What is "PTO"? Personal Time Off, or something like that?
I work in state government, and am boggled by the amount of leave you all receive. We accrue 1 week of vacation leave, 15 days of sick leave and 7 days of personal leave when we start. After 5 years, we accrue 2 weeks of annual leave, up to 5 weeks after 20 years. The sick leave and personal leave accruals remain the same. We can accumulate as much sick leave as we can. 50 Vacation leave can be carried over into the next year, and the 7 personal days have to be used by the end of the year or they are lost.
All leave must be approved by that person's manager, and is generally granted unless there is evidence of abuse or it negatively impacts work.
It certainly sounds like it's being abused where you work.
Being a newbie really has it's disadvantages, and it's harder when supervisory staff don't support the people who actually do the work.
Some of the things I've found to help me is:
Do the best job you can do (which I know you're already doing);
Which should make your boss look as good as possible (not always the easiest task in the world);
Which may get your work noticed by others higher in the government food chain. If they're at all cognizant of what goes on in your office, they may reason, "I'm noticing an improvement, and I'm pretty sure it's not coming from Supervisor X, so what's different? And who's this Wayfer Not person, anyway?"
If you get the opportunity, talk to others outside of your immediate sphere of responsibility - make yourself, your hard work and your goals known. Somebody will notice.
"The newbie will move on to bigger and better things while the 13 year veteran still complains they don't make enough money"
Working for a non-profit, I start with nothing and accrue 9 hrs of PTO every 2 weeks (includes everything, including if we want to get paid for sick or any holidays). There are only 3 holidays we get off unless they fall on a weekend: Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years Day. Guess what?
I work for the federal government. Due to my "time in service", I earn 8 Hours annunal leave and 4 hours sick leave every pay period. With annunal leave, you can not "carry over more than 240 hours from the leave ending period (usually in early January). However, sick leave can still accrue from year to year.
From what I have noticed, the civillians that work for the Department of Defence are very hard working.
Thanks for the advice. However, my supervisor is the department head. I work directly under the county assessor. He's so busy being political that he has no idea of the stuff going on in his office. He barely has time to go over travel arrangements with me. I have to force his plans out of him so I can do it appropriately.
Yes, we acccumulate a lot of PTO (personal time off). Yes it is abused A LOT! Yes they are required to get their supervisor's OK to take it off. Most of the spinless supervisors complain about deadlines not being met and the time their people take off, yet they never say "no".
Please don't accept this as a broad statement. I am just venting about my office. The 13 year veteran is a situation I have to take care of myself. I have to get nasty and put her in her place so that she doesn't take advantage of me. She believes the new people should start at the bottom and work their way up. It grates on her that I came in fresh and have a higher position than her. That's the way it will be. However, mr. assessor does know how she is and has not allowed her to be in a position to move up.
Awwwww, WN! It sucks, doesn't it? Especially when we're the "new kid on the block" and can't really say or do anything about it. It's amazing to me how organizations can allow so much laziness and still stay afloat.
I worked for a company that was so unethical it wasn't even funny. The losers, lazy folks and idiots kept getting promoted over the people who really worked and knew what they were doing. We would just laugh and say that we were in business by "sheer luck". The company culture was abusive and with that on top of the TWIt abuse I was going through, it was just too unhealthy for me to stay there no matter how good the pay was (and the pay was good!).
I soooo understand and empathize with you. :) Vent away!
I would keep your boss informed of the conflicts you're having, and make sure you are doing what your boss wants you to do, not what your co-worker wants you to do.
And, if all else fails, keep your resume up to date.
What are ya'll complaining about. Try working for yourself. Yes be self employed. The following are my benefits
No sick pay
No vacation pay
No holiday pay
No matching pay for SS. Yes an emplyer matches you SS they take from your check.
I once went on a vacation. It took three hours after I left for an employee to cost me $40,000 in work. I just take whatever I think a vacation will cost me and double it.
Also as those emplyees cheat on their time I get to pay it. No I'm not bitter. I have been voted most likly to go postal.
Sorry about your dilemma Ex70s. That does suck that your employee cost you that much. It also sucks they cheat on their time. That is just plain wrong.
Can I come work for you? I'd like to telecommute though. I don't want to live in Texas again.
Ex70'sHouston MUST turn a profit unlike city, county, state, municipal and fed entities who are funded by the taxes paid in by Ex70'sHouston and those like him.
I could turn this into a PSA for how the free market system could better serve everyone concerned, but I won't.
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Kevlar2000
Hi Wayfer,
What is "PTO"? Personal Time Off, or something like that?
