Actually,on Eyechart's name I had the newspaper in front of me when I was posting...I think there's too many angles to look at to decide who really owns the ball...But sportswriter's do like to start some sh!t and then step back and say "fight'em,buddy,I'll hold your jacket"....
As far as the Cubs,I'm usually a morning newspaper reader,and the Az. republic will say nothing about the other teams besides the D-backs until spring workouts start,so I'm a little in the dark...Workouts start before Spring Training games and are worth my son and I playing hookie a few times for and just hanging around and watching...Last year the Cubs had a few old hired hands helping out,Billy Williams,Fergie Jenkins,Ryne Sandberg....And just standing ten feet away from them while they're talking to the younger players about technique,strategy,or clowning around,when you know you should be working or in school,...it's like being in heaven,or maybe Iowa....
maybe God did hear your prayers a very long time ago...
...Theyv'e been showing reruns of the 1975-RedSox-Reds Worlds Series around here and boy is it refreshing. Its amazing to me how small, everybody looks,even Bench looks small by todays standards, none of that body armor anywhere (only a few batting gloves) pitchers going nine and each game much closer than my memory had remembered them to be.
None of those infernal graphics all over the screens, no advertisements all over the ballpark or commercials every 15 seconds either, just Curt Gowdy, Tony Kubek and two great teams. Its interesting rewinding the clock 29 years. The Sox could be up 3-0 easily enough but are down 2-1
Game 4 (Luis Tiant vs Don Gullett) tomorrow. Its a good way to spend a cold winters night
Sounds like fun...I don't remember the name of the movie,but one of my favorite dialog's in it was a part where Robin Williams was an analyst and Matthew Damian was some kind of genius and his patient...Williams was excitedly telling Damian about how he was at Game 6 of the '75 World Series,and Damian says "Wow,so you saw Pudge's homer?",and Williams just replied something like,"No,I was too mesmerized by the blue-eyed girl at the beer garden,and I missed it"...But he did end up marrying her....
I liked when Gowdy and Kubek did games...I think in those days the cather just wore a regular cap backwards and a small mask,and the ump had to hold up his own chest protector...and I think they wore ties....
Yup they have the ties and the Red suit jackets (this year), the game is alot simpler -no pitch counts, no clocking of pitches, no endless replays, hardly any shots in the stands, only about 3 cameras. The announcers have to fill up the air time with substance(!) instead of endless special effects. Its great to hear Gowdy again (I had forgotten how enjoyable he was..)and in what is a brilliant stroke that should be reintroduced, they have the the teams announcers join the NBC crew....it makes baseball look like---well--baseball.
I've seen the Fisk homerun replay about 1,326,645 times over the years(the movie was Good Will Hunting btw)but the the series itself was equally exciting with 4 games being decided in the ninth or extra innings.
The Big Red Machine is formidable (Rose, Morgan, Bench, Perez at the top of the lineup). Fred Lynn for the Sox looks like a young Joe Dimaggio.
I'm still po'ed at Larry Barnett for blowing an interference call in the 10th inning of game 3 which cost the Red Sox the game...but we got the interference call this year against ARod so even though I had to wait 29 years things do eventually balance out....
Good ol' Orville Overall pitches a three-hit shutout...God,in those days,you talk about weak hitting....Seemed like every pitcher had an ERA under 3.00....'Course,they didn't have the long ball to drive in runs in bunches...It was probably more like Highschool freshman baseball is today as far as hitting goes....Few freshman can hit a ball 350 feet on a consistant basis so you have to try and bunch your hits together to score runs,or steal a lot more...
High school freshmen is about right. I clicked on Johnny Evers...the immortal Johnny Evers he is listed at 5'9" 125lbs. I know 13 year olds that big and he is one of the best known players of that era.
Things were different -Tinker tried to go from first to third on a groundball to short in the ninth-he was cutdown but havent seen that in awhile.
Other intriguing things:
Time 1:25
(I guess they didnt take too many pitches)
Attendance: 6210
(the last game of a World Series?? Of the 10's of millions (maybe Hundreds) of people who've seen the Cubs since, its sort of strange that little over 6000 were there the last time they won it all.)
...well, the stRangers were just out to get some free publicity I guess... they pulled the deal from Delgado because (they say) they only want him to DH... sheesh! Texiera has always said that he'll play anywhere, he doesn't care, Delgado's not that much of a liability at 1st, besides, it's not like they don't put up with fielding inferiority for bat strength (see Soriano, Alfonso)... they could've worked out a little rotation between Tex, Delgado, Mench, etc... they're just strokin' us again... and they say it's out of loyalty to Tex... he's a great guy, but it's not like he'll be around after his contract is up (his agent is the 'baseball anti-christ' (Boras))...
Thats too bad, Delgado would seem like a good fit down there, and probably tighten up that division just that much more.
Its hard to know exactly what agents/GM's are thinking when they offer deals, renegotiate, pull back, offer again etc. Its like watching poker sometimes in the offseason....a whole different game behind the game.
