Okay, I saw the documentary on the Discovery channel, so the facts are a little clearer now. The movie did much more to humanize both the targets and the assassins than the documentary did, but both ask the same (ancient) question: Do two wrongs make a right?
If anyone has a relatively dependable crystal ball to let me know what the outcomes would be if Israel were more passive, I'm interested in knowing what it is. I'm inclined to think that Israel would be defeated, but both the movie and the documentary disagree.
Just saw this movie. I knew Fred would like it, and I was surprised at how much it blessed my life to see it.
Not just for the art and expert craftsmanship of the thing, but for the awesome depth of the Jewish heart and struggles it shows.
(In 1972 at the Olympics in Munich, the world did watch and do nothing while Jews were being killed in Germany once again.)
Movie also shows the cruel brutality of the Arab world view.
The question of fighting back in the face of overwhelming brutal retaliation (they assassinated one man, and the arabs killed 230 people "in response") begs consideration, but also the question of man's right to fight for his freedom, which is also addressed in the movie.
I, for one person only, agree with Avner's mother and say that the right of man to fight for his freedom, even in the face of certain death, is for the others who have already died as well as for those who will come, in hope that future generations may live in freedom.
I saw it soon after it came out last winter with a Jew who explained a few points to me...For example, in the end, the two men did not eat together, for one was orthodox and the other was not.
The point about violence begetting violence was the main point of the movie. I had a more negative view of it than you did, though, in that I don't think any of it was justified, even if it was for the sake of one's country. Why? Because violence begets violence.
Overall it was definitely worth watching. Very memorable scenes, and it's been a year since I saw it, so that says something. The graphic killings made a point.
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Okay, I saw the documentary on the Discovery channel, so the facts are a little clearer now. The movie did much more to humanize both the targets and the assassins than the documentary did, but both ask the same (ancient) question: Do two wrongs make a right?
If anyone has a relatively dependable crystal ball to let me know what the outcomes would be if Israel were more passive, I'm interested in knowing what it is. I'm inclined to think that Israel would be defeated, but both the movie and the documentary disagree.
Didn't anyone else see this movie?
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Just saw this movie. I knew Fred would like it, and I was surprised at how much it blessed my life to see it.
Not just for the art and expert craftsmanship of the thing, but for the awesome depth of the Jewish heart and struggles it shows.
(In 1972 at the Olympics in Munich, the world did watch and do nothing while Jews were being killed in Germany once again.)
Movie also shows the cruel brutality of the Arab world view.
The question of fighting back in the face of overwhelming brutal retaliation (they assassinated one man, and the arabs killed 230 people "in response") begs consideration, but also the question of man's right to fight for his freedom, which is also addressed in the movie.
I, for one person only, agree with Avner's mother and say that the right of man to fight for his freedom, even in the face of certain death, is for the others who have already died as well as for those who will come, in hope that future generations may live in freedom.
Glad I saw it.
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I saw it soon after it came out last winter with a Jew who explained a few points to me...For example, in the end, the two men did not eat together, for one was orthodox and the other was not.
The point about violence begetting violence was the main point of the movie. I had a more negative view of it than you did, though, in that I don't think any of it was justified, even if it was for the sake of one's country. Why? Because violence begets violence.
Overall it was definitely worth watching. Very memorable scenes, and it's been a year since I saw it, so that says something. The graphic killings made a point.
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