2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
No written or spoken prophecy which is the word of God is my or your personal view. The bible is what God wants to share with you because he loves you. Words of prophecy are what God wants to share with you to comfort you are warm you of things to come with loving directions to follower.
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I have a little problem with 2 Peter 1:20.
In the context it is talking about the "PROPHETS", and that THEY were not putting "their own" view or words when writing the scripture. IT was the spirit that moved them.
TWI used this to tell us not to question or think about the verses and what they mean (no private interpretation).
I think sometimes we can make things so complicated as to "outsmart" ourselves [in ancient T-Bonia "outsmart" meant, "to be confused, befuddled, bewitched, bothered, and bewildered"]. I personally like E.W. Bullinger's Companion Bible with a gazillion notes per page – but I tend to get bogged down in so many details and sometimes miss the simple and obvious message. I figure God has put the Bible together in such a way as to be accessible, relevant, and enlightening to anyone curious enough to open it [and their hearts] – regardless of their level of intelligence – furthermore the Holy Spirit has a key role in our understanding of the Scriptures [Psalm 119: 18, 27; 147: 19; Matthew 16: 13-19]. I've come across some helpful pointers - a few of which I'll list below [along with the source].
From "What to do on Thursday: A Layman's Guide to the Practical Use of the Scriptures" by Jay E. Adams:
Discovering the intent of the Holy Spirit ought to be the goal of all Bible study. A correct interpretation is one that accurately mirrors the thought that God had in mind and had written by inspiration. We should always seek to find the purpose in Scripture – what God intends for it to do to the reader. A simple example: The great purpose of the Gospel of John is to bring someone to saving faith, to get them started in an eternal relationship with God [John 20: 30, 31]. Whereas I John is geared more for strengthening the existing relationship believers have with God .
From "Understanding the Bible" by John R.W. Stott:
Look for the natural sense [the obvious, logical meaning] Look for the original sense [historical, cultural, and grammatical]. Look for the general sense [in harmony with the rest of Scripture].
Another interesting book [because of its negative approach] is "Scripture Twisting: 20 Ways the Cults Misread the Bible" by James Sire.
Something a little meatier are books on systematic theology. I may have to read slower – or break out the dictionary – but who cares – I find neat stuff in some – and don't have to agree with everything they say! I like the following one because it gets me THINKING ABOUT THE WAY I THINK about Scripture.
The following from "Christian Theology" by Millard Erickson:
Christian theology has a definite world-view. A believer philosophizes from the position that Scripture is true, that the Bible clearly affirms a theistic understanding of reality [Hebrews 11: 3]. Philosophy should be thought of primarily as an activity – philosophizing – rather than a body of truths. It is potentially capable of functioning from any perspective and with any set of data. Hence, it is a tool that can be used by theology. Philosophy can help us ferret out the presuppositions behind an idea or a system of thought and sometimes expose erroneous logic.
Erickson recommends that theologians should only give appropriate credence to any particular theological statement – in other words – only give them the proper weight they should carry in our belief system. He then lists 6 degrees of authority in descending order – but you'll get the idea if I just mention a few key ones. The first is "direct statements of Scripture are to be accorded the greatest weight. To the degree that they accurately represent what the Bible teaches, they have the status of a direct word of God. Great care must of course be exercised to make certain that we are dealing here with the teaching of Scripture, and not an interpretation imposed upon it" ["God is love." I John 4: 16 would be in this category… T-Bone].
The next one down in authority is "direct implications of Scripture are to be given high priority. They're slightly less authoritative than direct statements, however, because the introduction of an additional step [logical inference] carries with it the possibility of interpretational error."
Lowest in authority on Erickson's list is "outright speculation, which frequently includes hypotheses based upon a single statement or hint in Scripture, or derived from somewhat obscure or unclear parts of the Bible, may also be stated and utilized by the theologians. There is no harm in this as long as the theologian is aware and warns the reader or hearer of what he is doing. A serious problem enters if these speculations are presented with the same degree of authoritativeness attributed to statements of the first category listed above."
This systematic theology stuff is useful for checking out your own thinking. What we think is important because it governs the way we act. I think God gave us His Word because He wants to draw us into a transforming relationship with Him. Here's something that helps me with personal application of the Bible. It's from "Living by the Book" by Howard G. Hendricks & William D. Hendricks. It gets me reading with an active mind – nine questions for personal application when you read the Bible:
Is there an example for me to follow? Is there a sin to avoid? Is there a promise to claim? Is there a prayer to repeat? Is there a command to obey? Is there a condition to meet? Is there a verse to memorize? Is there an error to mark or avoid? Is there a challenge to face?
I've saved the best tip for last. Proverbs 9: 10 " The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding."
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Love you Roy
I have a little problem with 2 Peter 1:20.
In the context it is talking about the "PROPHETS", and that THEY were not putting "their own" view or words when writing the scripture. IT was the spirit that moved them.
