You wrote: “Your logic is so twisted and tangled and inapplicable, that sidestepping it is not possible.â€
It only looks that way to you because you are so filled with emotional reasoning about Dr and PFAL and the ministry. Some of those emotions are based on fact, but should still be gotten over. I’m rooting for your maturation.
You've convinced me of the error of my ways. We will hear more of thee later. Do come back sometime and speak more on this.
And please, talking about self-pleasure in this thread is highly inappropriate, don't you think?
quote: Have you found any verses yet to support belief in free will vs. determinism yet? ... Have you found any verses to support God having total foreknowledge yet?
No Mike, I haven't. I am not that fond of homework assignments.
But I would like to learn more about how I may continue to allow the floodgates of Satan's Prosperity to flow into my life.
quote:What if YOU are wrong, Tom? Have you considered that much? Have you considered the possibility that you have been hoodwinked and talked out of embracing a great treasure?
Well then I am in good company. And all I have to say to that is...
Mike, God is not happy with the job your doing. He doesn't approve of your behavior.
Can you afford to keep taking this chance?
It's hard to make that change, When life and love turns strange. And old.
To give a love, you gotta live a love. To live a love, you gotta be "part of". When will I see you again?
quote:Maybe you didn’t notice, but just prior to me bringing this thread back up, my “Masters..†thread was collecting ten times the number of hits as all the others on the board. You are imagining this loss of interest you mention.
Most of those hits and posts were from YOU!
quote:I think YOU are trolling me by mentioning lack of interest, when exactly the opposite is the case.
Translated: "I know you are, but what am I?"
Mike, God is not happy with the job your doing. He doesn't approve of your behavior.
Can you afford to keep taking this chance?
It's hard to make that change, When life and love turns strange. And old.
To give a love, you gotta live a love. To live a love, you gotta be "part of". When will I see you again?
Mike I decided to not answer you. I've spent many days on thinking about what you said and have watched your posts with others.
I have noticed that when you don't like what someone says you really like to put them down in a more personal way. I don't think that is very nice.
If I'm not smart or don't know much, I am very happy with what I do know and what I can learn. I am more free than I ever was in twi. I don't have to answer to you or anyone else for that matter.
What really matters to God is what is in our heart. Not how smart we are. You can spend 12 hours a day studying vpw and it will mean nothing if you don't have the heart. You will just be making a lot of sound that means nothing.
If you do not tell the truth about yourself you can not tell it about other people.
Vickles said: If I'm not smart or don't know much, I am very happy with what I do know and what I can learn. I am more free than I ever was in twi. I don't have to answer to you or anyone else for that matter.
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:)--> As far as I'm concerned, that is the most intelligent statement I've read, heard or considered about what our lives are now! Thank you Vic.
quote:What really matters to God is what is in our heart. Not how smart we are. You can spend 12 hours a day studying vpw and it will mean nothing if you don't have the heart. You will just be making a lot of sound that means nothing.
And all the knowledge of how-many-times-"Doctor"-said-stuff is just a sounding brass, and a tinkling cymbal.
I believe it has to do with mike cross-referencing himself, as usual....when in doubt quote yourself...people will notice how self-important you are...
If you've been following "Mike's" "Masters" thread, you will know that I am preparing an exposition of HOW "Mike says we are to "master" PFAL.
"Mike" recently wrote to EWB, "You will NEVER understand what I am saying until you are willing to TEMPORARILY assume I am right and THEN think it all through. If you resist the key assumptions I have made, you cannot follow my theorems."
"Mike" put forward some of his key assumptions in his early posts on this thread. I pulled it back up so I could refer to it without having to continually use the "advanced search" function, or comb through the back pages of "About the Way", three pages at a time.
I offer my apologies to all for any discomfort it may have caused.
quote:"Mike" recently wrote to EWB, "You will NEVER understand what I am saying until you are willing to TEMPORARILY assume I am right and THEN think it all through.
How come even MYke can't see that is the same as saying "If you will just forget everything you know about color, and believe that this yellow ball and this blue ball are really the same color, they will be."
Mike, God is not happy with the job you're doing. He is not pleased with your behavior.
Will you forgive me as easily as you did SL for bringing this back to the top?
The reason I did this is because I’ve been tracking a log on the number of hits this thread gets, even when it’s way down the charts. In the past 24 hours it has been hit only three times. But in the 3 days before that it was hit 70 times. Who’d a ever thunk it!
So, I just thought I’d bring this up to the top, like SL, for easier reference for those readers.
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Steve!
You've convinced me of the error of my ways. We will hear more of thee later. Do come back sometime and speak more on this.
And please, talking about self-pleasure in this thread is highly inappropriate, don't you think?
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No Mike, I haven't. I am not that fond of homework assignments.
But I would like to learn more about how I may continue to allow the floodgates of Satan's Prosperity to flow into my life.
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Oldiesman-- I SALUTE you, MAN!!! that was one of the best posts ever on this board!!!!
I have to clean off the monitor on that one.... :D-->
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how's come nobody wants me to prosper -->
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Tom Strange
Well Mikael said:
Well then I am in good company. And all I have to say to that is...Mike, God is not happy with the job your doing. He doesn't approve of your behavior.
