George you quoted where your article said they opened the candle that was burned out in the fresh air and it was identical to the one in the ear. That is not the case with my friends nor me. The open-air candle did have white crumble wax in it but not the brown earwax. The ones in my ears did have the brown earwax.
Also, last night I put "sweet oil" in my ear and the ringing stopped.
Valerie-
The tinnius is a horrible malady. About five years ago my other ear had loud buzzing all the time. I about went mad. I went to an audiolist who told me I had tinnius and would go deaf. Well, I would have preferred deaf over the ringing. I also used white noise to get through a day or a night sleeping. A fan in the background was the best for me.
I went to an ear specialist who then told me about an ear product like a hearing aid, which manufactured a white noise to help me exist.
I read all I could to heal myself naturally and I kept reading most people with this malady die of suicide. And it was a consideration as the noise (like a trapped bee) was testing my sanity.
In the meantime, I had to go to a pariodontist (gum guy) and he found I had a "hull" of a piece of pop corn stuck up (way up) under my gum which had led to an infection and the deterioration of my jaw bone. When I had surgery to remove the infected part my ear no longer rang. Apparently, I was HEARING my jaw being eaten away by infection.
The gum guy said 90% of his business is from popcorn hulls. Makes me reconsider my snacks.
Craniosacral therapists recognise health as an active principle. This health is the expression of life - an inherent ordering force, a natural internal intelligence. Craniosacral Therapy is a subtle and profound healing form which assists this natural bodily intelligence.
It is clear that a living human organism is immensely complex and requires an enormous amount of internal organisation. Craniosacral Therapy helps nurture these internal ordering principles. It helps increase physical vitality and well-being, not only effecting structural change, but also having much wider implications e.g. improving interpersonal relationships, managing more appropriately etc.
Dr William Sutherland, an American osteopath, discovered intrinsic movements of the bones of the skull around the turn of the century. His further research revealed different rhythmic tidal motions in the body. These movements, which can be measured with delicate scientific instruments, are a direct expression of the health of the system.
As research continued it became apparent that these movements are inextricably linked with not only physical health but also mental and emotional health. Palpation of these tide- like motions allows Craniosacral therapists to facilitate change in areas of restriction. This restriction of movement corresponds to a lack of the capacity of the life force to express its self-healing. This absence of health may result in disease or a sense of something missing or numbness.
The whole of our life history is held in our physical form. An integral part of this work is the patient's developing awareness of how their story is held and how it unfolds. We are a unit of life function and this is completely respected in Craniosacral Therapy.
The work can address issues in whatever way the client wishes; physical aches and pains, acute and chronic disease, emotional or psychological disturbances, or simply developing well-being, health and vitality.
Craniosacral Therapy is so gentle that it is suitable for babies, children, and the elderly, as well as adults; and also in fragile or acutely painful conditions. As a whole body therapy, treatment may aid almost every condition, raising the vitality and enabling the body's own self-healing process to be utilised.
The following is a list of some of the common conditions treated;
Arthritis Insomnia
Asthma Lethargy
Autism Menstrual pain, PMS
Back pain Migraine
Birth trauma Post-operative
Bronchitis Problems during and after pregnancy
Cancer Reintegration after accidents
Cerebral Palsy Fall or injury
Colic Sciatica
Depression Sinusitis
Digestive problems Spinal curvatures
Drug withdrawal Sports injuries
Dyslexia Stress related illnesses
Exhaustion Tinnitus and middle ear problems
Frozen shoulder TMJ (jaw) disorders
Hormonal imbalances Visual disturbances
Hyperactivity Whiplash injuries
Immune system disorders
The work can be profoundly relaxing, exhilarating, deeply moving or involve a resolution of old material. Sometimes the benefits are not immediately noticeable but become obvious on returning to a familiar environment. Sessions are usually between 40 - 60 minutes in total.
Thanks everyone for all the info. I guess I will stop the peroxide. But the sweet oil did soothe my ear and stop the noise.
I must say, now that the noise has stopped, I can hear better than before the candle thing.
Dmiller
The candle is like a cone it goes almost to a point with a little hole for the smoke to come out, it would be difficult, but not impossible for the wax to fall through the hole INTO your ear.
