Sounds like 'ol Loy Boy is wanting to come out of his little 'ol cubby hole again. Have they forgiven him? Has he found new Revelation for the 'Masses'???
Or could it be that TWI has started to run out of it's own personal TWI 'TP'for the old room with the half moon???? :D-->
Nope, nothing new. If they could take Loy's name off the book, I'm sure they would. It's very well done so they don't want to get rid of it. I would argue that it's inaccurate and often dangerous garbage based on speculation and ego, but it's very well done in that it looks scholarly and logical and reasonable.
It's funny how if you start with your conclusion and work backwards from there, you can prove just about anything you want. And if you present it forwards rather than backwards when you "teach" it to others, it will look very solid and well-reasoned - airtight to someone who doesn't have the desire or ability to look at it critically and pick it apart to see if it holds up.
That's the one thing I think LCM learned that VPW didn't always have a grip on. VPW presented his arguments from the conclusion and worked backwards, which is where the shoddy research and lack of a logical progression become glaring... if you're not inclined to worship him to begin with. Try re-rereading "Christians Should Be Prosperous" from this angle and watch how it falls apart. That is, if you didn't do the right thing and burn it.
So, they're only keeping it because it maintains the illusion of a scholarly research organization. It's a turd, but a very well-polished shiny one and TWI needs all those it can hang on to. It certainly isn't going to be coming up with any more in the future, now is it?
Negative growth rate?...sounds like one of those oxymorons that the government likes to use. Maybe it would be sufficient enough to say, that because he couldn't find his a$$ with both hands, the whole thing fell apart.
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Sounds like 'ol Loy Boy is wanting to come out of his little 'ol cubby hole again. Have they forgiven him? Has he found new Revelation for the 'Masses'???
Or could it be that TWI has started to run out of it's own personal TWI 'TP'for the old room with the half moon????
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smurfette
WHAT BOOK?
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wondering
It's about the first century church. I didn't see it, but my mom saw it.
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Raf
Welcome to the cafe, wondering.
Coffee?
Martindale wrote "Rise and Expansion of the Christian Church" ages ago. Is that the book you're talking about? Or is this new?
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WhiteDove
A sequal perhaps The Rise And Shrinkage of The Way Church.....from American Gym Press
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Trefor Heywood
I think that courtroom judge managed more rise and expansion than Martindale ever did!
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Wondering,
I bet you saw a copy of "Rise and Expansion of the Christian Church". Maybe it was reprinted with a new revision date.
I would be quite surprised if LCM wrote any new books since being defrocked.
Please find out the name of the book you saw and let us know. It would be news indeed if Martindale has a new book out and that TWI is publishing it.
Insurgent, do you know anything about this?
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A la prochaine
Please tell me he hasn't written another book!
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Enough damage has been done!
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JustThinking
Maybe someone not on the M&A list could call the bookstore?
Pj, you may want to let someone else do it. (Just kidding!)
JT
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Hills Bro
I think the new book is " The Rise and Expansion of My Penis...How it did me In" by Loy Martindale
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Paradiseden
Hills.........very funny...thanks for a good laugh.
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Refiner
Clearly then he must have been writing about some other church.
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HA
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Refiner
He should have titled it "Instantaneous plunge into insignificance and rapid irreversible shrinkage of the church"
or somethin'
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Refiner
"The Inward implosion and sucking down the plughole of the church"
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JustThinking
Did we ever find out if there was anything new?
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I heard it was calld "Tales from the Locker Room: or How to Look Good in Tights". The Chapters are
1. How to use a diamond bit to cut a peep hole into the ladies shower
2. Interesting pickup lines for the sauna
3. Dancing in tights 101
4. 20 Steps to Running a Multi-Million Dollar Corporation into the Ground
5. So, your wife is gay?
6. How to yell effectively
7. How to use friends and .... off people
8. Distorting the Bible for fun and profit
9. Getting away with rape (Advice for basketball players and rock stars)
10. A Home in the Mountains - Singing John Denver music all the way to the bank
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Nope, nothing new. If they could take Loy's name off the book, I'm sure they would. It's very well done so they don't want to get rid of it. I would argue that it's inaccurate and often dangerous garbage based on speculation and ego, but it's very well done in that it looks scholarly and logical and reasonable.
It's funny how if you start with your conclusion and work backwards from there, you can prove just about anything you want. And if you present it forwards rather than backwards when you "teach" it to others, it will look very solid and well-reasoned - airtight to someone who doesn't have the desire or ability to look at it critically and pick it apart to see if it holds up.
That's the one thing I think LCM learned that VPW didn't always have a grip on. VPW presented his arguments from the conclusion and worked backwards, which is where the shoddy research and lack of a logical progression become glaring... if you're not inclined to worship him to begin with. Try re-rereading "Christians Should Be Prosperous" from this angle and watch how it falls apart. That is, if you didn't do the right thing and burn it.
So, they're only keeping it because it maintains the illusion of a scholarly research organization. It's a turd, but a very well-polished shiny one and TWI needs all those it can hang on to. It certainly isn't going to be coming up with any more in the future, now is it?
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wondering
OK, thanks.... so they are still reading the old book.
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Doesn't it strike you as mildly ironic that the guy whose only "research
book" was called
"Rise and Expansion of the Christian Church"
oversaw an organization thru a decade, and it experienced a
"negative growth rate" of greater than -2000% ?
And this is the BEST they can offer?
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Raf
Umm, I gould be wrong, but isn't it impossible to have a negative growth rate of greater than 100%?
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WordWolf
I forget.
Statistics was never my forte.
Will someone who IS good at statistics explain, and rephrase my
sentence into an accurate one?
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Negative growth rate?...sounds like one of those oxymorons that the government likes to use. Maybe it would be sufficient enough to say, that because he couldn't find his a$$ with both hands, the whole thing fell apart.
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