Delgado is one of those 'intangibles' guys that brings alot to a team even though he isnt that great of a fielder. Aside from hitting for average and power, in my memory He always seems to go deep in the count and have 10 pitch at bats, which these days wears pitchers down...like I said I'd love to have him in Boston...but the rumors seem to favor the Mets(how much money are they spending this offseason??) or Orioles now....
I just read the story about the coma guy...Thank God for his recovery,...but that really sucks....That's like me trying to be all gaga because the Cubs won the 1908 World Series....
I think the tough part is some fanatical Sox fans, who must do everything the same during a winning streak may demand he goes into another coma come playoff time next year to ensure another win... ;)-->
....Mienkiwicz and THE BALL just got traded for Ian Bladergroen...
ONLY 3 Months? If I have 3 days in a row over 90 I'm melting. But if the Rangers want to sign a 49 year old reliever with a fastball that probably approachs a blistering 60MPH plus has a bad shoulder I'll be right down.
That ball would be really flying over that right field porch then...
...I'm watching the 86 World Series on a local station as I post...the Buckner game (reliving the agony). Clemens is pitching a whale of a game . He's 24 and looks like a kid
----I saw an interview with him a few years ago, he's your basic overly paunchy middle aged guy now with a few memories he'd rather forget--
a farmer somewhere I think...He took it hard...
I was on a class crew in Tampa when that game was on. It was session 12, I was sneaking between the class and a small TV downstairs and sat stunned and in unbelief (heard enough but refused to believe)...well...for 18 years.
Finally they've all been redeemed by the blood of Curt Schilling
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Actually,on Eyechart's name I had the newspaper in front of me when I was posting...I think there's too many angles to look at to decide who really owns the ball...But sportswriter's do like to start some sh!t and then step back and say "fight'em,buddy,I'll hold your jacket"....
As far as the Cubs,I'm usually a morning newspaper reader,and the Az. republic will say nothing about the other teams besides the D-backs until spring workouts start,so I'm a little in the dark...Workouts start before Spring Training games and are worth my son and I playing hookie a few times for and just hanging around and watching...Last year the Cubs had a few old hired hands helping out,Billy Williams,Fergie Jenkins,Ryne Sandberg....And just standing ten feet away from them while they're talking to the younger players about technique,strategy,or clowning around,when you know you should be working or in school,...it's like being in heaven,or maybe Iowa....
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too cool!
maybe God did hear your prayers a very long time ago...
...Theyv'e been showing reruns of the 1975-RedSox-Reds Worlds Series around here and boy is it refreshing. Its amazing to me how small, everybody looks,even Bench looks small by todays standards, none of that body armor anywhere (only a few batting gloves) pitchers going nine and each game much closer than my memory had remembered them to be.
None of those infernal graphics all over the screens, no advertisements all over the ballpark or commercials every 15 seconds either, just Curt Gowdy, Tony Kubek and two great teams. Its interesting rewinding the clock 29 years. The Sox could be up 3-0 easily enough but are down 2-1
Game 4 (Luis Tiant vs Don Gullett) tomorrow. Its a good way to spend a cold winters night
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Sounds like fun...I don't remember the name of the movie,but one of my favorite dialog's in it was a part where Robin Williams was an analyst and Matthew Damian was some kind of genius and his patient...Williams was excitedly telling Damian about how he was at Game 6 of the '75 World Series,and Damian says "Wow,so you saw Pudge's homer?",and Williams just replied something like,"No,I was too mesmerized by the blue-eyed girl at the beer garden,and I missed it"...But he did end up marrying her....
I liked when Gowdy and Kubek did games...I think in those days the cather just wore a regular cap backwards and a small mask,and the ump had to hold up his own chest protector...and I think they wore ties....
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Yup they have the ties and the Red suit jackets (this year), the game is alot simpler -no pitch counts, no clocking of pitches, no endless replays, hardly any shots in the stands, only about 3 cameras. The announcers have to fill up the air time with substance(!) instead of endless special effects. Its great to hear Gowdy again (I had forgotten how enjoyable he was..)and in what is a brilliant stroke that should be reintroduced, they have the the teams announcers join the NBC crew....it makes baseball look like---well--baseball.
I've seen the Fisk homerun replay about 1,326,645 times over the years(the movie was Good Will Hunting btw)but the the series itself was equally exciting with 4 games being decided in the ninth or extra innings.
The Big Red Machine is formidable (Rose, Morgan, Bench, Perez at the top of the lineup). Fred Lynn for the Sox looks like a young Joe Dimaggio.
I'm still po'ed at Larry Barnett for blowing an interference call in the 10th inning of game 3 which cost the Red Sox the game...but we got the interference call this year against ARod so even though I had to wait 29 years things do eventually balance out....
