From Twinky, the "Junk Table" thread, opining about VP:
You might ask why a man who hauled off 300 Bible study books and commentaries to the city dump (as stated in PFAL) would not with the Bible books also haul off his several table loads of spiritualist mumbo jumbo.
So, to all you Piffle regurgitators 'round here, Thanks for all your efforts!
No matter how low I may feel, or how bad things may go wrong in my life, I can always read some of your posts and realize that at least I'm not as screwed up as you are.
"What devil spirits were operating in The Way?" – more like, what con artists were operating in the way! I think vp's idea of discerning of spirits was being able to find the Drambuie in a liquor store he wasn't familiar with.
Clearly, God's standard is not how accurately we interpret every jot and tittle of the Bible, as some of His own never read one. Rather, it is about how people loved.
"In regard to your involvement in The Way, you could choose to be a victim, as many have, but may I suggest that is not the best perspective if you desire to live a fruitful life. Frederick Douglas, a former slave and then an abolitionist in the time of the Civil War, once said, "The limits of tyrants are prescribed by those whom they oppress." I like to look at my time in The Way in a more positive sense. I want to "eat the fish and spit out the bones."
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Oddly Frederick Douglass was an abolitionist and didn't continue to support the marvels of slavery, nor the system that he came out of by changing a few commas and then acquiescing to its magnificence.
Douglass spit out the bones, the mercury, the poisoned fish, the bait, the fishing line, the fishing hole and the whole river and then fought tirelessly against the entire system.
maybe he should have had a "more positive approach" like John says, and gone back to that wonderful time <_< and just changed a few minor things here and there
This one's not funny, its more like tragedy, but I thought it was a good observation pinpointing how twi was in reality a myth, a fairytale, an imitation of what a christian ministry was really supossed to be:
TWI shows its spiritual bankruptcy exactly here. It was while standing outside the borrowed church after a TWI memorial service that I realized on a deep level that TWI was an inadequate body for my Christan life with God.
Rigid, know-it-all, doctrinaire systems like TWI's cannot flex and bend with life's deeper more difficult issues (mental illness is another one).
You get a tremendous sense of well-being on a superficial level - but how many Wayites survive tragedies with their 'positive believing' intact? I saw very few - though I did see victims shook to their very core (beneath the veneer).
Life hands out tragedies - you can 'believe' to avoid them in an organization that can't handle them.
Legally, you cannot libel the dead, so the discussion pretty durned well ends there. TWI has no legal standing to sue to protect Wierwille's reputation because, legally, Wierwille HAS no reputation. Reputation, in the law, expires on the same date as the person who has the reputation. Legacy has no legal standing.
That said, I feel perfectly confident in calling VPW a smooth-talking snake oil salesman who abused his position as a minister and twisted the plain meaning of scripture in order to satisfy his lust for sex, money and power.
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now I see
How bout this one: "Odd that VP would hear God telling him to shut up, but not to keep his pants zipped."......A quote from Jim ... Simply classic! I couldn't stop laughing!
JeffSjo
After laughing out loud in the library and receiving a couple of dubious looks I decided to post this one here. Thanks Waysider
WordWolf
The following exchange happened when discussing the assignments for the year, and the "make-work" nature of the reshuffling.... Just Thinking: "This is different from rearranging deck chairs on the
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That's if we can even get past the incredulous look, to start explaining...
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Groucho
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Classic, Oakspear!
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I thought this was a real good one from JeffSjo when speaking of vpw
*I WISH HE WAS THE MAN HE WAS PAINTED TO BE. *
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Classic Hap.
Let's remember, the US has the phrase 'One nation UNDER God'' it does not say EQUAL to Him.
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From Twinky, the "Junk Table" thread, opining about VP:
You might ask why a man who hauled off 300 Bible study books and commentaries to the city dump (as stated in PFAL) would not with the Bible books also haul off his several table loads of spiritualist mumbo jumbo.
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Twinky
Too funny!
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GeoAar June 24, 2008:
Classic Geo!, thanks
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DontWorryBeHappy
classic T-Bone............
"What devil spirits were operating in The Way?" – more like, what con artists were operating in the way! I think vp's idea of discerning of spirits was being able to find the Drambuie in a liquor store he wasn't familiar with.
ROTFLMAO!...........thanks dude!......you rock!
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Shazdancer wrote:
Amen to that!
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This one, from WhiteDove, really cracked me up:
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"In regard to your involvement in The Way, you could choose to be a victim, as many have, but may I suggest that is not the best perspective if you desire to live a fruitful life. Frederick Douglas, a former slave and then an abolitionist in the time of the Civil War, once said, "The limits of tyrants are prescribed by those whom they oppress." I like to look at my time in The Way in a more positive sense. I want to "eat the fish and spit out the bones."
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This one's not funny, its more like tragedy, but I thought it was a good observation pinpointing how twi was in reality a myth, a fairytale, an imitation of what a christian ministry was really supossed to be:
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you people are just -- GEMS
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can you hear that song playing in the background -- chosen gems.... you are beatiful :)
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From the "Soup to Nuts" thread started by Socks to discuss R1co M@gnelli's stint as PR consultant for TWI:
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From the "God will give you double" thread.
Struck me as one of the funniest things I have read on here. I love it!!
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From the "Will the real vpw-ministry remnant please stand up" thread:
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Potato said this on "The Valley Of Human Need".
"I just hope that if I hold out my hand with empathy when someone needs it, it'll give them the strength to carry on."
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