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What is death?

Beloved all

God loves you all. If I ask you what is death I would get many guesses because if you are reading this you are alive and well.

Now all of us have feel the pain of seeing a love one die. And some have feel the pain of being the one to find their love one dead.

Now God tells us death does not have to be the end but that mankind must die. And its said there are many kinds of death.

Adam die spiritual and then fleshly but none of us can say we die spiritually because we were born spiritual dead and if your reading this you have not die naturally yet.

Now Christ came so that dead spirit could be made alive but all things must grow from seeds.

Now we can talk about a death not all will know because be born spiritually a live birth but other will be born a death birth.

But I ask you what is death to you?

Thanks

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

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As you say, it's all speculation, since we're discussing someplace we haven't been yet...but, these days I am leaning toward the belief that we are spiritual beings having a human experience, infinite souls/spirits in temporary bodies...so death is the end of this physical body, but perhaps just a transition to another dimension of continuing spiritual life.

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i read stories about one of my first deaths

saw it on discovery channel

i was swimming as a school of single minded soldiers

towards some singing object just over every horizon

the first of us to see its glow, dove right in and starting digging

i remember reaching the brightest layer

and thought that i had won the prize

and that i had reached my peak

one of those moments when time stood still...and i bit

...but...one taste, then something reached out of the ground itself and grabbed me by tongue, snapped my neck and completely sucked me in and unzipped me, dead as fish bones, scattered like letters etched in the cemetary of headstones...

(it wasnt til later that i found out how much older she was than me...)

anyway, from there, it got really crazy really fast

i thought i was dead, but what really happened was

me and this new world went through this roller coaster ride of a metamorphosis

which seemed to take an eternity compared to the first death

we went through these stages like some mythical mutant creature

but then things slowed down and we lost track of each other

then came this laughter and love from beyond

and sounds of angels singing through some veil

glowing red warmth at times coming right through the wall

i had finally really arrived this time

but this world kept getting smaller and smaller

things seemed to change less and less

things get tighter and tighter

still no questions answered

until one day

kerplunk

woosh

a flood

tremors

screaming

an earthquake

all my angels were crying

then out comes this knife and chops me off...

i was screaming bloody murder.....

and then i feel asleep

and it got better and worse from there

ya see?

i fell for it again

lol

and kinda funny too

because this birth seems like its taking an eternity compared to that last one, too

oops...i mean death

or...um

:blink:

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I've wondered these past few years...if the Infinite God had a back-up "hard-drive" for each time this universe crashed. And...would we notice this while he "re-booted" us?

Perhaps we've died many times in this life and had not known it.

Maybe even in some parallel system somewhere, - an old "hard-drive" -there was a magnetic shift in the poles which wiped out our memories...leaving our old counterparts drooling and wandering about that world aimlessly.

Danny

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Death.

You want to know what death is? Ask a child who's lost a parent to death.

Ask a man or women who's spouse,partner,lover,companion,friend is now dead.

Ask a parent who has buried one of their babies.

Ask a doctor or nurse that has done everything they can and the patient still dies.

Ask a cop who has come upon a scene to find the victim dead.

Ask an adult child who has cared for his/her parent until death.

2027 Maybe I don't understand your thread, or the point of it. Doctinal, so you must be generating discussion from what a Bible somewhere or a person says, is that it?

When breath life ends.

That's death. Managing without the deceased, that's living with death.

Tell me what is life?

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Well.. death is.. change. Big change perhaps. Some of the changes in my life I have described as "death", in one way or another..

Interesting though..

Not that I subscribe to it.. or would go for it.. but I think the Tarot "death" card does not exactly signify death, in their belief, but change.. big change.

I know, I know, that's not the bible! :D

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Beloved spiritual sister Shellon Fockler-North

God loves you

I not sure why I wrote it but maybe talking about it will help some one

For I lost my Mom this year and miss her very must

But after talking with God about it I can go on with my life

I guess I just heard God say write a post on death so I did

thank you my friend

with spiritual love and a holy kiss of Christ blowing your way Roy

Beloved Mr. Hammeroni

God loves you

Yes not the bible but I loved it "but I think the Tarot "death" card does not exactly signify death, in their belief, but change.. big change."

yes death is a change as we believers reach for the change from natural body to spiritual body one like Christ

thanks

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Beloved all

God loves you all

Here something I found about death

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The day I've died, my pall is moving on -

But do not think my heart is still on earth!

