Times indeed have changed, haven't they? That kind of political incorrectness would not get published these days. Very interesting, Ron. Thanks for sharing it!
Times indeed have changed, haven't they? That kind of political incorrectness would not get published these days.
With that vacuous judgement about "If they are inclined to be effeminate, they will unconsciously jerk back on the handle and spin the tomahawk instead of slamming it right square at the target.", well yeah, crap like that wouldn't be tolerated. Has anyone here ever thought about why that statement should be true? Hasn't it ever occured to anyone to challenge the validity of that line of thinking? Or is that 'effeminate' too?
And what has hard-core patriotism have to do with how one throws an axe? Just as long as the axe hits its target?
Puzzling, very puzzling indeed.
Kit,
I don't think that the banning gays and atheists Boy Scouts from participating is exactly 'standing up to the rigors of defending their beliefs', do you?
Yeah, and I can't get into the NAACP (wrong color), the local country club (not enough money) or enter the Miss Hispanic America beauty pageant (wrong country of origin) either, but you don't hear people whining about that. ;)
I suspect that the observation was made by many and after much experience. Frequently those older books where being PC is not an issue were bang-on in their deductions.
Ron, have the techniques for skinning, tanning and all that other stuff changed much since the book was published? I'd think there may be more "chemicals" to make the process easier, but that the original techniques taught in that book are still the best today.
Ron, have the techniques for skinning, tanning and all that other stuff changed much since the book was published? I'd think there may be more "chemicals" to make the process easier, but that the original techniques taught in that book are still the best today.
The methods have pretty much remained the same over the years. Some things can't be improved upon. When I do a hide, I prefer the brain tanning method. It's one of the oldest and gives the best results. Andrew and I have done a few rabbit furs and I've done some buckskins. Our Scout troop is going to do a buckskin and mount it on a wood frame to sew award patches on for display.
Our troop will also start making all our own rope and other needs.
"When the animals life is taken it gives you a complete tanning package as a bonus. Every critter has enough brains to tan it's own hide, except buffaloes (and some people I know)"
Shellon, ...................... your right ......... there might be just one or two out there without the brains to tan their own hides ............. LOL.
Ron ......... Dude you are awesome. I would love to get a copy of this book for other reasons than just how to learn to throw a tomahawk.............. I would love to see how I could or if I can interlink it with some of my research of past civilizations and there ways of life.
I have found that even the boyscout book I have of early 70s era is still utilizing very ancient techniques in the wilderness that have been found to be tried and true.
Tanning hides is true ............. each animal does have the necessary brain material to tan its hide and if you feel that you need more material you can get it strait from the gut of the beast. Tried and true this is. White leather can be naturally made by soaking it in stale urine after the hide has been dehaired and tanned ....... by the way that would be stale urine from a man not a woman. White leather would have been considered a very valuable piece of artwork, worn only for the best of occassions in mans ancient history, because it actually took more work than just utilizing the urine, also chalky tallow mixture is used. Red ochre was often used to make hides red and red was considered a spiritual color but white held an essence of awe in its own right expecially for the maker of such a garment.
I don't know what to say about the throwing of the tomahawk except that I put no spin when aiming for my mark.
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I especially like the line..."teach the boy construction and he will not be guilty of destruction. Very well put.
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Times indeed have changed, haven't they? That kind of political incorrectness would not get published these days. Very interesting, Ron. Thanks for sharing it!
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We've got some great Boy Scouts here in Reno (Reno United Way recognizes Boy Scouts and we can donate to them with our United Way donation).
Maybe I wouldn't appreciate the Boy Scouts so if I hadn't seen them stand up to the rigors of defending their beliefs.
Glad they are still going strong,
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With that vacuous judgement about "If they are inclined to be effeminate, they will unconsciously jerk back on the handle and spin the tomahawk instead of slamming it right square at the target.", well yeah, crap like that wouldn't be tolerated. Has anyone here ever thought about why that statement should be true? Hasn't it ever occured to anyone to challenge the validity of that line of thinking? Or is that 'effeminate' too?
And what has hard-core patriotism have to do with how one throws an axe? Just as long as the axe hits its target?
Puzzling, very puzzling indeed.
Kit,
I don't think that the banning gays and atheists Boy Scouts from participating is exactly 'standing up to the rigors of defending their beliefs', do you?
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Garth,
If you don't approve of Scouts, then don't join them.
They have long held the requirement that in order to be one, one must believe in a supreme being. Why should they be denied that right?
Where's your tolerance?
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Garth,
Yes. I believe that groups should have a right to associate with and accept into their organization who they want.
Kit
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So I'm the intolerant one for being against their intolerance? :huh: Hhmmm.
I still see no connection between how one throws an axe and their (supposed) 'effeminacy' or of their patriotism.
Must be because of my 'intolerence'. <_<
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Yeah, and I can't get into the NAACP (wrong color), the local country club (not enough money) or enter the Miss Hispanic America beauty pageant (wrong country of origin) either, but you don't hear people whining about that. ;)
I suspect that the observation was made by many and after much experience. Frequently those older books where being PC is not an issue were bang-on in their deductions.
Ron, have the techniques for skinning, tanning and all that other stuff changed much since the book was published? I'd think there may be more "chemicals" to make the process easier, but that the original techniques taught in that book are still the best today.
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It was a statement letting others know who to molest and or pick on. Duh! :)
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Belle asks...
The methods have pretty much remained the same over the years. Some things can't be improved upon. When I do a hide, I prefer the brain tanning method. It's one of the oldest and gives the best results. Andrew and I have done a few rabbit furs and I've done some buckskins. Our Scout troop is going to do a buckskin and mount it on a wood frame to sew award patches on for display.
Our troop will also start making all our own rope and other needs.
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"When the animals life is taken it gives you a complete tanning package as a bonus. Every critter has enough brains to tan it's own hide, except buffaloes (and some people I know)"
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Quote- "Our troop will also start making all our own rope and other needs."
I hope you won't use the rope to hang those "sissy and lady-like" hatchet throwers.
~HAP
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Shellon, ...................... your right ......... there might be just one or two out there without the brains to tan their own hides ............. LOL.
Ron ......... Dude you are awesome. I would love to get a copy of this book for other reasons than just how to learn to throw a tomahawk.............. I would love to see how I could or if I can interlink it with some of my research of past civilizations and there ways of life.
I have found that even the boyscout book I have of early 70s era is still utilizing very ancient techniques in the wilderness that have been found to be tried and true.
Tanning hides is true ............. each animal does have the necessary brain material to tan its hide and if you feel that you need more material you can get it strait from the gut of the beast. Tried and true this is. White leather can be naturally made by soaking it in stale urine after the hide has been dehaired and tanned ....... by the way that would be stale urine from a man not a woman. White leather would have been considered a very valuable piece of artwork, worn only for the best of occassions in mans ancient history, because it actually took more work than just utilizing the urine, also chalky tallow mixture is used. Red ochre was often used to make hides red and red was considered a spiritual color but white held an essence of awe in its own right expecially for the maker of such a garment.
I don't know what to say about the throwing of the tomahawk except that I put no spin when aiming for my mark.
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