15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Matthew 7:15-20 KJV
I've tasted the evil fruit...and I know what manner of men come out of PFAL indoctrination.
What positive work Dr did for many thousands DWARFS what any of you piled higher and deeper boys can ever do.
Paul counted his degree to be but dung so that he might know Christ.
Many, many more grads appreciate the accurate work Dr did to teach Christ to them than will ever post here in rejection of that work.
Have you seen what Catcup's husband posted here in total contradiction of your erronious assesment of Dr's degree? I can re-post it for you if your ability to learn didn't end with that parchment.
I reject your use of the word "many" AND I wonder with prejudice what worse fate those relatively women may have met if they had NOT learned about the True God from Dr.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew 7:22-23 KJV
No matter how anyone cuts it, if their fruit is rotten, their works are rotten...and even Jesus will have nothing to do with them.
That man did not know the ACCURACY of the scriptures in his heart. Maybe in his mouth, but they no longer impress me. NOT ONE leader did what Dr told them to do. NOT ONE mastered PFAL. Many can parrot KJV, but none mastered the English revelations Dr and his editors put into writing. Not even Dr.
Dr admitted he did not get the PFAL revelations into full operation in his life. He admitted this on tape at LV, then in print in the magazine, then he had it chiseled into stone.
Was Uriah's family thankful for David killing Uriah? I think NOT! But they could still feel thankful for the revelations God gave David before and after that fiasco IF they had a heart for God.
The ones who did not have a heart for God probably rejected God's revelations to David. That was their loss.
The Bible talks about these people a little. Did you know that? Are you willing to learn from the nobel example of a few of Uriah's relatives? Or do want to reject God and His revelations to the only man he could find who could and would carry out the mission?
I reject your use of the word "many" AND I wonder with prejudice what worse fate those relatively women may have met if they had NOT learned about the True God from Dr.
You suggest that these women might have met a worse fate had they not "learned about the True God from Dr."
A worse fate than suffering under the sweaty body of an old man in whom you had misplaced your trust and your honor?
You worship that man. Don't dare even pretend you can teach me the truth about anything.
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Catcup
Hamm:
"Catcup, you will never get through on a doctrinal level."
That's why I haven't even tried. It's not worth the effort.
Mike:
"Often I get the impression that when I make a point, the common response is NOT to look at the merits of my point"
There ARE no merits to your point.
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Mike,
Please stop referring to Wierwille as Dr. His degree is bogus...as are his teachings.
Shows a total disrespect for those of us who earned our advanced degrees.
Thank you
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This is ever so simple...but is made hard...
I've tasted the evil fruit...and I know what manner of men come out of PFAL indoctrination.
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TaylorCompany,
What positive work Dr did for many thousands DWARFS what any of you piled higher and deeper boys can ever do.
Paul counted his degree to be but dung so that he might know Christ.
Many, many more grads appreciate the accurate work Dr did to teach Christ to them than will ever post here in rejection of that work.
Have you seen what Catcup's husband posted here in total contradiction of your erronious assesment of Dr's degree? I can re-post it for you if your ability to learn didn't end with that parchment.
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Mike
CoolWaters,
It's PARTIAL-pfal endoctrination that you suffered from. NONE of the leaders who hurt yo had PFAL accurate. Not one.
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Catcup
So I guess to you, the ruin of many women's lives for the momentary pleasure of your idol just gets chalked up to what, a holy sacrifice?
Idolator.
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CoolWaters
Again I say, "I've tasted their fruit."
And their fruit is: Adultery; Fornication; Uncleanness; Lasciviousness; Idolatry; Witchcraft; Hatred; Variance; Emulations; Wrath; Strife; Seditions; Heresies; Envyings; Murders; Drunkenness; Revellings.
It is evil fruit.
I know them by their fruit.
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Catcup
The one who hurt my SISTER had it accurate, Mike.
That man understood the "heart" of PFAL even more accurately than YOU.
Why, he could run circles around you with scripture.
That man was your idol.
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Mike
Catcup,
I reject your use of the word "many" AND I wonder with prejudice what worse fate those relatively women may have met if they had NOT learned about the True God from Dr.
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Catcup
So it's better for them that they were sacrificed at the altar of your idol?
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No matter how anyone cuts it, if their fruit is rotten, their works are rotten...and even Jesus will have nothing to do with them.
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Mike
Catcup,
That man did not know the ACCURACY of the scriptures in his heart. Maybe in his mouth, but they no longer impress me. NOT ONE leader did what Dr told them to do. NOT ONE mastered PFAL. Many can parrot KJV, but none mastered the English revelations Dr and his editors put into writing. Not even Dr.
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Dr admitted he did not get the PFAL revelations into full operation in his life. He admitted this on tape at LV, then in print in the magazine, then he had it chiseled into stone.
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Catcup
I just cannot believe what you are suggesting.
I cannot fathom what you dare to suggest.
In other words, you suggest these women should be THANKFUL they were raped?
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Catcup,
Have you ever wondered about the relatives of Uriah? How did they feel about David? What was their proper Godly response to David killing Uriah?
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Yes, he could have been a better man, and he should have been a better man.
He admits right on his tombstone that
HE KNEW BETTER THAN TO DO WHAT HE DID.
Maya Angelou: "When you know better, you do better"
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Mike,
No, I don't wonder about the relatives of Uriah. The same rules do not apply.
We don't live in the Old Testament. ---Well, maybe YOU do, but the rest of us don't.
VP didn't live in the Old Testament either. He was NOT a KING.
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Mike
uThankful for raped?
Where on earth did yo get THAT from?
I've never said nor implied anything like that.
I don't think that way.
I think it's atragedy that any men of God sinned.
Was Uriah's family thankful for David killing Uriah? I think NOT! But they could still feel thankful for the revelations God gave David before and after that fiasco IF they had a heart for God.
The ones who did not have a heart for God probably rejected God's revelations to David. That was their loss.
The Bible talks about these people a little. Did you know that? Are you willing to learn from the nobel example of a few of Uriah's relatives? Or do want to reject God and His revelations to the only man he could find who could and would carry out the mission?
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Mike
Are you willing to learn from the OT that God had writen for our learning?
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There was a Way Magazine article about the noble relatives of Uriah in the early 80's.
Did you ever see it?
It was not written by Dr, but by John Scheonheit.
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You suggest that these women might have met a worse fate had they not "learned about the True God from Dr."
A worse fate than suffering under the sweaty body of an old man in whom you had misplaced your trust and your honor?
You worship that man. Don't dare even pretend you can teach me the truth about anything.
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Mike
Yes. There are much worse fates that that.
...like not knowing that God is good.
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Catcup
Oh, see, so they should be thankful!
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Thankful for the accurate teaching, yes.
Thankful for any sin against them, no.
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