To me --- 98% vs. 95% vs. 85% is all the same. Where do these numbers come from, and how are they substantiated! --> --> -->
All "polls" that spout numbers, have their own special spin to them. My question would be --- "Where did vpw get his statistics", and "were they "God-breathed" :)--> :)-->
quote:It was a remarkable revelation to us who do Biblical research to discover that the vast majority of the Word of God does interpret itself right where it is written. I would estimate that from Genesis to Revelation 85 to 90 per cent of the Word of God interprets itself in the verse. (PFAL p 147)
Here, Wierwille clearly says it was just an "estimate". But who knows what it was actually based upon?
In any case, I would not take these percentages as being exact. Wirewille did not present them as being exact.
Roy,
I don't know where you got he idea that the percentage was presented as absolute fact. I suspect though that it is more about how you see things in either black or white than what was actually taught in PFAL/TWI in this particulat instance.
You may want to consider reading what was actually writen in PFAL, before you call something a "lie". This is not one of them.
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NOT a "numbers" guy myself -->
To me --- 98% vs. 95% vs. 85% is all the same. Where do these numbers come from, and how are they substantiated! --> --> -->
All "polls" that spout numbers, have their own special spin to them. My question would be --- "Where did vpw get his statistics", and "were they "God-breathed" :)--> :)-->
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Goey
Roy,
It was a figure of speech and not to be taken as mathematically exact. It's like saying, "I'm 98 percent positive" or "behind you 110 percent"
VPW used "98 percent" to simply convey the idea that the vast majority of scripture interpreted itself "in the verse".
Goey
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year2027
Hi Goey
I can see that saying it "interpreted itself in the verse" as a figure of speech
But once one adds a percent to a figure of speech they are not adding a another figure of speech but a lie
figure of speech can be understood and draw a picture to the statment spoken or wrote
But adding a percent is somthing that can be check out with math
Now I know some call that a figure of speech
but its not and its a way of boasting because one is puff up
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Raf
I'm with Goey on this, to an extent.
I'd need to refresh my memory about exactly what was said and/or written.
[This message was edited by Rafael 1969 on February 11, 2004 at 16:39.]
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oldiesman
I agree with Goey but don't with Golfie.
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Raf
Oops. thanks for the correction.
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Goey
From PFAL
Here, Wierwille clearly says it was just an "estimate". But who knows what it was actually based upon?
In any case, I would not take these percentages as being exact. Wirewille did not present them as being exact.
Roy,
I don't know where you got he idea that the percentage was presented as absolute fact. I suspect though that it is more about how you see things in either black or white than what was actually taught in PFAL/TWI in this particulat instance.
You may want to consider reading what was actually writen in PFAL, before you call something a "lie". This is not one of them.
Goey
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Oakspear
Yeah, we can find plenty of problems in PFAL without resorting to nit-picking
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice...but in practice there is
Oakspear
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year2027
Hi Goey
I see what I recalled was not right
I glad I added this to my first post because I no longer had the books
But any way thanks for helping me get that straight in my understanding
I guess it came up because I work on written a teaching on how to understand the bible for my learning
Thanks
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Microbe
I once heard that 95% of statistics are made up right on the spot!
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