vpw's plagiarized sources

[WordWolf]

This thread is an attempt at a one-stop-shop thread for locating all the books

vpw used for all of his books. Most of you are aware that there were 2

types of book that say "by Victor Paul Wierwille" on the cover.

The SECOND type-which came later-were written by committee, and the

research staff wrote 100% of the contents except the introduction/preface.

That's books like "Jesus Christ Our Promised Seed" and

"Jesus Christ Our Passover."

vpw himself otherwise provided zero percent of the contents.

The FIRST type-which describes most of "vpw's" books-

were the result of taking one book of one author and retyping its contents,

or taking more than one book and inserting chapters and retyping their

aggregate contents.

Almost all of vpw's "signature books" fall in this category.

For ease of handling-and those arriving late- it seems like a good idea

to try to compile a single thread with all the found "sources"

that he cut and pasted to "write" books.

[WordWolf]

Ok, then, starting off....

The White Book, "Receiving the Holy Spirit Today"...

RTHST's 1st edition was Jack E. Stiles' "the Gift of the Holy Spirit",

with a few words moved around.

Its introduction included an anonymous reference to a man of God

who taught him on this subject. That's the Stiles whose book

this was a complete photocopy of.

Later editions deleted all mention of ANY man teaching him

on the subject (3rd edition and later). Later editions also

featured EW Bullinger's "the Giver and His Gifts".

(This book is currently available under the name

"Word Studies on the Holy Spirit.")

The Bullinger book is the source of the 385 occurrences

of "pneuma" in the New Testament.

(Which vpw was unable to even pronounce correctly.)

Small portions of the White Book were also taken

from BG Leonard's CTC "Gifts of the Spirit" class.

Edited January 28, 2006 by WordWolf

[bliss]

Hey WW

I am a little confused. Do all 3 men (Stiles/Leonard/Bullinger) share the same beliefs in holy spirit?

I don't have any of these books, but in trying to piece this together, Doc Vic took Stiles for the first edition, than added some Bullinger/Stiles in the later editions?

Then instead of word for word plagerism, he just took all these guys and mushed it together, but never noted or mentioned them?

I am pretty sure that the 3 men have differences, so Doc vic just took what he liked and made his own book out of it.....?

[Thomas Loy Bumgarner]

Bliss, in essence yes with possibly influence by Rufus Mosley, Smith Wigglesworth(from England), Lester Sumrall, Sam Storms, John Ireland, Ruben Archer Torrey(associated with Dwight Moody), Albert Benjamin Simpson who founded the Evangelical Christian Missionary Alliance(Nyack College), Ted Wise, Derek Prince,

John Wimber of Vineyard Fellowship Ministries, just to name a few.

[WordWolf]

I don't have any of these books, but in trying to piece this together, Doc Vic took Stiles for the first edition, than added some Bullinger/Stiles in the later editions?

Yes.

Then instead of word for word plagerism, he just took all these guys and mushed it together, but never noted or mentioned them?

Some of it WAS word-for-word. Stiles, he lifted the Q & A, for example, and Bullinger, he

lifted the appendices and all 385 occurrences of pneuma.

I am pretty sure that the 3 men have differences, so Doc vic just took what he liked and made his own book out of it.....?

Yes. Stiles was the best he could find with hands-on writing, Bullinger for the

intellectual understanding, and Leonard, he had a cross-section of both.

Juedes documented some of this very well, years ago...

http://www.empirenet.com/~messiah7/vp_stolenrthst.htm

http://www.empirenet.com/~messiah7/vp_stiles.htm

http://www.empirenet.com/~messiah7/vp_sources.htm

[WordWolf]

The "Power For Abundant Living" book was, of course, a transcription from

the class of the same name. The Orange Book's origins therefore are the

same as the origins of the class. In its first iteration, that meant it was

the exact same thing as Leonard's CTC Gifts of the Spirit course.

Later iterations pruned out the Advanced class from the

"PFAL Foundation" class, and filled in the remaining space with

Bullinger's "How to Enjoy the Bible", and culminating the class

with Sessions 9-12, which were Stiles and Bullinger's works on

Holy Spirit.

[dmiller]

I have a few books by Bullinger, including Word Studies on the Holy Spirit

and How To Enjoy the Bible.

Word Studies is the list of the 385 usages of pneuma hagion,

with a short commentary on each verse.

Imo -- everything you have ever heard docvic say about the various usages of PH,

seem to have come directly from this book by Bullinger.

How To Enjoy The Bible has many sections with familiar headings:

*No Private Interpretation*;

*define words by their biblical uage*;

*All scripture .....*;

*context of where it is written*;

*absent from the body, present with the Lord*;

and more.

(ps. --- click the link above for an online version.) ;)

My RHST book disintigrated many years ago, so I no longer have a copy of that one.

I just recently received the J.E. Stiles book in the mail, and am starting to look it over.

Pity -- that I don't have the white book (RHST) to compare with the others!