I know, I know, it's all lies, what do they know about it anyway, my (uncle, aunt, best friend, boss, coworker) had severe problems with (- fill in the blank - ) and craniosacral therapy SAVED HIS/HER LIFE! Yada, yada,...
Here's a telling passage from that link George posted: (emphasis added)
quote:The theory underlying craniosacral therapy is erroneous because the cranial bones fuse by the end of adolescence and no research has ever demonstrated that manual manipulation can move the individual bones [17]. Nor do I believe that "the rhythms of the craniosacral system can be felt as clearly as the rhythms of the cardiovascular and respiratory systems," as is claimed by another Upledger Institute brochure [18]. The brain does pulsate, but this is exclusively related to the cardiovascular system [19]. In a recent study, three physical therapists who examined the same 12 patients diagnosed significantly different "craniosacral rates," which is the expected outcome of measuring a nonexistent phenomenon [20].
The last sentence has an interesting parallel. In the first season of Penn&Teller:Bull....!, the guys did a similar test with three Feng Shui "experts." They were given the same room with the same furniture and told to arrange it to its optimum Feng Shui-ness, or whatever. The three experts were not aware of each other. None of them put the same thing in the same place, yet all of them came up with official-sounding BS to defend their FS as the optimum. "...which is the expected outcome of measuring a nonexistent phenomenon." ;)-->
I believe what you've posted is called "anecdotal evidence". And it is the prime component in just about every belief system I can think of.
Doesn't it bother you at all that "treatments" such as this always fail utterly under laboratory test conditions? Or that there's no reasonable explanation for how it even works?
Bigfoot, UFOs, Loch Ness Monsters, Haunted Houses all have voluminous amounts of anecdotal evidence, but NOTHING verifiable and repeatable. Why do you suppose that is?
Are you friggin' kidding me? Buy the 3 books explaining the thing in language that I can barely understand with clinical testing, etc. (They're close to $60 each).
You can order them through the Upledger Institute in Palm Springs, FL.
When you're done reading them, then I'll talk to you about it.
Gotta tell you, I would pay $200 for electric shoes if they stopped my ear from ringing.
And if they stopped it from ringing you could hand me 1000 tests that say it does not work, but if my ear was clear of the horrible noise leading to deafness or insanity, I would not care about your tests.
Chiropractors were considered "quacks" for years because the medical community enjoys surgery -- bigger bucks. But a chiropractor put my neck back together when the medical community failed.
The medical community also laughed at Dr. Atkins for years. Now all of a sudden the carb thing is valid and people are loosing weight.
The holistic medical community was snickered at when they told women NOT to take premarin (hormone) as the medical Doctors were pushing all of us into it. (Incl. me). Then, about 10 years later they announce it does cause cancer and makes women FAT and do NOT take it.
Sometimes the medical community has to catch up with the holistic community before they scoff and dismiss things.
Oh, and chiropractors, yes, they've been called quacks, maybe because THEY ARE! (uh oh, here it comes)
And as one who has not only done the Atkins diet (and lost a little weight) but THOUGHT about it a little bit (something I would recommend in any endeavor), I think the key element to it's success is that, carbs not withstanding, when a person is on that diet they take in less calories. Hence, they lose weight (sometimes, anyway).
Doesn't the idea that you can load x-amount of fuel into a container, then, without increasing the work of the device connected to that container, the fuel will magically disappear - IF IT'S THE "RIGHT" KIND OF FUEL, well, doesn't that defy logic? I guess if you're on the diet, and it's working for you, why question how it works, eh?
I find I'm much more apt to believe Atkin's theories if I don't actually READ what he has to say. The tone of his works has the typical pseudo-scientific "woo-woo" kinda ring to it, that really puts me off.
Another rhetorical question that I'm sure will keep me on the top-ten list of favorite posters,
Why is it that women seem much more likely to buy into new-age, "alternative" medicine crapola
Probably because women are more sensitive to energy and emotion and feeling...and sometimes it's just those things that cause illness and disease...stress included.
My client base is 50-50 men and women. I do cranio treatments consistantly on a male osteopath doctor at the VNA...works wonders on his back where nothing else does.
