I had some LC's in TN that liked to live larger than I could have imagined...
They wore designer labels all the time and their house looked like something from a Better Homes spread. Even their kids had labels that I couldn't dream of affording even if I found them second hand at a Goodwill store. The kids were enrolled in all sorts of yuppie kid classes.
They bought a pure bred dog - a bishon fraize, I believe it was, for big $$$ - more than I had paid for my last car! - Then, when they decided they couldn't house train the dog (it was a nasty little dog - eeewww!) - They gave it away.
Mrs. LC was always getting facials, messages, and other spa treatments I could only dream of (and never experienced.) Then, they belonged to a Fitness Club - not a gym - but a club - pool, weights, classes, etc. - you know, more $$$.
But the thing that really made me go "hmmmm!" was when all of a sudden... Mr. LC, who was a good looking man without hair, shows up with a designer rug (toupee! hair piece! road kill!) on his head... I tried not to stare, but it was soooo weird. Come to find out it was a Hair Club for Men special. More $$$$....
They spent more on amenities in a month than my hubby and I brought home in pay! I really started resenting them for their spending habits - the rest of us were living on the edge, no healthcare, POS cars, etc., but they had the biggest, newest, and best of whatever. And we were FUNDING it! (Not to mention they had the TIME to do these things - we were working 40 hours a week, doing stuff for the ministry another 20 hours at least - what was left?)
So, don't forget your money for the ABS, coffee, and the phone hook-up.... ya hear?!
Yes,They were really great stewards of Gods money......
Several years ago,Now a big hotshot in twi,A mark wall!!e,bought a couple of us lunch at mickie dees,
his comment at the time was twi does not care how we spend the money as long as we send in an expense report.I wanted to say ,well buy me a better car.
That used to ge my gander,I live in michigan,It is a penusula,one way up one way down,Well our advances were always up north,no big deal for leadership brand new car,cruise control if they get a ticket,abs pays for it.The rest of us in our pos cars with quadzillion miles on them.
Hell with the fleet twi had ,they could have given us thier old ones....
The leadership would come up here to our little houses,could not afford anything better,after all must abs..
and they would critize our little houses or cars,telling us we were not believing bigger...
Then it was adapted to well it is a need for (leadership) to have the best...
One time Lcm was all dressed up..He looked like sherlock freaking holmes!!! the money that must have cost was ridiculous....
yet i got reamed for buying a used s-10 with 153000 miles on it cause i took out a loan...
Bitter no,But dammit God 1rst provides for us,then the church not a bunch of lazy good for nothings who will
not do anything,and why should they? It is already in thier hands need a car? ok.Need a vacation? well that is outreach.Need some new clothes?
Point is they twi was never held accouunable,when they were the person was kicked out...
Vee pee,loy rosey, it is still the same,They are or were royalty they deserved the best,God forbid if they ever got in the valley of human need,the excuse oh,someone could harm me as after alll,I have such a great knowledge of the word.
Hell tell that to Peter or paul and of of course jesus.....
...It was the lavish ego and lifestyle of Veepee who set the standard for self indulgence...I recall the motorcycles, jets, buses, clothing, etc etc etc...
...Gee, I wonder why the lavish lifestyle of Veepee wasn't tossed out as "old wine skins" along with his teachings. <_<
Luk 18:18 And a ruler asked him, "Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?"
Luk 18:19 And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.
Luk 18:20 You know the commandments: 'Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honor your father and mother.'"
Luk 18:21 And he said, "All these I have observed from my youth."
Luk 18:22 And when Jesus heard it, he said to him,
"One thing you still lack. Sell all that you have and distribute to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me."
Luk 18:23
But when he heard this he became sad, for he was very rich.
Luk 18:24 Jesus looking at him said, "How hard it is for those who have riches to enter the kingdom of God!
Luk 18:25 For it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
Luk 16:13 No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon."
Luk 16:14 The Pharisees, who were lovers of money, heard all this, and they scoffed at him.