(anyone got a spare copy they would like to sell?) :)

Edited January 29, 2006 by dmiller

[WordWolf]

Isn't the Stiles book out-of-print? Did you get a back-copy or a current print run copy?

Inquiring minds want to know!

[Nottawayfer]

The "Power For Abundant Living" book was, of course, a transcription from

the class of the same name. The Orange Book's origins therefore are the

same as the origins of the class. In its first iteration, that meant it was

the exact same thing as Leonard's CTC Gifts of the Spirit course.

Later iterations pruned out the Advanced class from the

"PFAL Foundation" class, and filled in the remaining space with

Bullinger's "How to Enjoy the Bible", and culminating the class

with Sessions 9-12, which were Stiles and Bullinger's works on

Holy Spirit.

Did he even steal the character names (i.e., Maggy Muggins, Snowball Pete, Henry and/or Herman Balowko (sp?) etc.) from BG Leonard?

[dmiller]

Isn't the Stiles book out-of-print? Did you get a back-copy or a current print run copy?

Inquiring minds want to know!

Back-copy --- I guess you would say.

Got it off e-bay. It was considered *used* (though in great condition).

*Used* because the name P*ggy Ervin is written on the first page.

Anyone know her??

I don't. And I got it from a third party, not P*ggy*.

[WordWolf]

Did he even steal the character names -i.e., Maggie Muggins, Snowball Pete, Henry and/or Herman Belloco etc.) from BG Leonard?

The "original" PFAL (what I call its first iteration)

was a clone of Leonard's class in EVERY detail.

Leonard's class had imaginary characters called Maggie Muggins, Johnny Jumpup and

Henry Belocco. (I'm not sure about Snowball Pete or Herman B.)

Leonard was Canadian. Maggie Muggins was a children's television character

easily recognizable by his audience by name.

(As if you said "Captain Kangaroo then said..." or "then Big Bird said...)

Johnny Jumpup is the name of a plant.

Using those 2 names as characters in a class, however, that was straight

out of Leonard.

Herman Belocco probably started due to an inability of vpw to precisely

recall EXACTLY what was in Leonard's class-so sometimes it was Henry,

sometimes it was Herman.

Snowball Pete was mentioned ONCE in pfal, and doesn't match the pattern

Leonard normally used-normal first name, possible normal last name.

This suggests-if I may engage in wild speculation-that this was made up

by vpw in a pitiful attempt at originality.

One of our posters-who took Leonard's class-said that vpw even ripped off

Leonard's speech patterns and style, which made it eerie to hear Leonard

teach after hearing vpw imitate him.

Leonard handled publishing under Canadian Christian Press.

vpw handled publishing under American Christian Press.

Someone also pointed out that one of Leonard's books contains an

introduction that slightly resembles one of vpw's claims.

Expand it, add grandiose claims, and an imaginary snowstorm,

and you have the 1943 promise.

(Leonard never claimed God told him he was unique nor mentioned

the 1st century church to him.)

[dmiller]

Well shucks ~~ as long as *inquiring minds want to know* ~~~

hahahaha ~~ click HERE.

twi is behind the eight ball, from more than just GS.

(Praise the Lord!!)

and as George Jessio used to say ~~~

GLOW-RY!!

[WordWolf]

*reads*

Ok, but that had almost nothing to do with my question about Stiles' book.

You already answered, though-it's out of print.

I wonder what IN PRINT books were written by competent Christians on

the Holy Spirit field, and are thus currently "available"....

[WordWolf]

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In other news....

"Are the Dead Alive Now?" is a compilation of some of Bullinger's

works,

most notably "the Rich Man and Lazarus: an Intermediate State?"

and "King Saul and the Witch of Endor: Did the Prophet Samuel Rise at Her Bidding?"

Most readers will note that vpw also ripped off the "title with question mark"

in addition to the content of the books.

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"Studies in Human Suffering", later called "Job: Victim to Victor",

was taken from Bullinger's book "the Book of Job".

That became a large chapter in one of the "Studies in Abundant Living".

[Thomas Loy Bumgarner]

WW, see my response to Bliss. Most books on the HS field are published by Whitaker Press or Christian Publications(Albert Benjamin Simpson/Evangelical Christian Missionary Alliance). Both are located in PA and are often listed in Christian Book Distributors catalouge, and are found in Christian Family Bookstores or Lifeway.

[Xena]

Burn the chaff Day: This isn't a book, but rather a ritual, which was also "plagiarized" or at least copied, by TWI. And the original version is from an unlikely source - the Druids. Interesting how theWay spent so much energy disecting the Paegan origins of Christmas and Easter, but endorsed Uncle Harry's tradition of burning the chaff. Most Wiccan circles perform this ceremony routinely. Check it out --

http://members.tripod.com/~Epona_Seaborn/beltane.html

[Xena]

Sorry. I didn't mean to de-rail this topic.

[WordWolf]

Burn the chaff Day: This isn't a book, but rather a ritual, which was also "plagiarized" or at least copied, by TWI. And the original version is from an unlikely source - the Druids.

