Excathedra yes he did say that I did not say he lived it .
My comment was not to dot it was in general response to people who post things that were not true statements. thats all. This thread was about What was in the class, not if VPW lived up to his words. Another words this is what he said/this is what he did two different threads your actions don't change what you say just the end result.I have read many of your posts and sometimes you have said some hurtful things But beyond that I see a better side of you. You are a very funny and caring woman and I'm sorry you had to go through what you did.
Gawd, exy, can you imagine us now, at our age and experience, seeing "Uncle" Harry trying something like that on some innocent 20-year-old? I think he'd be carrying home his 'nads in a box by the time we got through with him!
quote:I have read many of your posts and sometimes you have said some hurtful things But beyond that I see a better side of you. You are a very funny and caring woman and I'm sorry you had to go through what you did.
excuse me...... i'm not sure what hurtful things you refer to......
as far as my better side.......... ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hha
Thanks for the info I will read through the other threads.
I was attempting to reply to your post only. My words were not to you or about you.But more importantly it is painfuly clear that I have hurt you it was not my intent. I am truely and deeply sorry. I'll send you a PT .
Exie being hurtful? I really can't imagine that. Haven't seen it myself.
I haven't thought about the class for a long time. I took it two times. The first time was when I was 19 years old and I think I took it the second time later in the year. I'm 46 years old now. But I do remember a lot of things in that class. At least I remember what thoughts I had during certain sections of the class. Of course it was many years ago. Now being older I have to ask myself why did they even have a class on it? What was the purpose? There wasn't too much about christian family. Which is what I thought it would be mostly about. Why did vpw say that the first sin was about masturbation? That one thought now at my age is in of by itself a sick and perverted teaching. I mean it wasn't even based on the bible but a sick perverted man talking about masturbation. Why was a man on video talking about body parts and what words that are used to describe them? Only a sick perverted man would be doing that. Why did he show pictures of people having sex and remark about the expressions on their faces? What I learned in that class I realized after reading this thread has stuck with me through the years. Wow. I didn't realize it was from this class. The only thing I can say about this class is that it was not meant to be a blessing to God's people. It was sick and perverted for vpw's pleasure. I'm sure that people have transcripts of this class but words are a lot different than the film, don't you think? Do you have the pictures that he shown with them?
I did see that movie with the two girls and the german shepard. I think most of the corps saw them. vpw loved to show it. Why would he even bring it up in the class? Was it to 'bless' everyone? Think about it.
You all can worship him if you want to. He was sick and perverted!!! We do live in a free country.
Ok!! I will not try to be a nice person...ok? I will not!!
quote:I have read many of your posts and sometimes you have said some hurtful things But beyond that I see a better side of you. You are a very funny and caring woman and I'm sorry you had to go through what you did.
sorry i am obsessive compulsive
ps. thank you vickles
BEYOND WHAT you see a better side of me ? PHOCK YOU and everyone who posts like you........
ok ?
sorry i'm really not that hard to get along with but i know what a DICK vic was...... ok ?
If I may ask, who were your words to? When I read the post in question I immediately deleted my previous post about apple butter. It was intended to be a joke. As GSC goes, I think it was rather mild as far as egging VPW.
For the record, I cannot and will not say anything nice about VPW, except that he is dead.
His so called ministry was a scam, as was he.
I need time to vent before I move on - GSC allows me to do that.
The only reason people stayed around so long,(myself 20+ years) is that he and his cohorts were Master Scammers of the highest degree.
Of course there were good things taught in TWI. No one would have lasted 3 months had there not been some attraction.
I don't think there was anything good taught in TWI that we could not have learned on our own if we had tried. I also think there was a lot of junk taught that just was a waste of out time.
WD, I understand what you were saying in your post about CF&S. I'm curious, After all that has been posted on GSC for several years, why did you choose this thread to defend VPW?
Ex I have no fight with you I think you you are a caring person but you do have a sharp sense of humor at times.all I was saying was that beyond that I see another side of you one that I and many others love.
I heard a but in there. It sounds like I love you but.....I like your hair but......your a wonderful person but......I don't think I would take that as a compliment.
Dot.....what is pt?