There are plenty of men out there getting these treatments...perhaps you just aren't in their circles, huh? ;)--> It doesn't seem so, anyways...
Wacky: That's not borne out by the research. On average, both are equally intelligent. Women have a narrower bell curve than men, meaning there is a higher chance that any random woman will have the average IQ than a man will. They are less likely to be slow, but also less likely to be geniuses. Roughly translated and grossly oversimplified, say the average IQ is 100, and you take a sample of 100 women and a sample of 100 men. In the middle 30% of the IQ scores, say 10 men have IQs of 80-95, 10 have 95-105, and 10 have 105-120. Women might have 5 with 80-95, 20 with 95-105, and 5 with 105-120. The average IQ is the same overall, it's just distributed differently between the sexes. There are fewer brilliant women, but there are more stupid men, if that makes a difference.
Of course, that could also be part of unmeasured bias in the tests, etc.
My son as a kid (and an adult for all I know) flatly refused to wash his ears. As a result he would get the mother of all wax collections. A doctor told me to put a generous amount of sweet oil in his ear, plug it gently with cotton, and in the morning the horrible nasty junk in his ear came out on the cotton, nicely softened by the sweet oil (which is incidentally a very very refined olive oil).
Never heard of ear candling. the ringing sounds serious. You might want to stick to sweet oil.
I was in an accident and was regular in visiting an orthopedic surgeon. We tried exercise, pain pills and muscle relaxers.
I could not pick up my purse I could not bend my neck to brush my teeth, I was in pain constantly. I had to use a contraption where weights were hung off my neck and I had lay with these weights around three or four times a day if memory serves.
My surgeon sat down with me and told me the only thing left was surgery but that ran the risk of being paralyzed. HE TOLD ME of a chiropractor who did "manipulation under anesthesia". HE said I should consider it.
It was a NEW procedure but there had been GREAT results. So, I did it. I was put in the hospital for a few days and they knocked me out and adjusted my neck. At the end of the few days, I was "fixed". I could pick up my purse, bend over the sink and live without pain.
The other man who had the procedure done was a "rug layer" (It was his company) and he had injured himself two years before and could not work. At the end of the week he returned to work.
It was so amazing that the "medical spot" on the news heard of it and arranged an interview with me. They showed parts of my "procedure" that were taped for training others on television as well as my new found mobility.
And that Huntington Beach Orthopedic Doctor recommended him. California is progressive.
Not everything is hokie. The known science of the day is not always right. Once they swore the world was flat. They used to think that foods had larva within until they discovered food free of flies simply rotted away. Not to long ago you science guys swore there was nothing smaller than an atom then you split the atom and behold stuff was in there. For years they told people not to eat eggs because they would ruin your heart. Thus “eggbeaters” were created. The healthy "science egg". The whole time the holistic folks were saying “eat the egg in its entirety” because the lecithin in the one part will emulsify the cholesterol in the other….
Then, all of a sudden eggs were healthy again in the (much of the) medical community.
Western medicine puts each part of the body into a separate category. Such as the ear Doctor thought I was going deaf as a result of tinnius when it was a infected tooth/gum/jaw which was the cause. Eastern medicine seems to look at things in their entirety and I think that to be more prudent.
Now, I do not believe that dancing around a fire wearing a head dress will bring rain, but I do think opening my mind up to different ideas may provide health. It is okay if you are more boxed in --- in your beliefs. You gotta find what works. My search for what works just takes me outside the box. And yes, there may be strange ideas that do not work outside that box, but there maybe something that does work.
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How to cure tinnitus? Get some cranio-sacral therapy work done.
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I have had tinnitis for over 11 years now, driving all those
damn military vehicles.
I have tried every natural cure there is.
I will have to try cranial sacral therapy. That is one thing I have not have done in over 20 years.
If there is music on etc, the ringing is not so noticable but it is ALWAYS there......
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Wacky Funster
gee Valerie...perhaps over Thanksgiving I could give you a few sessions...
