i have never dowsed water but i believe it can be done
i worked for the phone co for years and was able to take 2 copper #10 ground wire bend it in the shape of a pistol and hold then out straight in front of me and walk where we suspected there was underground cable.
when i came accross it the coper would spread out horizonaly. and the cable would be there every time.
I think that they ancients and indigenous or as Ron said 'the old timers" who all by necessity lived closer to the earth, knew a great deal more than we generally give them credit for just by generations of observation. There is a great deal that is yet undiscovered and taken for granted about how this whole universe works
Very well said, Mstar1! I agree 100%.
Emoto's work is fascinating! My little brother gave out copies of one of his books for Christmas presents last year.
Re-rail:
Mstar1, is it common for most artisans that you know to leave little treasures in their art, like you do? What kinds of other things do you know about?
This thread has quickly turned into a "witch" hunt, and that's really not what I had intended.
I was talking about keepers of the earth. Surely bridge builders, carpenters and stained glass church window restorers, in addition to the masons (which is an entirely different breed) are NOT the "witchy" types. ;)-->
Wacky -- right on. And if you need some help defending that position:
I can't understand why dowsing wouldn't have a logical, scientific basis.
When ol' Cliff did it, ne could not only determine the presence of oil, but the approximate depth and sulphur content using little vials of assorted grades of crude he had. He could also take small metal samples and determine what as well as where things were buried such as pipes, wires and other metal objects.
I don't know what was special about him, if anything. But then I don't know what's special about Michal Jordan that he can do what he does while others of similr height, weight and muscle development can't.
Some folks have it and some don't.
Since living here in the hills, I've learned to plant my crops, set my eggs and take care of other animals according to the phases of the moon. It's helped bring me good success, but then the tides are governed by the moon and that's an observed and documented scientific FACT. Why would the moon affect the ocean and not a potato?
Why would similar metals be attracted? Why would birch or willow or peach wood be attracted to water?
Why do tree roots seek underground water? They can't see, touch, taste, smell or hear it. At least not in ways we can understand or document.
I used to think that science and technology were the be all end all of human knowledge and the old folk ways were at best ignorant superstition and in some cases, witchcraft. Life was a lot harsher when I first came to the hills, but I was determined. Now, as I learn some of the old time ways and practice them, I've found life a lot easier and more comfortable.
Living in harmony with your surroundings is easier and much more fulfilling than constantly being at war with them and trying to subdue them.
Like the old Bob Dylan song, "I was so much older then, but I'm younger than that, now"
Other topic...
I've built on my property and helped others building on theirs. I/we always get a piece of PVC pipe, 6" diameter about a foot and a half long, fill it with trinkets, coins, letters, our names and other assorted stuff and cap it at both ends and place it somewhere in the structure...sealed in a wall or brickwork or something, and anytime something either falls down or is torn down, we always find something. It's a very old Ozark tradition.
In an old school building, the guys adding a wing, found a pint bottle of whiskey from 1910 along with some old coins, papers and some old tools.
It's always interesting to me to see old calculations, measure marks and plumb bob marks left by the builders in old buildings.
It kinda reminds us of the continuity from generation to generation of the building techniques and the people who used them.
the old folk ways, planting by the moon etc works! i don't know why but it does! it has nothing to do with debble sprits . i think dowesing and finding cable under the ground has to do with the make up in your body or something i don't know
Mstar1, is it common for most artisans that you know to leave little treasures in their art, like you do? What kinds of other things do you know about?
some do, in fact I would bet most do ---i have seen some great things in the upper reaches of cathedrals and churches left by the stonecarvers and craftsman that no one will ever see except another craftsman generations later, the gargoyle carvers and sculptors are almost always an eccentric, quirky and humorous lot, which tickles me, to see their personality shine through even though they may have been dead for hundreds of years. Some of it is humorous, some of it is serious, some things are combinations of both but almost all the stuff I deal with is rich and heavy in symbolism and a reflection of the people and culture of the times that they were built...that can be very rich once you learn to 'read' it. For good or bad art and craft, true art and craft, has an honesty and a genuineness to it that allows you to peer a little bit into the soul of the makers and share a slice of your humanity with them.