Ok!! I will not try to be a nice person...ok? I will not!!
Excathedra: I'm sorry about your issues. I really am. I've been sexually assaulted before. Twice, once when I was 18, once when I was 20. I lived through it but it made me feel very ASHAMED. I can still work up a pretty good rage over it from time to time. If anyone ever does that to me again, they'll need to have help. I don't care if I'm 80.
I like you because you're usually cheerful. You make me laugh and your spin on things is often light hearted; easy to be entreated. You bless so many here. I don't like thinking I had anything to do with driving that away from you today.
THIS YEAR the catholic church has gotten bad press for their priests molesting children, but we both know that they've been getting away with that crap for 1600 plus yrs. The poop himself did that stuff in Poland before he was poop and easily 3/4 of those priests that surround him at the vatican are only there because they can't serve anywhere else for the same reason. I'll bet that if a 12 yr old boy in, say, Brazil ever told authorities that he'd been molested he'd probably get the .... beat out of him. Yet all those people worship that guy.
I'm sorry if my posts ....ed you off, but I'm not sorry about my opinion. James says that the same fountain cannot issue both fresh and salt water, but the same mouth CAN issue both blessing and cursing. If you're still that vulnerable yet then maybe you should avoid some threads. I don't know what else to say.
vickles, dot wanted to tell me something on a private thread
as far as the BUT goes, white dove thinks i'm a caring person BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTT he doesn't care for my sense of humor. he doesn't realize it's the only way i 've survived in my phocking life
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ps.what is really ....ing me and dottie off is that anyone could give credence to a sexual pervert teaching a class about sex
get a phucking clue
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by the waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy mikie
the first time i met uncle harry, he grabbed both my breasts and said, "so young, so firm...."
i ran away and felt so thankful for his love for naomi. what a great husband and uncle....
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Hey Excathedra-
Thru this whole heated thread, at least I got you to smile - nice!
;)--> -smooooth-
By the way (sorry for the pun!) - what is "mwah"?
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Yeah...or a christian family
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mwah means a kiss
dottie told me to say it is a closed mouth kiss
(she can't come back on here because she's a gaylordd woman of her word)
VL christian family ha ha ha ha ha ha ha there were thousands, he was father to us all........
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Excathedra yes he did say that I did not say he lived it .
My comment was not to dot it was in general response to people who post things that were not true statements. thats all. This thread was about What was in the class, not if VPW lived up to his words. Another words this is what he said/this is what he did two different threads your actions don't change what you say just the end result.I have read many of your posts and sometimes you have said some hurtful things But beyond that I see a better side of you. You are a very funny and caring woman and I'm sorry you had to go through what you did.
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Gawd, exy, can you imagine us now, at our age and experience, seeing "Uncle" Harry trying something like that on some innocent 20-year-old? I think he'd be carrying home his 'nads in a box by the time we got through with him!
How'd THAT be for a CF&S lesson?
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And right there it is. Again.
Wierwille was a liar to put it lightly.
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excuse me...... i'm not sure what hurtful things you refer to......as far as my better side.......... ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hha
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Thanks for the info I will read through the other threads.
I was attempting to reply to your post only. My words were not to you or about you.But more importantly it is painfuly clear that I have hurt you it was not my intent. I am truely and deeply sorry. I'll send you a PT .
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Exie being hurtful? I really can't imagine that. Haven't seen it myself.
I haven't thought about the class for a long time. I took it two times. The first time was when I was 19 years old and I think I took it the second time later in the year. I'm 46 years old now. But I do remember a lot of things in that class. At least I remember what thoughts I had during certain sections of the class. Of course it was many years ago. Now being older I have to ask myself why did they even have a class on it? What was the purpose? There wasn't too much about christian family. Which is what I thought it would be mostly about. Why did vpw say that the first sin was about masturbation? That one thought now at my age is in of by itself a sick and perverted teaching. I mean it wasn't even based on the bible but a sick perverted man talking about masturbation. Why was a man on video talking about body parts and what words that are used to describe them? Only a sick perverted man would be doing that. Why did he show pictures of people having sex and remark about the expressions on their faces? What I learned in that class I realized after reading this thread has stuck with me through the years. Wow. I didn't realize it was from this class. The only thing I can say about this class is that it was not meant to be a blessing to God's people. It was sick and perverted for vpw's pleasure. I'm sure that people have transcripts of this class but words are a lot different than the film, don't you think? Do you have the pictures that he shown with them?