I work in state government, and am boggled by the amount of leave you all receive. We accrue 1 week of vacation leave, 15 days of sick leave and 7 days of personal leave when we start. After 5 years, we accrue 2 weeks of annual leave, up to 5 weeks after 20 years. The sick leave and personal leave accruals remain the same. We can accumulate as much sick leave as we can. 50 Vacation leave can be carried over into the next year, and the 7 personal days have to be used by the end of the year or they are lost.
All leave must be approved by that person's manager, and is generally granted unless there is evidence of abuse or it negatively impacts work.
It certainly sounds like it's being abused where you work.
Being a newbie really has it's disadvantages, and it's harder when supervisory staff don't support the people who actually do the work.
Some of the things I've found to help me is:
Do the best job you can do (which I know you're already doing);
Which should make your boss look as good as possible (not always the easiest task in the world);
Which may get your work noticed by others higher in the government food chain. If they're at all cognizant of what goes on in your office, they may reason, "I'm noticing an improvement, and I'm pretty sure it's not coming from Supervisor X, so what's different? And who's this Wayfer Not person, anyway?"
If you get the opportunity, talk to others outside of your immediate sphere of responsibility - make yourself, your hard work and your goals known. Somebody will notice.
"The newbie will move on to bigger and better things while the 13 year veteran still complains they don't make enough money"
Remember - living well is the best revenge. :)
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Working for a non-profit, I start with nothing and accrue 9 hrs of PTO every 2 weeks (includes everything, including if we want to get paid for sick or any holidays). There are only 3 holidays we get off unless they fall on a weekend: Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years Day. Guess what?
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I work for the federal government. Due to my "time in service", I earn 8 Hours annunal leave and 4 hours sick leave every pay period. With annunal leave, you can not "carry over more than 240 hours from the leave ending period (usually in early January). However, sick leave can still accrue from year to year.
From what I have noticed, the civillians that work for the Department of Defence are very hard working.
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Kevlar,
Thanks for the advice. However, my supervisor is the department head. I work directly under the county assessor. He's so busy being political that he has no idea of the stuff going on in his office. He barely has time to go over travel arrangements with me. I have to force his plans out of him so I can do it appropriately.
Yes, we acccumulate a lot of PTO (personal time off). Yes it is abused A LOT! Yes they are required to get their supervisor's OK to take it off. Most of the spinless supervisors complain about deadlines not being met and the time their people take off, yet they never say "no".
Please don't accept this as a broad statement. I am just venting about my office. The 13 year veteran is a situation I have to take care of myself. I have to get nasty and put her in her place so that she doesn't take advantage of me. She believes the new people should start at the bottom and work their way up. It grates on her that I came in fresh and have a higher position than her. That's the way it will be. However, mr. assessor does know how she is and has not allowed her to be in a position to move up.
It's all a vicious circle.
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Awwwww, WN! It sucks, doesn't it? Especially when we're the "new kid on the block" and can't really say or do anything about it. It's amazing to me how organizations can allow so much laziness and still stay afloat.
I worked for a company that was so unethical it wasn't even funny. The losers, lazy folks and idiots kept getting promoted over the people who really worked and knew what they were doing. We would just laugh and say that we were in business by "sheer luck". The company culture was abusive and with that on top of the TWIt abuse I was going through, it was just too unhealthy for me to stay there no matter how good the pay was (and the pay was good!).
I soooo understand and empathize with you. :) Vent away!
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That does suck. My sympathies, Wayfer Not.
I would keep your boss informed of the conflicts you're having, and make sure you are doing what your boss wants you to do, not what your co-worker wants you to do.
And, if all else fails, keep your resume up to date.
Good luck (ha, I said "luck"!)
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ex70sHouston
What are ya'll complaining about. Try working for yourself. Yes be self employed. The following are my benefits
No sick pay
No vacation pay
No holiday pay
No matching pay for SS. Yes an emplyer matches you SS they take from your check.
I once went on a vacation. It took three hours after I left for an employee to cost me $40,000 in work. I just take whatever I think a vacation will cost me and double it.
Also as those emplyees cheat on their time I get to pay it. No I'm not bitter. I have been voted most likly to go postal.
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Nottawayfer
Sorry about your dilemma Ex70s. That does suck that your employee cost you that much. It also sucks they cheat on their time. That is just plain wrong.
Can I come work for you? I'd like to telecommute though. I don't want to live in Texas again.
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Ironic, isn't it.
Ex70'sHouston MUST turn a profit unlike city, county, state, municipal and fed entities who are funded by the taxes paid in by Ex70'sHouston and those like him.
I could turn this into a PSA for how the free market system could better serve everyone concerned, but I won't.
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