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whats this? an ear enema?
drink the alchohol and take some beano
:D-->
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Boric acid works well --
Swimmers Ear Drops:
1 T. boric acid
4 oz. distilled water
1 T. vinegar or alcohol
Drop in ears after swimming to destroy any fungus swimming may have caused. (Much cheaper than buying it or doctors visits)
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George you quoted where your article said they opened the candle that was burned out in the fresh air and it was identical to the one in the ear. That is not the case with my friends nor me. The open-air candle did have white crumble wax in it but not the brown earwax. The ones in my ears did have the brown earwax.
Also, last night I put "sweet oil" in my ear and the ringing stopped.
Valerie-
The tinnius is a horrible malady. About five years ago my other ear had loud buzzing all the time. I about went mad. I went to an audiolist who told me I had tinnius and would go deaf. Well, I would have preferred deaf over the ringing. I also used white noise to get through a day or a night sleeping. A fan in the background was the best for me.
I went to an ear specialist who then told me about an ear product like a hearing aid, which manufactured a white noise to help me exist.
I read all I could to heal myself naturally and I kept reading most people with this malady die of suicide. And it was a consideration as the noise (like a trapped bee) was testing my sanity.
In the meantime, I had to go to a pariodontist (gum guy) and he found I had a "hull" of a piece of pop corn stuck up (way up) under my gum which had led to an infection and the deterioration of my jaw bone. When I had surgery to remove the infected part my ear no longer rang. Apparently, I was HEARING my jaw being eaten away by infection.
The gum guy said 90% of his business is from popcorn hulls. Makes me reconsider my snacks.
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Wacky I found this, it sounds interesting. (Except that they also left the "z" out of recognise and organi"z"ation -- the "z" thing makes me nuts)
http://www.craniosacral.co.uk/whatiscst.htm
What is Craniosacral Therapy?
Craniosacral therapists recognise health as an active principle. This health is the expression of life - an inherent ordering force, a natural internal intelligence. Craniosacral Therapy is a subtle and profound healing form which assists this natural bodily intelligence.
It is clear that a living human organism is immensely complex and requires an enormous amount of internal organisation. Craniosacral Therapy helps nurture these internal ordering principles. It helps increase physical vitality and well-being, not only effecting structural change, but also having much wider implications e.g. improving interpersonal relationships, managing more appropriately etc.
Dr William Sutherland, an American osteopath, discovered intrinsic movements of the bones of the skull around the turn of the century. His further research revealed different rhythmic tidal motions in the body. These movements, which can be measured with delicate scientific instruments, are a direct expression of the health of the system.
As research continued it became apparent that these movements are inextricably linked with not only physical health but also mental and emotional health. Palpation of these tide- like motions allows Craniosacral therapists to facilitate change in areas of restriction. This restriction of movement corresponds to a lack of the capacity of the life force to express its self-healing. This absence of health may result in disease or a sense of something missing or numbness.
The whole of our life history is held in our physical form. An integral part of this work is the patient's developing awareness of how their story is held and how it unfolds. We are a unit of life function and this is completely respected in Craniosacral Therapy.
The work can address issues in whatever way the client wishes; physical aches and pains, acute and chronic disease, emotional or psychological disturbances, or simply developing well-being, health and vitality.
Craniosacral Therapy is so gentle that it is suitable for babies, children, and the elderly, as well as adults; and also in fragile or acutely painful conditions. As a whole body therapy, treatment may aid almost every condition, raising the vitality and enabling the body's own self-healing process to be utilised.
The following is a list of some of the common conditions treated;
Arthritis Insomnia
Asthma Lethargy
Autism Menstrual pain, PMS
Back pain Migraine
Birth trauma Post-operative
Bronchitis Problems during and after pregnancy
Cancer Reintegration after accidents
Cerebral Palsy Fall or injury
Colic Sciatica
Depression Sinusitis
Digestive problems Spinal curvatures
Drug withdrawal Sports injuries
Dyslexia Stress related illnesses
Exhaustion Tinnitus and middle ear problems
Frozen shoulder TMJ (jaw) disorders
Hormonal imbalances Visual disturbances
Hyperactivity Whiplash injuries
Immune system disorders
The work can be profoundly relaxing, exhilarating, deeply moving or involve a resolution of old material. Sometimes the benefits are not immediately noticeable but become obvious on returning to a familiar environment. Sessions are usually between 40 - 60 minutes in total.