I did see that movie with the two girls and the german shepard. I think most of the corps saw them. vpw loved to show it. Why would he even bring it up in the class? Was it to 'bless' everyone? Think about it.
You all can worship him if you want to. He was sick and perverted!!! We do live in a free country.
Ok!! I will not try to be a nice person...ok? I will not!!
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Excathedra laugh it off if you want to but it is clear to me and I bet many others who post in here. You are a very caring person.
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ps. thank you vickles
BEYOND WHAT you see a better side of me ? PHOCK YOU and everyone who posts like you........
ok ?
sorry i'm really not that hard to get along with but i know what a DICK vic was...... ok ?
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huh? wow white dove are you trying to corner exie? wow She has got to be the most kindest poster here? What is the problem?
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white dove, what are you talking about ?
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Heck just say it WhiteDove,
Was it the blackdove thing? Or what?
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If I may ask, who were your words to? When I read the post in question I immediately deleted my previous post about apple butter. It was intended to be a joke. As GSC goes, I think it was rather mild as far as egging VPW.
For the record, I cannot and will not say anything nice about VPW, except that he is dead.
His so called ministry was a scam, as was he.
I need time to vent before I move on - GSC allows me to do that.
The only reason people stayed around so long,(myself 20+ years) is that he and his cohorts were Master Scammers of the highest degree.
Of course there were good things taught in TWI. No one would have lasted 3 months had there not been some attraction.
I don't think there was anything good taught in TWI that we could not have learned on our own if we had tried. I also think there was a lot of junk taught that just was a waste of out time.
WD, I understand what you were saying in your post about CF&S. I'm curious, After all that has been posted on GSC for several years, why did you choose this thread to defend VPW?
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i think i should get off of here
i stayed away for a few pages and then..... well i'm human....
but listen vp had a lot of problems
there are times i want to shout it to the rooftops and make you see my agony
and there are times i think why bother
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Ex I have no fight with you I think you you are a caring person but you do have a sharp sense of humor at times.all I was saying was that beyond that I see another side of you one that I and many others love.
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i have no fight with you either WD, but i don't think you understand the wierwille thing at least as far as i've been through
but that's ok
peace
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I heard a but in there. It sounds like I love you but.....I like your hair but......your a wonderful person but......I don't think I would take that as a compliment.
Dot.....what is pt?
Ok!! I will not try to be a nice person...ok? I will not!!
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Excathedra: I'm sorry about your issues. I really am. I've been sexually assaulted before. Twice, once when I was 18, once when I was 20. I lived through it but it made me feel very ASHAMED. I can still work up a pretty good rage over it from time to time. If anyone ever does that to me again, they'll need to have help. I don't care if I'm 80.
I like you because you're usually cheerful. You make me laugh and your spin on things is often light hearted; easy to be entreated. You bless so many here. I don't like thinking I had anything to do with driving that away from you today.
THIS YEAR the catholic church has gotten bad press for their priests molesting children, but we both know that they've been getting away with that crap for 1600 plus yrs. The poop himself did that stuff in Poland before he was poop and easily 3/4 of those priests that surround him at the vatican are only there because they can't serve anywhere else for the same reason. I'll bet that if a 12 yr old boy in, say, Brazil ever told authorities that he'd been molested he'd probably get the .... beat out of him. Yet all those people worship that guy.
I'm sorry if my posts ....ed you off, but I'm not sorry about my opinion. James says that the same fountain cannot issue both fresh and salt water, but the same mouth CAN issue both blessing and cursing. If you're still that vulnerable yet then maybe you should avoid some threads. I don't know what else to say.
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vickles, dot wanted to tell me something on a private thread
as far as the BUT goes, white dove thinks i'm a caring person BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTT he doesn't care for my sense of humor. he doesn't realize it's the only way i 've survived in my phocking life
that's cool
right ? we've all been somewhere
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