Can you afford to keep taking this chance?
It's hard to make that change, When life and love turns strange. And old.
To give a love, you gotta live a love. To live a love, you gotta be "part of". When will I see you again?
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Then Mikael wrote:
And we all know what PLAF says about sincerity dont we?Mike, God is not happy with the job your doing. He doesn't approve of your behavior.
Can you afford to keep taking this chance?
It's hard to make that change, When life and love turns strange. And old.
To give a love, you gotta live a love. To live a love, you gotta be "part of". When will I see you again?
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And THEN Mikael said:
Most of those hits and posts were from YOU! Translated: "I know you are, but what am I?"Mike, God is not happy with the job your doing. He doesn't approve of your behavior.
Can you afford to keep taking this chance?
It's hard to make that change, When life and love turns strange. And old.
To give a love, you gotta live a love. To live a love, you gotta be "part of". When will I see you again?
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Mike I decided to not answer you. I've spent many days on thinking about what you said and have watched your posts with others.
I have noticed that when you don't like what someone says you really like to put them down in a more personal way. I don't think that is very nice.
If I'm not smart or don't know much, I am very happy with what I do know and what I can learn. I am more free than I ever was in twi. I don't have to answer to you or anyone else for that matter.
What really matters to God is what is in our heart. Not how smart we are. You can spend 12 hours a day studying vpw and it will mean nothing if you don't have the heart. You will just be making a lot of sound that means nothing.
If you do not tell the truth about yourself you can not tell it about other people.
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Vickles said: If I'm not smart or don't know much, I am very happy with what I do know and what I can learn. I am more free than I ever was in twi. I don't have to answer to you or anyone else for that matter.
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:)--> As far as I'm concerned, that is the most intelligent statement I've read, heard or considered about what our lives are now! Thank you Vic.
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Dear vickles,
I think you've got smarts where it counts.
And all the knowledge of how-many-times-"Doctor"-said-stuff is just a sounding brass, and a tinkling cymbal.Regards,
Shaz
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Steve Lortz
Just bringing this back up for ease of reference.
Love,
Steve
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Tom Strange
OH Steve L!!! how can you resurrect this thread and sign your post with "love"???? aaagggghhhh!!!
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Mike
I'm a little baffled too, Tom.
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Raf
And for the second time in history, I agree with Mike.
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alfakat
I believe it has to do with mike cross-referencing himself, as usual....when in doubt quote yourself...people will notice how self-important you are...
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Steve Lortz
If you've been following "Mike's" "Masters" thread, you will know that I am preparing an exposition of HOW "Mike says we are to "master" PFAL.
"Mike" recently wrote to EWB, "You will NEVER understand what I am saying until you are willing to TEMPORARILY assume I am right and THEN think it all through. If you resist the key assumptions I have made, you cannot follow my theorems."
"Mike" put forward some of his key assumptions in his early posts on this thread. I pulled it back up so I could refer to it without having to continually use the "advanced search" function, or comb through the back pages of "About the Way", three pages at a time.
I offer my apologies to all for any discomfort it may have caused.
Love,
Steve
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Ok SL, you're forgiven...
How come even MYke can't see that is the same as saying "If you will just forget everything you know about color, and believe that this yellow ball and this blue ball are really the same color, they will be."Mike, God is not happy with the job you're doing. He is not pleased with your behavior.
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Hi Tom,
Will you forgive me as easily as you did SL for bringing this back to the top?
The reason I did this is because I’ve been tracking a log on the number of hits this thread gets, even when it’s way down the charts. In the past 24 hours it has been hit only three times. But in the 3 days before that it was hit 70 times. Who’d a ever thunk it!
So, I just thought I’d bring this up to the top, like SL, for easier reference for those readers.
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Tom Strange
MYke, your self promotion is surpassed only by your worship for veepee...
Mike, God is not happy with the job you're doing.
He does not approve of your behavior or the behavior of those you host.
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Mike
You're right, Tom. :(-->
I am guilty.
I repent.
I won't jerk this thread back to the top ever again.
... --> oh!
Whoops! :D--> I accidently jerked it up this time.
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Mike
Why don't you take the same challenge and temporarily dump all you believe and come over to our side.
It will be like going on a secret mission and you can have fun seeing a world totally different from your own.
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Mike
def59,
Been there; done that.
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GrouchoMarxJr
Hmmm...I see a 42 page thread about vics lost teaching but who knows what you folks are talking about at this point...
Anyway...if it's been lost for 17 years, why bring that sucker back now? Let sleepin' dogs lie.
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Steve Lortz
I originally brought this thread back up to do research for
WHICH IS TO BE MASTER -
An Exposition of "Mike's" Doctrine And Practice From His Own Words, In Several Parts
Part 1 - Introduction, page 103*
Part 2 - Reformatting the Word of God, page 104*
Part 3 - The Importance of Being Mindless, page 106*
Come back to WHICH IS TO BE MASTER - ! Try it! You'll like it!
Watch for Part 4 - Every Little Breeze Seems to Whisper...! Coming soon to a "Mike" thread near you!
*Numbers refer to pages in the "Masters of the Word" thread.
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