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Thanks everyone for all the info. I guess I will stop the peroxide. But the sweet oil did soothe my ear and stop the noise.
I must say, now that the noise has stopped, I can hear better than before the candle thing.
Dmiller
The candle is like a cone it goes almost to a point with a little hole for the smoke to come out, it would be difficult, but not impossible for the wax to fall through the hole INTO your ear.
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For your further reading enjoyment,
a little treatise on "craniosacral therapy":
http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/QA/osteo.html
I know, I know, it's all lies, what do they know about it anyway, my (uncle, aunt, best friend, boss, coworker) had severe problems with (- fill in the blank - ) and craniosacral therapy SAVED HIS/HER LIFE! Yada, yada,...
I think I need a chakra adjustment...
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Here's a telling passage from that link George posted: (emphasis added)
The last sentence has an interesting parallel. In the first season of Penn&Teller:Bull....!, the guys did a similar test with three Feng Shui "experts." They were given the same room with the same furniture and told to arrange it to its optimum Feng Shui-ness, or whatever. The three experts were not aware of each other. None of them put the same thing in the same place, yet all of them came up with official-sounding BS to defend their FS as the optimum. "...which is the expected outcome of measuring a nonexistent phenomenon."Link to comment
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I've been giving craniosacral treatments for over 10 years now, and beg to differ with you...
...it works for some...and doesn't for others...
I've seen miracles and I've seen incredible healing...
I've also seen it not work for a few.
Like any other mode of treatment...if it works for you, it's a beautiful thing...if not-find another modality.
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WF,
I believe what you've posted is called "anecdotal evidence". And it is the prime component in just about every belief system I can think of.
Doesn't it bother you at all that "treatments" such as this always fail utterly under laboratory test conditions? Or that there's no reasonable explanation for how it even works?
Bigfoot, UFOs, Loch Ness Monsters, Haunted Houses all have voluminous amounts of anecdotal evidence, but NOTHING verifiable and repeatable. Why do you suppose that is?
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Are you friggin' kidding me? Buy the 3 books explaining the thing in language that I can barely understand with clinical testing, etc. (They're close to $60 each).
You can order them through the Upledger Institute in Palm Springs, FL.
When you're done reading them, then I'll talk to you about it.
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Yeah, I'll be getting to that as soon as I finish my treatise on ethereal harmony and astral modalities with an overview to Feng Shui disciplines...
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Gotta tell you, I would pay $200 for electric shoes if they stopped my ear from ringing.
And if they stopped it from ringing you could hand me 1000 tests that say it does not work, but if my ear was clear of the horrible noise leading to deafness or insanity, I would not care about your tests.
Chiropractors were considered "quacks" for years because the medical community enjoys surgery -- bigger bucks. But a chiropractor put my neck back together when the medical community failed.
The medical community also laughed at Dr. Atkins for years. Now all of a sudden the carb thing is valid and people are loosing weight.
The holistic medical community was snickered at when they told women NOT to take premarin (hormone) as the medical Doctors were pushing all of us into it. (Incl. me). Then, about 10 years later they announce it does cause cancer and makes women FAT and do NOT take it.
Sometimes the medical community has to catch up with the holistic community before they scoff and dismiss things.
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Touche Dot.
Interesting how it takes a skeptic to get injured before they take notice and get the facts...
...talk is cheap.
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Geo... why do you lump UFO's in with those other things?
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Gee Tom,
Uh, cause they're equally bogus?
Oh, and chiropractors, yes, they've been called quacks, maybe because THEY ARE! (uh oh, here it comes)
And as one who has not only done the Atkins diet (and lost a little weight) but THOUGHT about it a little bit (something I would recommend in any endeavor), I think the key element to it's success is that, carbs not withstanding, when a person is on that diet they take in less calories. Hence, they lose weight (sometimes, anyway).
Doesn't the idea that you can load x-amount of fuel into a container, then, without increasing the work of the device connected to that container, the fuel will magically disappear - IF IT'S THE "RIGHT" KIND OF FUEL, well, doesn't that defy logic? I guess if you're on the diet, and it's working for you, why question how it works, eh?
I find I'm much more apt to believe Atkin's theories if I don't actually READ what he has to say. The tone of his works has the typical pseudo-scientific "woo-woo" kinda ring to it, that really puts me off.