1Jo 2:15 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If any one loves the world, love for the Father is not in him.
(All verses from the RSV)
Of course, this interferes with the lifestyle of the holy (barf) and famous (they wish).
WW, so you were watching the craiggers party video, too?
OMG, how we so worshipped them and thought they were right for insisting to sit in the best seats, go first in all the lines, ordering the nicestest suites, demanding special treatment. :( We fed those monstrous egos and so many still don't know how they devoured Mrs. W's house.
Reminds me of eating borsch and watching the head table having something much better. At times I know I felt like Oliver, wanting to grab my plate, walk up and say "Please, sir, can I have what you're having?"
We barely had money left over to buy a package of K-Ma*t underwear for ourselves because of 15% ABS and seminars and countless weekend trips to Gunnison to work on the property or sit in a meeting (a six hour drive in our big van, not to mention going over the continental-freakin'-divide). But to make himself look good in Vic's eyes, the limb leader decided we all needed to present the doc with a rhinestone suit.
Speaking of Head Table food, I wondered why they got regular salt and pepper while the rest of us only had sea salt, kelp and cayenne pepper. I was told it was Donna M who instigated those items for the staff. I used to hate using cayenne as regular pepper. There's a difference between. And kelp! GAK! That $h*t was disgusting!!
They didn't serve that when I was on Staff. They did serve fresh fruit and yogurt along with a piece of ginger bread cake for SUPPER though. That was really rough for the men who worked hard jobs. That was CRAP as a matter of fact.
Whew, that would have been awfull to work all day and then have nothing to enjoy for supper.....
There was no taking into account some one working a hard job burned a heck of a lot more calories than someone sitting inside some climate controlled office at a desk.....
I suppose that there was a full evening of activities afterwards making it impossible to sneak away for something more substantial?
I got volunteered in Food Services quite a few times when I was on Staff. It used to nauseate me when they would pick out the BEST for the head tables. Why did it require someone to pick through the food to be sure to get the "most abundant" portions and best looking items for the head table? Wasn't it all supposed to be the BEST? Afterall, twi does everything the BEST, right........ROFLMAO!!!
Your talking about HQ? I am talking Emporia.
Yes I was at HQ.
I suppose that there was a full evening of activities afterwards making it impossible to sneak away for something more substantial?
Yeah, it was called MORE work! That when we worked A LOT of hours.
No reason to "sneak" away to try to find food... We had no money to spend on anything "extra". Oh, once in a while we might have a 50 cents or a dollor to buy popcorn, maybe even a burger after the SNS. But for the most part, dinner (supper) was IT. It was a mixed "blessing" to be asked to sit at the head table; you may get reamed for some idiot thing, or you had to do a good job pretending to be into the after-meal sermon, whatever. At least the head table was served more family style (take all you want). It did kinda suck to be a larger male, especially if you did hard work (shovelling rocks, picking up bricks, wire brushing the outside of buildings to remove the stains, etc...
Love without partiality. Yeah, leadership was real concerned about that ...
It did kinda suck to be a larger male, especially if you did hard work (shovelling rocks, picking up bricks, wire brushing the outside of buildings to remove the stains, etc...
Dana Kiing used to buy a tub of peanut butter with his $20 ... of course some managed to go out drinking on $20/month ... hmmmm .... maybe Pat was buying, or did the Bedard's supply booze at their apartment? I was never part of the in crowd I guess, so missed that shiit ... I was busy getting my aerobic points ... I caught up on the drinking later though :
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Ya!!!!
What about your HIGHNESSES' $150 hightops he wore???
He seemed to have a different pair for every day of the week!!
don't get me started!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I had some LC's in TN that liked to live larger than I could have imagined...
They wore designer labels all the time and their house looked like something from a Better Homes spread. Even their kids had labels that I couldn't dream of affording even if I found them second hand at a Goodwill store. The kids were enrolled in all sorts of yuppie kid classes.