Mark your calendar
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Good ol' Orville Overall pitches a three-hit shutout...God,in those days,you talk about weak hitting....Seemed like every pitcher had an ERA under 3.00....'Course,they didn't have the long ball to drive in runs in bunches...It was probably more like Highschool freshman baseball is today as far as hitting goes....Few freshman can hit a ball 350 feet on a consistant basis so you have to try and bunch your hits together to score runs,or steal a lot more...
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High school freshmen is about right. I clicked on Johnny Evers...the immortal Johnny Evers he is listed at 5'9" 125lbs. I know 13 year olds that big and he is one of the best known players of that era.
Things were different -Tinker tried to go from first to third on a groundball to short in the ninth-he was cutdown but havent seen that in awhile.
Other intriguing things:
Time 1:25
(I guess they didnt take too many pitches)
Attendance: 6210
(the last game of a World Series?? Of the 10's of millions (maybe Hundreds) of people who've seen the Cubs since, its sort of strange that little over 6000 were there the last time they won it all.)
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I'll say this much...I doubt many living persons will have seen the Cubs' last World Series victory and the next one...
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While spring training slowly slowly inches closer-
Heres a boxscore to make you go Yowza
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Simon couldn't wait til Spring - - he's already down in Florida scouting
;)-->
Me thinks he's a spy for the Cactus league....
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I hope the stRangers get Delgado... it'll be like having "Raffie, the sequel"... he'll love that right field porch!
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I like Delgado, I wouldn't mind having him here at Fenway either. For your sake if you end up with him I hope he is RaffiII and not ARod Jr.
...best thing the Rangers ever did was to dump him ..and I'm glad he didn't end up here.
and you have to feel forthis guy, a lifelong RedSox fan who went into a coma when the playoffs started and missed the World Series.
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Dang! poor guy...
...well, the stRangers were just out to get some free publicity I guess... they pulled the deal from Delgado because (they say) they only want him to DH... sheesh! Texiera has always said that he'll play anywhere, he doesn't care, Delgado's not that much of a liability at 1st, besides, it's not like they don't put up with fielding inferiority for bat strength (see Soriano, Alfonso)... they could've worked out a little rotation between Tex, Delgado, Mench, etc... they're just strokin' us again... and they say it's out of loyalty to Tex... he's a great guy, but it's not like he'll be around after his contract is up (his agent is the 'baseball anti-christ' (Boras))...
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Thats too bad, Delgado would seem like a good fit down there, and probably tighten up that division just that much more.
Its hard to know exactly what agents/GM's are thinking when they offer deals, renegotiate, pull back, offer again etc. Its like watching poker sometimes in the offseason....a whole different game behind the game.
Delgado is one of those 'intangibles' guys that brings alot to a team even though he isnt that great of a fielder. Aside from hitting for average and power, in my memory He always seems to go deep in the count and have 10 pitch at bats, which these days wears pitchers down...like I said I'd love to have him in Boston...but the rumors seem to favor the Mets(how much money are they spending this offseason??) or Orioles now....
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I just read the story about the coma guy...Thank God for his recovery,...but that really sucks....That's like me trying to be all gaga because the Cubs won the 1908 World Series....
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Welcome back Simon--
I think the tough part is some fanatical Sox fans, who must do everything the same during a winning streak may demand he goes into another coma come playoff time next year to ensure another win...
;)-->
....Mienkiwicz and THE BALL just got traded for Ian Bladergroen...
Who?
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Thanks,Mstar....
Sounds like a trade made in the North American Soccer League...
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So.. Delgado will sleep with the fishes...
...oh well... he could've hit 50 HRs a year here... guess he wants to wilt in the heat, humidity and long right field wall they have...
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$52,000,000 can keep from wilting pretty good, besides isn't it like playing in a pizza oven in Arlington?
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well... only three months out of the season! ...but the ball does fly out to that right field porch...
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ONLY 3 Months? If I have 3 days in a row over 90 I'm melting. But if the Rangers want to sign a 49 year old reliever with a fastball that probably approachs a blistering 60MPH plus has a bad shoulder I'll be right down.
That ball would be really flying over that right field porch then...
...I'm watching the 86 World Series on a local station as I post...the Buckner game (reliving the agony). Clemens is pitching a whale of a game . He's 24 and looks like a kid
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Poor Calvin Schiraldi....Whatever happened to him?
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----I saw an interview with him a few years ago, he's your basic overly paunchy middle aged guy now with a few memories he'd rather forget--
a farmer somewhere I think...He took it hard...
I was on a class crew in Tampa when that game was on. It was session 12, I was sneaking between the class and a small TV downstairs and sat stunned and in unbelief (heard enough but refused to believe)...well...for 18 years.
Finally they've all been redeemed by the blood of Curt Schilling
Schiraldi Now
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mstar! I'm sure you'd have a chance if you're a lefty!
Lefty's don't have to be that good these days, just lefthanded...
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well i might be able to roll it 60'6" lefthanded, or do my Rick "Which way did it go" Ankiel imitation.....
darn when my big league chance finally came I was a northpaw
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