Another rhetorical question that I'm sure will keep me on the top-ten list of favorite posters,
Why is it that women seem much more likely to buy into new-age, "alternative" medicine crapola
than men are? Just wondering...
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Probably because women are more sensitive to energy and emotion and feeling...and sometimes it's just those things that cause illness and disease...stress included.
My client base is 50-50 men and women. I do cranio treatments consistantly on a male osteopath doctor at the VNA...works wonders on his back where nothing else does.
There are plenty of men out there getting these treatments...perhaps you just aren't in their circles, huh?
;)--> It doesn't seem so, anyways...
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...plus...we're smarter
:D-->
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Geo! UFOs bogus? Shirley, you jest!
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Wacky: That's not borne out by the research. On average, both are equally intelligent. Women have a narrower bell curve than men, meaning there is a higher chance that any random woman will have the average IQ than a man will. They are less likely to be slow, but also less likely to be geniuses. Roughly translated and grossly oversimplified, say the average IQ is 100, and you take a sample of 100 women and a sample of 100 men. In the middle 30% of the IQ scores, say 10 men have IQs of 80-95, 10 have 95-105, and 10 have 105-120. Women might have 5 with 80-95, 20 with 95-105, and 5 with 105-120. The average IQ is the same overall, it's just distributed differently between the sexes. There are fewer brilliant women, but there are more stupid men, if that makes a difference.
Of course, that could also be part of unmeasured bias in the tests, etc.
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Dot,
My son as a kid (and an adult for all I know) flatly refused to wash his ears. As a result he would get the mother of all wax collections. A doctor told me to put a generous amount of sweet oil in his ear, plug it gently with cotton, and in the morning the horrible nasty junk in his ear came out on the cotton, nicely softened by the sweet oil (which is incidentally a very very refined olive oil).
Never heard of ear candling. the ringing sounds serious. You might want to stick to sweet oil.
WG
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Chiropractors:
I was in an accident and was regular in visiting an orthopedic surgeon. We tried exercise, pain pills and muscle relaxers.
I could not pick up my purse I could not bend my neck to brush my teeth, I was in pain constantly. I had to use a contraption where weights were hung off my neck and I had lay with these weights around three or four times a day if memory serves.
My surgeon sat down with me and told me the only thing left was surgery but that ran the risk of being paralyzed. HE TOLD ME of a chiropractor who did "manipulation under anesthesia". HE said I should consider it.
It was a NEW procedure but there had been GREAT results. So, I did it. I was put in the hospital for a few days and they knocked me out and adjusted my neck. At the end of the few days, I was "fixed". I could pick up my purse, bend over the sink and live without pain.
The other man who had the procedure done was a "rug layer" (It was his company) and he had injured himself two years before and could not work. At the end of the week he returned to work.
It was so amazing that the "medical spot" on the news heard of it and arranged an interview with me. They showed parts of my "procedure" that were taped for training others on television as well as my new found mobility.
And that Huntington Beach Orthopedic Doctor recommended him. California is progressive.
Not everything is hokie. The known science of the day is not always right. Once they swore the world was flat. They used to think that foods had larva within until they discovered food free of flies simply rotted away. Not to long ago you science guys swore there was nothing smaller than an atom then you split the atom and behold stuff was in there. For years they told people not to eat eggs because they would ruin your heart. Thus “eggbeaters” were created. The healthy "science egg". The whole time the holistic folks were saying “eat the egg in its entirety” because the lecithin in the one part will emulsify the cholesterol in the other….
Then, all of a sudden eggs were healthy again in the (much of the) medical community.
Western medicine puts each part of the body into a separate category. Such as the ear Doctor thought I was going deaf as a result of tinnius when it was a infected tooth/gum/jaw which was the cause. Eastern medicine seems to look at things in their entirety and I think that to be more prudent.
Now, I do not believe that dancing around a fire wearing a head dress will bring rain, but I do think opening my mind up to different ideas may provide health. It is okay if you are more boxed in --- in your beliefs. You gotta find what works. My search for what works just takes me outside the box. And yes, there may be strange ideas that do not work outside that box, but there maybe something that does work.
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