They bought a pure bred dog - a bishon fraize, I believe it was, for big $$$ - more than I had paid for my last car! - Then, when they decided they couldn't house train the dog (it was a nasty little dog - eeewww!) - They gave it away.
Mrs. LC was always getting facials, messages, and other spa treatments I could only dream of (and never experienced.) Then, they belonged to a Fitness Club - not a gym - but a club - pool, weights, classes, etc. - you know, more $$$.
But the thing that really made me go "hmmmm!" was when all of a sudden... Mr. LC, who was a good looking man without hair, shows up with a designer rug (toupee! hair piece! road kill!) on his head... I tried not to stare, but it was soooo weird. Come to find out it was a Hair Club for Men special. More $$$$....
They spent more on amenities in a month than my hubby and I brought home in pay! I really started resenting them for their spending habits - the rest of us were living on the edge, no healthcare, POS cars, etc., but they had the biggest, newest, and best of whatever. And we were FUNDING it! (Not to mention they had the TIME to do these things - we were working 40 hours a week, doing stuff for the ministry another 20 hours at least - what was left?)
So, don't forget your money for the ABS, coffee, and the phone hook-up.... ya hear?!
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Yes,They were really great stewards of Gods money......
Several years ago,Now a big hotshot in twi,A mark wall!!e,bought a couple of us lunch at mickie dees,
his comment at the time was twi does not care how we spend the money as long as we send in an expense report.I wanted to say ,well buy me a better car.
That used to ge my gander,I live in michigan,It is a penusula,one way up one way down,Well our advances were always up north,no big deal for leadership brand new car,cruise control if they get a ticket,abs pays for it.The rest of us in our pos cars with quadzillion miles on them.
Hell with the fleet twi had ,they could have given us thier old ones....
The leadership would come up here to our little houses,could not afford anything better,after all must abs..
and they would critize our little houses or cars,telling us we were not believing bigger...
Then it was adapted to well it is a need for (leadership) to have the best...
One time Lcm was all dressed up..He looked like sherlock freaking holmes!!! the money that must have cost was ridiculous....
yet i got reamed for buying a used s-10 with 153000 miles on it cause i took out a loan...
Bitter no,But dammit God 1rst provides for us,then the church not a bunch of lazy good for nothings who will
not do anything,and why should they? It is already in thier hands need a car? ok.Need a vacation? well that is outreach.Need some new clothes?
Point is they twi was never held accouunable,when they were the person was kicked out...
Vee pee,loy rosey, it is still the same,They are or were royalty they deserved the best,God forbid if they ever got in the valley of human need,the excuse oh,someone could harm me as after alll,I have such a great knowledge of the word.
Hell tell that to Peter or paul and of of course jesus.....
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Absolutely obscene!...
...It was the lavish ego and lifestyle of Veepee who set the standard for self indulgence...I recall the motorcycles, jets, buses, clothing, etc etc etc...
...Gee, I wonder why the lavish lifestyle of Veepee wasn't tossed out as "old wine skins" along with his teachings. <_<
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I think that we all deserve the best! but TWI leadership really get nuts! Locos de remate!
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(All verses from the RSV)
Of course, this interferes with the lifestyle of the holy (barf) and famous (they wish).
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Belle
Heck, they don't even obey verse 20!
And people still want to trust them with their spiritual lives.... :blink:
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Luke 20:45-47 (KJV)
"Then in the audience of all the people he said unto his disciples,
'Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes,
and love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the
synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts;
which devour widows' houses, and for a show make long
prayers: the same shall receive greater judgement.' "
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WW, so you were watching the craiggers party video, too?
OMG, how we so worshipped them and thought they were right for insisting to sit in the best seats, go first in all the lines, ordering the nicestest suites, demanding special treatment. :( We fed those monstrous egos and so many still don't know how they devoured Mrs. W's house.
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excathedra
all that material comfort while we did without...
all that obedience and worship... makes my skins crawl...