Don't weep and pity me: "Oh woe, how awful!"

You fall in devil's snare - woe, that is awful!

Don't cry "Woe, parted!" at my burial -

For me this is the time of joyful meeting!

Don't say "Farewell!" when I'm put in the grave -

A curtain is it for eternal bliss.

You saw "descending" - now look at the rising!

Is setting dangerous for sun and moon?

To you it looks like setting, but it's rising;

The coffin seems a jail, yet it means freedom.

Which seed fell in the earth that did not grow there?

Why do you doubt the fate of human seed?

What bucket came not filled from out the cistern?

Why should the Yusaf "Soul" then fear this well?

Close here your mouth and open it on that side.

So that your hymns may sound in Where- no-place!

Schimmel, Annemarie. Look! This Is Love: Poems of Rumi.

Boston, Mass.: Shambhala Publications, 1991.

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thanks

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

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and hardly noone thinks that Sirg's Spiritual Dialog Sessions will help?

some of you are missing out....

here it is in the face

what we hate

the enemy

the hurt of the living

and it hurts me to know that i'll be dead one day

my kids will remember me

their kids i hope

and of course my wife will

yeah what did God accomplish

with His Son anyway?

Is it just a story to tell ourselves?

Or is there really something to it.

Where are the dead really huh?

According to the truth it's supposed to be a comfort to know.

the Truth....who dares to discover it..to see it

in Christ

with Jesus

i didn't write those words

but there they are in thessolonians plain as day

to hear the trumpet

the voice of the angel

how

quiet

it

is

to

hear

it

and this present heaven and earth melts away for the dead

into a new heaven amd earth.................

the gathering....

"i beseech you by our gathering together unto him"

thessolonians again

what's he talking about?

was it something there then

something real?

something they knew

something they saw

is God really love.....

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Yes I love were the bible teaches us about death

i know may have meant this well but i'm actually talking about life

the gathering together as mentioned in thessalonians was experienced then

and can be now, it's a misunderstanding of the concept

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Beloved Clay or CM

God loves you

Yes this talking about life but life after death

So one may say is talking about death but yes its more about life after death

Look the dead in Christ rise or rose first

from dead with hope to life with out end

from dying to living

from alive with Christ to up there with Christ

Yes I understood and I could of wrote it better but I did not

I could of said I like when the bible teaches us about death to life never ending

I hope you understand sorry

thanks

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

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Beloved Clay or CM

God loves you

No that is easy

At the time of the last trump to us or Christ we go were the 12 apostels or 11 depending what you believe saw Jesus Christ go

In the air the be with Christ and God

Some may call this heaven but I call it spiritual heaven

But it does not matter what you call it at the return of Christ for each person whether yesterday, today or in the furture

depending on your believe the last trump is

But for me the last trump is our last fleshly breath whether it has come and gone for some or its still coming

Look if this earth gets destroy by fire then all breaths left will stop at the same time

But if the world is not completly destroy then the end as not come yet

Because the ship to save a few was grown years ago and its name is Jesus the Christ or the Christ in us

thanks

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

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if it's thought of as an individual experience

it can be seen in a different light

not death but the coming (not return) of the Lord

the Lord does not need to return, he is already here now

anyways death of this mortal body hurts those who are still living for sure and it sucks,

but to really see what it is and what God has prepared for them is comforting

from your writing you have two Christs-one here and one "up there"

it's closer then you may think

love always

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Beloved Clay or CM

God loves you

No I have only one but Christ has changed to be like God so Christ's seed is in me and many others while sitting on the right hand of God

God is everywhere and Christ is everywhere

Yes we can have differ views of the same things

The coming of Christ for us is just Christ leading us into our new birth to change to be in the form of Christ who is in the form of God

The stage of growth

From seed, to growing seed, to birth, to baby, to child, to teen, to of age, to of middle age, to old age, and to death

some of the fleshly stages but lets break it down

From seed, to birth, to person, and to death

but lets add spiritual seed

To fleshly seed that is planted in his or her fleshly mother with the mother watering him or her. to a person out side his or her fleshly mother, seed of Christ in his or her heart planted in the heart water by the word of God, then fleshly death which leads to spiritual birth

but for some its fleshly death to spiritual death

hope this blesses you

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

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1 Peter 1:22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: 23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

that word of god that was heard and decided upon to believe because it was right there in plain sight

it is done-see revelations

not to say that more is not down the road

but we do not have to wait till death to get plenty of heaven now

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Interesting, men. Thanks!