Or, with all his talk of reliving the Book of Acts, he deliberately copied

an event IN the Book of Acts, Acts 19:18-20.

"And many that believed came, and confessed, and showed their deeds.

Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together,

and burned them before all, men: and they counted the price of them,

and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver.

So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed."

Did "Uncle Harry Day" resemble incidents in a variety of cultures where people

burned stuff? I'd expect so. It also resembled Spring Cleaning.

Resemblance does not equal causality- a similarity in events does not

require that one was the origin of the other.

Frankly, I'd question whether vpw was widely-read enough to have

heard of any such ritual. He demonstrated LAZINESS more than any

scholarly attribute.

This thread is more to compile the actual accounts of books where vpw

had the book, and then produced a book with its contents shortly

thereafter (or not shortly), with no proper attribution of the sourcebook

and entire sentences, structures or concepts lifted directly from the

one and inserted into the other. There's plenty of that without any need

to speculate.

[WordWolf]

TLB, I can find lists of publishing companies whenever I want.

My question was about the titles of books that would be worth picking up.

[Thomas Loy Bumgarner]

WW, titles include Lester Sumrall's The Gifts and Ministries of the Holy Spirit; Sam Storms' Handbook on the Holy Spirit; Smith Wigglesworth-Experiencing God's Power with chapters on healing, annointing, gifts of the spirit; and Albert Simpson's The Holy Spirit: Power from on High, just to name a few.

[themex]

WW:

Hi, do you have read all those books and take the classes? Because you are talking about a lot of time ago.

[WordWolf]

... Lester Sumrall's "The Gifts and Ministries of the Holy Spirit"; Sam Storms' "Handbook on the Holy Spirit"; Smith Wigglesworth-"Experiencing God's Power" with chapters on healing, annointing, gifts of the spirit; and Albert Simpson's "The Holy Spirit: Power from on High"...

You've read those 4 and personally vouch for them containing quality material?

Or are you going by reviews from others, or going from the reputations of the writers?

(I know Wigglesworth's considered quote-worthy, for example.)

[WordWolf]

*activates trans-a-lator*

HI, WW. Just wondering...

Have you read all those books and taken all those classes? Because you are talking about a lot of time ago.

Speaking of pfal: foundational, intermediate, and advanced, yes.

Speaking of the collateral books for pfal, yes.

Concerning the Stiles' book, that's been documented into the ground by

John Juedes and others. I posted links where you can make comparisons

for yourself, and YOU see if they're not identical.

Some of Bullinger's books I DO have and have read.

Some of them are accessible ONLINE.

We've discussed "the Rich Man and Lazarus" before, and some of us

have posted links to it before. (You can find it online easily enough.)

The direct inclusion of "How to Enjoy the Bible" in later pfal is blatant and obvious.

As for the inclusion of Leonard's work, that's been covered in excruciating detail

here as well. We have graduates of Leonard's class, and people who've personally

flipped thru Leonard's photo album and seen the picture that vpw gave him when he

lied to Leonard about running Leonard's class.

(This was discussed in detail on the thread "the way:living in wonderland.")

THAT this material was taken directly from the books (and classes) of others

has already been well-documented. If necessary, I suppose we can try

documenting some of it again. It's really more of a broken record THAT it

was the work of others. The links already ON this thread about the White

Book, frankly, would be a good introduction to you on this.

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BTW,

there are some people who claim that vpw "admitted" to lifting entire paragraphs,

chapters, appendices and formats from others-and entire classes in the case

of Leonard-

because, if you find a copy of "the Way:Living in Love" and turn to one page,

he says, in passing, that none of what he does is original.

However, that passing comment is far, FAR short of fulfilling the moral OR the

legal requirements-which are completely absent in all the pfal collaterals.

No mention exists in the Orange Book that it is a combination of Leonard

and Bullinger, with NO material that is not taken from Leonard's

"Gifts of the Spirit" class or Bullinger's "How to Enjoy the Bible".

Instead, the book says he threw out all his books from other authors

and ONLY used the Bible.

Virtually the SAME situation happens in the White Book, which is

Stiles and Bullinger, but BOTH their names are missing from the book.

What IS in the book is that other Christians didn't have the answers that

are in that book. (This is a LIE, since it's a combination of the books of

2 different Christians, and the books were in circulation when he got them.)

Did you mean to question whether or not the material was lifted entirely

from the books/classes of others? Did you mean to question whether it

was wrong to do so? Did I miss your question entirely?

[Thomas Loy Bumgarner]

WW, yes I have the actual books, and there is more that I own, but I am presently typing this at church and the books are at home. Other authors on related HS material are the late Reverand Dennis Bennett(Epicopalian charismatic priest who died in early 1970's); Peter Wagner; Charles Bryant; Billy Graham; Charles Stanley.

[themex]

*activates trans-a-lator*

Did I miss your question entirely?

Yes, you did. :)