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Reminds me of eating borsch and watching the head table having something much better. At times I know I felt like Oliver, wanting to grab my plate, walk up and say "Please, sir, can I have what you're having?"
Oh, yeah, we were in training-I forgot.
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The rhinestone suit for VP's visit to Gunnison.
We barely had money left over to buy a package of K-Ma*t underwear for ourselves because of 15% ABS and seminars and countless weekend trips to Gunnison to work on the property or sit in a meeting (a six hour drive in our big van, not to mention going over the continental-freakin'-divide). But to make himself look good in Vic's eyes, the limb leader decided we all needed to present the doc with a rhinestone suit.
In that instance, I was not a cheerful giver.
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Speaking of Head Table food, I wondered why they got regular salt and pepper while the rest of us only had sea salt, kelp and cayenne pepper. I was told it was Donna M who instigated those items for the staff. I used to hate using cayenne as regular pepper. There's a difference between. And kelp! GAK! That $h*t was disgusting!!
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LMAO
How about frozen fruit for breakfast when it was -20 degrees
How the eff were you supposed to stay in fellowship?
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They didn't serve that when I was on Staff. They did serve fresh fruit and yogurt along with a piece of ginger bread cake for SUPPER though. That was really rough for the men who worked hard jobs. That was CRAP as a matter of fact.
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Your talking about HQ? I am talking Emporia.
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Whew, that would have been awfull to work all day and then have nothing to enjoy for supper.....
There was no taking into account some one working a hard job burned a heck of a lot more calories than someone sitting inside some climate controlled office at a desk.....
I suppose that there was a full evening of activities afterwards making it impossible to sneak away for something more substantial?
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Nottawayfer
I got volunteered in Food Services quite a few times when I was on Staff. It used to nauseate me when they would pick out the BEST for the head tables. Why did it require someone to pick through the food to be sure to get the "most abundant" portions and best looking items for the head table? Wasn't it all supposed to be the BEST? Afterall, twi does everything the BEST, right........ROFLMAO!!!
Yes I was at HQ.
Yeah, it was called MORE work! That when we worked A LOT of hours.
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No reason to "sneak" away to try to find food... We had no money to spend on anything "extra". Oh, once in a while we might have a 50 cents or a dollor to buy popcorn, maybe even a burger after the SNS. But for the most part, dinner (supper) was IT. It was a mixed "blessing" to be asked to sit at the head table; you may get reamed for some idiot thing, or you had to do a good job pretending to be into the after-meal sermon, whatever. At least the head table was served more family style (take all you want). It did kinda suck to be a larger male, especially if you did hard work (shovelling rocks, picking up bricks, wire brushing the outside of buildings to remove the stains, etc...
Love without partiality. Yeah, leadership was real concerned about that ...
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Dana Kiing used to buy a tub of peanut butter with his $20 ... of course some managed to go out drinking on $20/month ... hmmmm .... maybe Pat was buying, or did the Bedard's supply booze at their apartment? I was never part of the in crowd I guess, so missed that shiit ... I was busy getting my aerobic points
... I caught up on the drinking later though : 
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Rise up o man of God, have done with "LESSER THINGS"...............
Give heart and soul and mind and stregnth,
to serve the One True God.
Lift HIGH the Word of God,
Tread where his feet have trod,
As brothers of the son of God, rise up of men of God....................
We had to sing this constantly before HE came out to teach....
I guess he thought it said
"Dressier things".
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excathedra
have done with lesser things !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
what has the word cost YOU ?
what has it cost you, you jerk ?
when they sold emporia, did they advertise it as "we have the cleanest buildings in town...." what a frikkin jokeexcuse me i must go outside with a toothbrush and wash my house
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excathedra
has anyone saved the list(s) of what you had to have in your house (or campus) when the mog was visiting ? you know the little bottles of 7 up etc. ?
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jardinero
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Excie, you're too much!
J.
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