Leaders who leave twi were possessed?

skyrider · October 1, 2004

Most significantly, since 1990....... I must have sat thru 30 corps meetings where LCM named specific daimon devil spirits that inhabited some corps leader who left or was "ousted" by martindale himself. The corps coordinator at gunnison was "a highlighted example" of martindale's scathing remarks. Another man, a project manager overseeing the corps chalet addition, was another that fell prey to lcm's character (and devil spirit) assassination on a corps hook-up.

Many other vivid slanderings come to mind...... all rubber-stamped by martindale's spiritual perception and awareness. He was judge, jury and media reporter all wrapped in one. He had the final say...... and to try and hear the other side of what happened, was NOT an option (unless one wanted a quick, confrontational exit from twi).

BUT NOW THAT MARTINDALE HAS BEEN STRIPPED OF HIS CORPS AND CLERGY STATUS AND OUSTED FROM TWI STAFF...... does the current bod label him devil-possessed? The 2nd president of twi goes down in flames in a landscape of adultery and doctrinal perverseness and divisiveness and what happens?????? The bod remains cold, deathly silent --- for 4 storm-tossed years!

Why? Could it be that they are trying to hold back an avalanche of lawsuits against twi?

Could it be that twi's bod KNOW the scores of victims of martindale's predatory ways?

Could it be that rosie and donna and linder and others KNOW the legion of lies that have been told to prop up martindale as some "great one" so that followers keep sending in their "indulgences" at the level of 15%, at least?

Silence is "golden"............ but my eyes still see. :D-->

skyrider

igotout · October 1, 2004

A lot of lives were wrecked by those scathing remarks, because it ultimately got back to the victim. One man told me he was so torn apart by this treatement that he almost became an alchoholic and that it affected his marriage as well.

This was especially true in the pre-Internet days before there was a forum such as Waydale or this one where the marked and avoided ones could share their feelings and reconnect with others who were similarly treated.

They found themselves suddenly alone, ousted from their friends, and were described publicly as possessed with devil spirits in some cases.

It was even worse for those who were gay or in the closet. I was shocked in some meetings at the screaming and venom that was directed towards them. It was distrubing and unnecessary to publicly name their names, calling them possessed faggots, bull dykes, homos from hell and many other hateful things, regardless of whether or not they were allowed to stay.

I regret not standing up and saying "shut up" and walking out.

skyrider · October 1, 2004

Not only were these screaming meetings unnecessary.....in MANY cases, martindale was vehemently ousting someone TO COVER HIS OWN foot.

Years later, I heard several accounts of the other side of the story. Martindale's sexcapades in gunnison were about to be exposed ---- thus he went into action and ousted some leaders. Or, several know about his 1998 Adv Class sexual assault on a corps guy's wife..... and some get mark/avoid.

Martindale LABELED people as possessed to cover his own foot. Once labeled, all avenues of warning other followers was shut off. Once labeled, martindale could have his way.

Since lcm "taught" twi followers his class "defeating the adversary" and the full disecting of major groups in the adv class, most complied with ANYTHING martindale said on the subject of devil spirits. He ran rough-shod over anyone and everyone. After all, he was "the authority" on how devil spirits operated!!!