Ex my friend, I think they come here because I have looked at many ex-sites for different cult members and I think Waydale, and GS now is probably one of the most vital and ongoing.
I welcome them. After all, we were all cult members, just different titles of the ones we belonged to.
Well thats my point WW. It would be most unfortunate if people followed me here because they saw that there was a dispute on the board, and they came to join the "fight".
What is a dub? Personally, I don't care who comes as long as they love Jesus. Yea know, just like the Doobie Brothers song, "Jesus is just all right". Really, Jesus is cool. And actually he has warned us already about fat headed religious leaders so we should not blame Jesus for them. In fact, if we follow his example, we can get on their case just like he did.
Well... as long as they don't talk with those funny accents it's OK with me... but why would they want to come here? Refiner said in the beginning he's writing a book about cults (or something to do with cults)... I don't know why anyone who hadn't been in TWI would really want to come around... but if they do... no biggie... (as long as they don't talk in those funny accents)
Tom. I am British myself, from the midlands, but reside in Oz.
I suppose that I dream about a big internet ex cult board where all former ex culties can share experiences and fight against the evils of cult abuse as a united force. If only they could tolerate each others differences.
The point I am making again is that Jesus was against cults and cult leaders too. You see, the cults get their power from fat headed religious leaders who want to lord over the common folk. They are successful in manipulating people and gain this hold on people not because of anything Jesus said, but because they are conniving low lifes with visons of grandeur and no conscience or at least really puny ones. Jesus used to argue with these power mongering scum bags all the time in the gospel records. Jesus is cool. If nothing else remember that.
Hey Mark, you have addressed me a couple of times and I have failed to respond to you. Apologies.
I agree with you that Jesus is very cool.
Unfortunately,(and Ive posted this before at GSC)the cult I was in was not Christ Centered. The divinity of Jesus was down played and he was a secondary character.So I have a lot of programming that causes me to down grade Him.
You follow?
It is not in my upbringing to venerate Christ as divine.
Mark...Jehovahs Witnesses split the Trinity into three persons With Jehovah venerated as supreme creator, Jesus a sort of glorified angel and the Holy Spirit as some vague wishy washy "force" that is scarcely mentioned.
Well Refiner... since you spent all that money on the books I guess it's OK if you talk with a funny accent... :D--> ...if anyone else with a funny accent wants to come by it'll be OK by me as long as they send me the required "donation"...
Oh... you don't have to "donate" GFO... that's just an inside joke of the TWI that the PFAL class didn't "cost" anything... but there was a required "donation"... :D-->
What's a Pommy accent? We have Trefor and he types with an accent from Wales...
That was filmed in New Zealand, so they used New Zealand movie extras.
Now the Matrix movie was made In Oz. so there are a lot of Aussie names in those movies such as Agent Smith, he is a well known ozzie actor called Hugo Weaving.
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excathedra
what do you think their motives are in coming ?
i saw your post over there about dot matrix and this site
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I dont know.
Curiosity I suppose exy.
Ive posted over there that Im resident here at the moment, so I guess theyve been "lurking" watching whats going on.
Actually "LongHauler" told me hed registered here, so thats me, Prisca of course, and LH.
So 3.
I guess GSC has got guests.
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Ex my friend, I think they come here because I have looked at many ex-sites for different cult members and I think Waydale, and GS now is probably one of the most vital and ongoing.
I welcome them. After all, we were all cult members, just different titles of the ones we belonged to.
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refiner and sunesis, this is the only ex-cult site i've really been on except for recently at the ex-dubs where refiner and prisca hang out
you lurking LH ? :)-->
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Please point out the purposes of this forum and
ask them to be mindful of its stated and
understood purposes when posting.
As a board dedicated to information and to
recovery, it may have more in common with AA than
with boards they're used to.
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Well thats my point WW. It would be most unfortunate if people followed me here because they saw that there was a dispute on the board, and they came to join the "fight".
Id rather they didnt come at all.
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Refiner:
What is a dub? Personally, I don't care who comes as long as they love Jesus. Yea know, just like the Doobie Brothers song, "Jesus is just all right". Really, Jesus is cool. And actually he has warned us already about fat headed religious leaders so we should not blame Jesus for them. In fact, if we follow his example, we can get on their case just like he did.
Peace!
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Dubs are people who say one thing while their mouths say something else.
They are also former Jehovah's Witnesses.
J-W's
J-Dubs.
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Well... as long as they don't talk with those funny accents it's OK with me... but why would they want to come here? Refiner said in the beginning he's writing a book about cults (or something to do with cults)... I don't know why anyone who hadn't been in TWI would really want to come around... but if they do... no biggie... (as long as they don't talk in those funny accents)
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Tom. I am British myself, from the midlands, but reside in Oz.
I suppose that I dream about a big internet ex cult board where all former ex culties can share experiences and fight against the evils of cult abuse as a united force. If only they could tolerate each others differences.
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ahhhhhhhh the big internet in the sky
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Refiner:
The point I am making again is that Jesus was against cults and cult leaders too. You see, the cults get their power from fat headed religious leaders who want to lord over the common folk. They are successful in manipulating people and gain this hold on people not because of anything Jesus said, but because they are conniving low lifes with visons of grandeur and no conscience or at least really puny ones. Jesus used to argue with these power mongering scum bags all the time in the gospel records. Jesus is cool. If nothing else remember that.
Gotta go back to work. Later dude.
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Hey Mark, you have addressed me a couple of times and I have failed to respond to you. Apologies.
I agree with you that Jesus is very cool.
Unfortunately,(and Ive posted this before at GSC)the cult I was in was not Christ Centered. The divinity of Jesus was down played and he was a secondary character.So I have a lot of programming that causes me to down grade Him.
You follow?
It is not in my upbringing to venerate Christ as divine.
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Mark...Jehovahs Witnesses split the Trinity into three persons With Jehovah venerated as supreme creator, Jesus a sort of glorified angel and the Holy Spirit as some vague wishy washy "force" that is scarcely mentioned.
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Well Refiner... since you spent all that money on the books I guess it's OK if you talk with a funny accent... :D--> ...if anyone else with a funny accent wants to come by it'll be OK by me as long as they send me the required "donation"...
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To me, you Yanks all have funny accents :P-->
Even Refiner has a funny Pommy accent :P-->
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The Girl From Oz
Hey Tom,
Do I have to pay a donation? All I can send ya is a kiss. Is that enough??
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Oh... you don't have to "donate" GFO... that's just an inside joke of the TWI that the PFAL class didn't "cost" anything... but there was a required "donation"... :D-->
What's a Pommy accent? We have Trefor and he types with an accent from Wales...
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Hey Tom. If you want funny accents try listening to a New Zealander.
They mix their vowel sounds up.
so when a Zealander says "Im going to the fridge to get a drink"
You hear "Am goink to thu fradge ti gat e drunk"
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yeah! like that dwarf in 'the lord of the rings'...
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That was filmed in New Zealand, so they used New Zealand movie extras.
Now the Matrix movie was made In Oz. so there are a lot of Aussie names in those movies such as Agent Smith, he is a well known ozzie actor called Hugo Weaving.
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isn't he the elf king in LOTR? I kept waiting for him to say "Well.. Mr Anderson!..."
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Yeah he is Tom.
Of course hes most famous for an ozzie film called "Priscilla queen of the desert".
Which is well worth watching, another ozzie called Guy Pierce is in that film with him. Guy Pierce was in The recent remake of "The Time Machine".
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