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i have never dowsed water but i believe it can be done
i worked for the phone co for years and was able to take 2 copper #10 ground wire bend it in the shape of a pistol and hold then out straight in front of me and walk where we suspected there was underground cable.
when i came accross it the coper would spread out horizonaly. and the cable would be there every time.
weird?
yes
but it worked.
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Very well said, Mstar1! I agree 100%.
Emoto's work is fascinating! My little brother gave out copies of one of his books for Christmas presents last year.
Re-rail:
Mstar1, is it common for most artisans that you know to leave little treasures in their art, like you do? What kinds of other things do you know about?
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Wacky -- right on. And if you need some help defending that position:
HERE COMES THE CAVALRY!
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I can't understand why dowsing wouldn't have a logical, scientific basis.
When ol' Cliff did it, ne could not only determine the presence of oil, but the approximate depth and sulphur content using little vials of assorted grades of crude he had. He could also take small metal samples and determine what as well as where things were buried such as pipes, wires and other metal objects.
I don't know what was special about him, if anything. But then I don't know what's special about Michal Jordan that he can do what he does while others of similr height, weight and muscle development can't.
Some folks have it and some don't.
Since living here in the hills, I've learned to plant my crops, set my eggs and take care of other animals according to the phases of the moon. It's helped bring me good success, but then the tides are governed by the moon and that's an observed and documented scientific FACT. Why would the moon affect the ocean and not a potato?
Why would similar metals be attracted? Why would birch or willow or peach wood be attracted to water?
Why do tree roots seek underground water? They can't see, touch, taste, smell or hear it. At least not in ways we can understand or document.
I used to think that science and technology were the be all end all of human knowledge and the old folk ways were at best ignorant superstition and in some cases, witchcraft. Life was a lot harsher when I first came to the hills, but I was determined. Now, as I learn some of the old time ways and practice them, I've found life a lot easier and more comfortable.
Living in harmony with your surroundings is easier and much more fulfilling than constantly being at war with them and trying to subdue them.
Like the old Bob Dylan song, "I was so much older then, but I'm younger than that, now"
Other topic...
I've built on my property and helped others building on theirs. I/we always get a piece of PVC pipe, 6" diameter about a foot and a half long, fill it with trinkets, coins, letters, our names and other assorted stuff and cap it at both ends and place it somewhere in the structure...sealed in a wall or brickwork or something, and anytime something either falls down or is torn down, we always find something. It's a very old Ozark tradition.
In an old school building, the guys adding a wing, found a pint bottle of whiskey from 1910 along with some old coins, papers and some old tools.
It's always interesting to me to see old calculations, measure marks and plumb bob marks left by the builders in old buildings.
It kinda reminds us of the continuity from generation to generation of the building techniques and the people who used them.
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the old folk ways, planting by the moon etc works! i don't know why but it does! it has nothing to do with debble sprits . i think dowesing and finding cable under the ground has to do with the make up in your body or something i don't know
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some do, in fact I would bet most do ---i have seen some great things in the upper reaches of cathedrals and churches left by the stonecarvers and craftsman that no one will ever see except another craftsman generations later, the gargoyle carvers and sculptors are almost always an eccentric, quirky and humorous lot, which tickles me, to see their personality shine through even though they may have been dead for hundreds of years. Some of it is humorous, some of it is serious, some things are combinations of both but almost all the stuff I deal with is rich and heavy in symbolism and a reflection of the people and culture of the times that they were built...that can be very rich once you learn to 'read' it. For good or bad art and craft, true art and craft, has an honesty and a genuineness to it that allows you to peer a little bit into the soul of the makers and share a slice of your humanity with them.
It all has treasures in it
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I remember hearing Martha Stewart say that when she bought her new farm...in one of the gardens, every rock she turned over had a face painted on it.
That would be way cool...
People are very creative!!!!
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Funster~~~
Just had to say high again!!!
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