TWI used this to tell us not to question or think about the verses and what they mean (no private interpretation).
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Beloved Bliss
God loves you my dear friend
It not wrong to question a verse
I may not have the answer you need but God and his son Jesus the Christ
The Way wanted to guide but its the spirit should guide us
Note a prophet is just basicly a child of God
I believe some verses have more than one understanding
These prophets were written or talking to the people of their time by word of prophecy using words from their minds
But you know that .. Now if you would like you can tell me the problem you have with the verses because I would need more to understand
But I may not have a answer but God will
I find myself questioning all things
thank you
with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy
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I think sometimes we can make things so complicated as to "outsmart" ourselves [in ancient T-Bonia "outsmart" meant, "to be confused, befuddled, bewitched, bothered, and bewildered"]. I personally like E.W. Bullinger's Companion Bible with a gazillion notes per page – but I tend to get bogged down in so many details and sometimes miss the simple and obvious message. I figure God has put the Bible together in such a way as to be accessible, relevant, and enlightening to anyone curious enough to open it [and their hearts] – regardless of their level of intelligence – furthermore the Holy Spirit has a key role in our understanding of the Scriptures [Psalm 119: 18, 27; 147: 19; Matthew 16: 13-19]. I've come across some helpful pointers - a few of which I'll list below [along with the source].
From "What to do on Thursday: A Layman's Guide to the Practical Use of the Scriptures" by Jay E. Adams:
Discovering the intent of the Holy Spirit ought to be the goal of all Bible study. A correct interpretation is one that accurately mirrors the thought that God had in mind and had written by inspiration. We should always seek to find the purpose in Scripture – what God intends for it to do to the reader. A simple example: The great purpose of the Gospel of John is to bring someone to saving faith, to get them started in an eternal relationship with God [John 20: 30, 31]. Whereas I John is geared more for strengthening the existing relationship believers have with God .
From "Understanding the Bible" by John R.W. Stott:
Look for the natural sense [the obvious, logical meaning]
Look for the original sense [historical, cultural, and grammatical].
Look for the general sense [in harmony with the rest of Scripture].
Another interesting book [because of its negative approach] is "Scripture Twisting: 20 Ways the Cults Misread the Bible" by James Sire.
Something a little meatier are books on systematic theology. I may have to read slower – or break out the dictionary – but who cares – I find neat stuff in some – and don't have to agree with everything they say! I like the following one because it gets me THINKING ABOUT THE WAY I THINK about Scripture.
The following from "Christian Theology" by Millard Erickson:
Christian theology has a definite world-view. A believer philosophizes from the position that Scripture is true, that the Bible clearly affirms a theistic understanding of reality [Hebrews 11: 3]. Philosophy should be thought of primarily as an activity – philosophizing – rather than a body of truths. It is potentially capable of functioning from any perspective and with any set of data. Hence, it is a tool that can be used by theology. Philosophy can help us ferret out the presuppositions behind an idea or a system of thought and sometimes expose erroneous logic.
Erickson recommends that theologians should only give appropriate credence to any particular theological statement – in other words – only give them the proper weight they should carry in our belief system. He then lists 6 degrees of authority in descending order – but you'll get the idea if I just mention a few key ones. The first is "direct statements of Scripture are to be accorded the greatest weight. To the degree that they accurately represent what the Bible teaches, they have the status of a direct word of God. Great care must of course be exercised to make certain that we are dealing here with the teaching of Scripture, and not an interpretation imposed upon it" ["God is love." I John 4: 16 would be in this category… T-Bone].
The next one down in authority is "direct implications of Scripture are to be given high priority. They're slightly less authoritative than direct statements, however, because the introduction of an additional step [logical inference] carries with it the possibility of interpretational error."
Lowest in authority on Erickson's list is "outright speculation, which frequently includes hypotheses based upon a single statement or hint in Scripture, or derived from somewhat obscure or unclear parts of the Bible, may also be stated and utilized by the theologians. There is no harm in this as long as the theologian is aware and warns the reader or hearer of what he is doing. A serious problem enters if these speculations are presented with the same degree of authoritativeness attributed to statements of the first category listed above."
This systematic theology stuff is useful for checking out your own thinking. What we think is important because it governs the way we act. I think God gave us His Word because He wants to draw us into a transforming relationship with Him. Here's something that helps me with personal application of the Bible. It's from "Living by the Book" by Howard G. Hendricks & William D. Hendricks. It gets me reading with an active mind – nine questions for personal application when you read the Bible:
Is there an example for me to follow?
Is there a sin to avoid?
Is there a promise to claim?
Is there a prayer to repeat?
Is there a command to obey?
Is there a condition to meet?
Is there a verse to memorize?
Is there an error to mark or avoid?
Is there a challenge to face?
I've saved the best tip for last. Proverbs 9: 10 " The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding."
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God loves you my dear friend
I hope its ok I saved that reply to my computer it blessed me a lot
thank you
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