“In the past we have catered more to our ministry, but we have a massive property, and haven’t done a lot for Gunnison,” said Camp Gunnison General Manager Chandler Greene. “Since I’ve been here, I’ve seen a huge open door where I’ve realized just how much we could do for our community.”
They only just realise this????? Though I'm wondering what "just how much we could do for our community" really means.
Seems to me more like, they've just realised they can make more $$$ hiring out this asset that is otherwise sitting vacant.
It could be a wonderful restful space for those in physical difficulty - recovering after a long illness, cancer treatment, etc, for example. Or for FREE holidays for people in the area with little money. Can't see that happening, though.
“At the time we still had the cult stigma as a newer ministry, and followed one leader, so we were ticking all the boxes,” he said. “Then, we had a ‘compound’ that didn’t let people come in. So, looking back, we were digging our own grave.”
Still are always will be a cult.All they have done is change their tatics,will "love bomb" you with niceness til they get their hooks in ya
Green said, "At the time we still had the cult stigma as a newer ministry, and followed one leader, so we were ticking all the boxes,” he said. “Then, we had a ‘compound’ that didn’t let people come in. So, looking back, we were digging our own grave.”
The Way splintered into groups after Wierwille’s death in 1985. Membership declined, and the group was targeted by anti-cult organizations, according to a New York Times article following Wierwille’s passing. Despite the decreased following, members at Camp Gunnison continue to follow their founder’s teaching to this day, 40 years after his death."
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All I can say is that if "members at Camp Gunnison continue to follow their founder’s teaching to this day, 40 years after his death" to most people that indicates they STILL FOLLOW HIM, a proven plagiarist, who, for instance, helped himself to the contents of another man's book on the Holy Spirit and published it as his (VPW's) own work. That's just one example.
Here's my take: to continue following VPW's teaching is to continue to take him as the authority on the Bible and a lot of other things he gave his opinions on. They're still following one man, even though he's dead. They're still the cult of VPW.
Well, we had an announcement that they're trying to sucker the new kids into working for them for free, which hasn't happened in a while. One possible question is- why did they want another free work force? One obvious answer is "because it's a free work force" but another is "because they're hiring out Camp Gunnison and they want a new roster of suckers to volunteer to work there for free so they don't have to pay the workers any salaries. The leopard hasn't changed his spots.
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waysider
Were they wrong, though?
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Nathan_Jr
It's a business opportunity for a struggling business.
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They only just realise this????? Though I'm wondering what "just how much we could do for our community" really means.
Seems to me more like, they've just realised they can make more $$$ hiring out this asset that is otherwise sitting vacant.
It could be a wonderful restful space for those in physical difficulty - recovering after a long illness, cancer treatment, etc, for example. Or for FREE holidays for people in the area with little money. Can't see that happening, though.
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Great to see you, Belle. It's been a long time.
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I see you haven't lost your sense of humour.
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“At the time we still had the cult stigma as a newer ministry, and followed one leader, so we were ticking all the boxes,” he said. “Then, we had a ‘compound’ that didn’t let people come in. So, looking back, we were digging our own grave.”
Still are always will be a cult.All they have done is change their tatics,will "love bomb" you with niceness til they get their hooks in ya
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In case you don't know, Green is the son of Bill and Marcia Green on the Board of Directors of TWI in Ohio:
Board of Directors
Rev. Vern Edwards
Rev. Steve Crommett
Rev. Bill Greene
Dr. Angela Priester
Rev. Mel Privette
Founding President
Dr. Victor Paul Wierwille
Green said, "At the time we still had the cult stigma as a newer ministry, and followed one leader, so we were ticking all the boxes,” he said. “Then, we had a ‘compound’ that didn’t let people come in. So, looking back, we were digging our own grave.”
The Way splintered into groups after Wierwille’s death in 1985. Membership declined, and the group was targeted by anti-cult organizations, according to a New York Times article following Wierwille’s passing. Despite the decreased following, members at Camp Gunnison continue to follow their founder’s teaching to this day, 40 years after his death."
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All I can say is that if "members at Camp Gunnison continue to follow their founder’s teaching to this day, 40 years after his death" to most people that indicates they STILL FOLLOW HIM, a proven plagiarist, who, for instance, helped himself to the contents of another man's book on the Holy Spirit and published it as his (VPW's) own work. That's just one example.
Here's my take: to continue following VPW's teaching is to continue to take him as the authority on the Bible and a lot of other things he gave his opinions on. They're still following one man, even though he's dead. They're still the cult of VPW.
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Ya might be in a cult if:
The leader has a "vision" spaysul to them
The leader gives no specifics until years later
His works were learnt from others thru plagiarizing
The leader tapped into a nation wide revival
The so called system of learning again was taken from others
The leader starts to "cancel" popular holidays and events making them unique to the group
Finally tribute is excessive or burdensome as "free will tithes. Participation is manatorry.Ya might be in a cult.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck well ya figure it out. Peace
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Hi Belle! Hope you're well and feel good...
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Nathan_Jr
“His works were learnt from others thru plagiarizing“
Not quite. Though I get the point, it has been shown he didn’t understand what he was plagiarizing, hence the ill-fitting… well, you know.
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Hi, Belle!
Well, we had an announcement that they're trying to sucker the new kids into working for them for free, which hasn't happened in a while. One possible question is- why did they want another free work force? One obvious answer is "because it's a free work force" but another is "because they're hiring out Camp Gunnison and they want a new roster of suckers to volunteer to work there for free so they don't have to pay the workers any salaries. The leopard hasn't changed his spots.
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modcat5
NO POLITICS.
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I agree!! Hope you are well! Missed you.
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