When not interfered with by outside influences, everything nature does is done with perfection. Yet my son, Shay, cannot learn things as other children do. He cannot understand things as other children do. Where is the natural order of things in my son?
I believe this to be a completely false statement and anyone with more knowledge is certainly incouraged to correct me if my assumptions are wrong.
To begin with what is an outside influence? Is it anything that disrupts the way things normally occur? Is a tree parasite for instance, an outside influence, or is it natures way of destoying a certain type of tree, in order to develop another? Or clear a forest for some other use? When nature makes a mistake it is corrected through selection. The only way a change in nature can get past selection is by adaptation. Those who can not adapt die. Therefore nature is always evolving into what is strongest, so there is no perfection, only change. There is no will or thought involved, only the strongest surviving.
If man is only defined as the outside influence, he can and has elected to alter the course of nature, in some seemly good ways, and in some not so seemly good. In the case of this young boy, a good outcome, because society and his parents have intervened to allow him to live. If he were on his own his chances of survival would be slim. Man has also changed nature is some poor ways.
To me there are always outside influences present. The only question is are they stronger than the norm. If the norm is stronger, things go on as usual. If the outside influences prevail there will be change. Again nothing is perfect only surviving.
I think I know what you're getting at! You're talking about decent people behaving decently in a nurturing society. I think "in a perfect world" most of us would like to see the same kind of behavior all over every day.
But the world isn't perfect. One day a coach could have bad heartburn because he bolted his lunch and he doesn't act "normally" because he's got a belly ache. Not that that's an excuse, that's just how life is sometimes.
In the case you wrote about, everybody made the "right" choice all the way through and Shay was proud and happy and everyone learned what "good" is.
But not everyone has the same definition of "good" and even if we did, there are times when for whatever reason, we just don't do whatever it is that would be "good". Sometimes I think "good" is a fantasy, really.
On the other hand, when that one time in a thousand happens that's really "good" drink in all the sweetness of it all so you'll have the memories to cherish.There's a rather trite saying "God gave is memories so we could have roses in December".
If you really want to know what I would have chosen, I can't give you an answer because I can't see myself in the situation so I don't know how I would have fit in.
If you're asking me whether I'd pass the email on, I don't know that either. When these things come in my email, sometimes I don't read them because I know who sent them and we disagree so much, I don't want to go thee. Mostly I read them, and if they strike a chord with me I may pass it on to a few friends. But I never pass these things on to a certain select group because I try to allow for people's differences and I have the time to invest in thinking about it.
Well -- that was a bigger ramble than I intended and I don't think you got an answer anyway......
Sami (she'e one hot mama!) and I wishI could hold her.Any way that you for that story. It makes me think there still a chance for us humans, to be caring persons.
And I hope you are happy! You've made me leak all over the place. And not in the way a baby leaks. just mean i'm crying. love tcat
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Galen
hmm, every hurricane?
every earthquake?
every rain storm?
every drought?
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Awwww, Sami, this was also posted earlier this week: LG & Sudo's stories
You might enjoy the discussions that we had regarding your story and LG's which is also heartwarming.
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Galen,
Absolutely! Perfection doesn't mean good or positive. Perfection is not without loss...necessarily
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is that why wife calls me the perfect foot h.....l lol
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I believe this to be a completely false statement and anyone with more knowledge is certainly incouraged to correct me if my assumptions are wrong.
To begin with what is an outside influence? Is it anything that disrupts the way things normally occur? Is a tree parasite for instance, an outside influence, or is it natures way of destoying a certain type of tree, in order to develop another? Or clear a forest for some other use? When nature makes a mistake it is corrected through selection. The only way a change in nature can get past selection is by adaptation. Those who can not adapt die. Therefore nature is always evolving into what is strongest, so there is no perfection, only change. There is no will or thought involved, only the strongest surviving.
If man is only defined as the outside influence, he can and has elected to alter the course of nature, in some seemly good ways, and in some not so seemly good. In the case of this young boy, a good outcome, because society and his parents have intervened to allow him to live. If he were on his own his chances of survival would be slim. Man has also changed nature is some poor ways.
To me there are always outside influences present. The only question is are they stronger than the norm. If the norm is stronger, things go on as usual. If the outside influences prevail there will be change. Again nothing is perfect only surviving.
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I think I know what you're getting at! You're talking about decent people behaving decently in a nurturing society. I think "in a perfect world" most of us would like to see the same kind of behavior all over every day.
But the world isn't perfect. One day a coach could have bad heartburn because he bolted his lunch and he doesn't act "normally" because he's got a belly ache. Not that that's an excuse, that's just how life is sometimes.
In the case you wrote about, everybody made the "right" choice all the way through and Shay was proud and happy and everyone learned what "good" is.
But not everyone has the same definition of "good" and even if we did, there are times when for whatever reason, we just don't do whatever it is that would be "good". Sometimes I think "good" is a fantasy, really.
On the other hand, when that one time in a thousand happens that's really "good" drink in all the sweetness of it all so you'll have the memories to cherish.There's a rather trite saying "God gave is memories so we could have roses in December".
If you really want to know what I would have chosen, I can't give you an answer because I can't see myself in the situation so I don't know how I would have fit in.
If you're asking me whether I'd pass the email on, I don't know that either. When these things come in my email, sometimes I don't read them because I know who sent them and we disagree so much, I don't want to go thee. Mostly I read them, and if they strike a chord with me I may pass it on to a few friends. But I never pass these things on to a certain select group because I try to allow for people's differences and I have the time to invest in thinking about it.
Well -- that was a bigger ramble than I intended and I don't think you got an answer anyway......
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Sami (she'e one hot mama!) and I wishI could hold her.Any way that you for that story. It makes me think there still a chance for us humans, to be caring persons.
And I hope you are happy! You've made me leak all over the place. And not in the way a baby leaks. just mean i'm crying. love tcat
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