE RIGHT ANSWER. The answer to that question could only be YES or NO, as he YELLED ... and I mean YELLED... it shook up even the people behind me... people stopped talking amongst themselves... it was very quiet :unsure:
He walked away, seated himself on and end seat in another row, turned slightly in my direction, and stared at me.
Since I didn't know who he was, and I didn't really want to show that he shook me up, I remained seated and thought several times to flick him off
After seeing him on stage, I was glad I was 'cool' about it... everyone seemed to really like the guy :(
Sorry... off topic there~
Honestly, the Way has taught me there is an acceptable excuse for bad behavior:
Taken straight from Romans 7:19 & other places...
"For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do."
Where is free will?
Don't we have power?
Are we able to kick some b*tt?
Will God himself help us whenever we ask?
The writing on the stone continues to pass the excuse on...
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Consider "I wish I were the man I know to be" in the context of his self promulgated image:
The myths about Veepee included:
1- Greatest teacher of God's word since the 1st century
2-the man of God for the entire world
3-a man who had not broken fellowship with God for years at a time
4-a man who miraculously saw snow on the gas pumps
5-a man who had all 5 gift ministries
6-a man who had been shown the 3rd heaven and earth by revelation
7- a man who had been "transported" from one location to another
8-a man who routinely got revelation that the rest of us couldn't "handle"
9-the greatest man to live since Jesus walked on earth
There are many more but you get the idea...these are all things that I heard either from Veepee himself or from his top flunkies...
...First he creates an image of himself that is incredible to say the least...portraying himself as one of the greatest spiritual giants in recorded history...and then...he says "I wish I were the man I know to be".
In other words, he was trying to give us the impression that he himself felt that he should have been even GREATER!
It was his way of soliciting even more adoration...
He wanted people to say..."Golly gee Dr. Wierwille, you are already such a great great man, and you think that you've failed by not being even greater! Oh please sir, we admire you so much, please don't be hard on yourself because you have already accomplished far more than any of us low lifes will ever accomplish. We are in awe of you sir"
THAT's what he was after! False humility? He redefined the term.
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...And as far as him feeling guilty for being so "carnal"...FORGET IT...He never felt guilty...he thought he was right in doing the things he did.
He had no repentance...he told lcm (concerning his sexual behavior) that he (lcm) would never be a great man of God unless he "loosened up in this category of life"...Veepee encouraged his top leaders to follow his example is screwing all the young way girls...afterall, all the women in the kingdom belong to the king.
The truth is...Veepee WAS the man he knew to be. A lecherous, lying drunk who was in awe of himself and demanded the adoration of his followers.
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wow groucho
that is a heavy statement!
i could not agree more
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