If the body returns to dust, the breath life back into the air and the spirit to God for safe keeping, then considering that, DOES shed a different light on what Thessalonians says, does it not? At least that's what I *think* I'm reading here.

If the spirit goes back to God for safe keeping, it's not exactly in a coma-like state, is it? And if not, then it would be awfully sad to think that our loved ones die, God has their spirit which is still alive and vital, and that the spirit of our loved ones don't think twice about those of us left behind..... Does that make sense?

I dunno.....

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Beloved Clay or CM

God loves you my friend

you wrote

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1 Peter 1:22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: 23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

that word of god that was heard and decided upon to believe because it was right there in plain sight

it is done-see revelations

not to say that more is not down the road

but we do not have to wait till death to get plenty of heaven now

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I not sure but here what I feel God is telling me to look at who is the book talking to

The people alive then when Jesus the Christ went up in the air winning over death

I just have not look yet but even if I did look not sure I could know when wrote and to which age of people

But Let me write what I see maybe it will help maybe not

I believe when Jesus the Christ took his last breath in the fleshly that gave him the right to recreated spiritual alive seed in Adam upward

So for that day forward all people are born with the seed of Christ or the image of Christ in them

But for this seed to grow it must be in good dirt and receive water --The good dirt is a good heart and water is the word of God and the seed is the image of Christ in us --the seed of Christ --- the Christ in us

But the OT believers that were born in darkness with dead spirits were reborn or recreated with a living spirit and all that had a good heart and water that which could not be in them yet were changed after Christ die and rose

For Christ lead them into changed because they must be the dead in Christ

But the word of God talking about us as alive with Christ in us because we live in the flesh with Christ in us

we were quickened made alive

and here a veres to look at too

1 Cor 15:36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

Eph 2:2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins:

So for me we are born from the fleshly seed of our mom and dad with the seed of Christ in us and if the seed gets water and a good dirt to get it warm it grows to break out the egg of the body

it will break out of that fleshly body into a being like Christ and God

For I do not believe anybody with Christ in them could be called dead in Christ but I believe they are changed into immortality bodies from mortal bodies and not from corruptible ones

Look at Rom 2:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

we seek for immortality bodies not incorruptible bodies

1 Tim 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

2 Tim 1:10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

Eph 6:24 Grace be with all them that love our Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity. Amen.

the word sincerity is the word immortality but so are all the words incorruptible

So is it a poor translation I do not know but what believe the is know by the writer and who they are talking to and when

but this just me

I will pray about it more and maybe you can pray about it too

thanks

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

Beloved Belle

God loves you

Yes that makes good sense

Now I think the word trump is word we do not understand

Is it a horn blown by an Angel or is it just Christ last Fleshly breath for the OT people and for us our last Fleshly breath

The Way taught us the dead are dead but is that true for all or was it once true until Jesus the Christ fix the image or spirit by healing it

If Christ can rise Flesh from death why not spirit from death after he went to the father

What If the Moses they saw was really Moses

but this is just me

with love and a holy kiss blowing your way Roy

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yep, Belle sounds like your onto something there. especially when you see man and woman as a whole person-spirit and soul. so soon enough we will shed this mortal body and immoratality will be what there is. Christ is so big i think he can handle us all pretty welll

year-

there are lots of places it talks about being alive in Christ

yeah that carnal man must die to see it

but physical death doesn't seem to be a requirement

why is it considered to be unattainable now?

perhaps it seems too big

or that we couldn't handle it

but God knows us

ps-i think Moses was really Moses

But the OT believers that were born in darkness with dead spirits were reborn or recreated with a living spirit and all that had a good heart and water that which could not be in them yet were changed after Christ die and rose

i think there is a great misunderstanding here

Christ did not die-Jesus did

Christ has been around since the beginning

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