I don't think I was looking for a particular video/response. I just wanted to see if anyone remembered bringing him up and asking me for my thoughts. I cannot remember if the conversation I had was about him or someone else, or even if was here at GSC or some other site.
I understand how you might remember him as being "refreshingly honest about his approach to the evidence he has." His premise concerning the study of the bible is "data over dogma." McClellan thinks it's normal that there should be actual contradictions in the bible and the problem with accepting this is because so many Christians are stuck on the mistaken concept of "univocality." This minute-long video is about his viewpoint on the book of Mormon. It's noteworthy since according to his "About Me" web page, he "worked as a scripture translation supervisor for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Salt Lake City from 2013–2023 and have occasionally taught courses at Brigham Young University as an adjunct instructor."
On one of McClellan's podcast called "The Genesis of Genesis" with David Carr, they talk about the creation story in Genesis 2 being written before the one in Genesis 1. Each one was composed by a separate group of people (non-priestly and priestly respectively) who had their own perception of God. Possible explanation(s) for why both stories ended up being in the bible instead of one winning over the other is also given.
Trying to remember if someone tried to turn me on to these videos some time ago.
Last May I reference him once on Charity’s Deconconversiob thread. The comment got no traction then, but maybe you saw it and this is what you are now trying to remember.
Last May I reference him once on Charity’s Deconconversiob thread. The comment got no traction then, but maybe you saw it and this is what you are now trying to remember.
It didn't get traction at the time, but the seed was planted in Raf's mind - thank you for that.
I'm curious to know more about McClellan's faith as a believer given his scholarly positions on parts of the Old Testament. I'm searching now for some videos he's done on the New Testament.
It didn't get traction at the time, but the seed was planted in Raf's mind - thank you for that.
I'm curious to know more about McClellan's faith as a believer given his scholarly positions on parts of the Old Testament. I'm searching now for some videos he's done on the New Testament.
Well, he claims to be Mormon. Pretty easy to find out about that.
i've never seen him expand on his personal theology. I think he intentionally avoids it, at least on IG and YT. He usually presents scholarly consensus and sometimes points to alternative perspectives outside the consensus. He seems to be a serious student of Hebrew, it's all very academic. I agree with Raf that he is fair and even-handed. I don't think what he presents is controversial or radical.
Trying to remember if someone tried to turn me on to these videos some time ago.
This guy has been popping up on my Facebook feed A LOT as a scholar of the Bible and religion.
He comes from a Mormon background, which initially made me suspicious, but he seems to be refreshingly honest about his approach to the evidence he has.
Anyone have thoughts?
Yes! Thank you thank you thank you for bringing up some of his research. He's good... and he may be a Preterist. He handles the Book of Revelation as it should have been handled all along... a piece about the First Century ONLY. In this video, he shows the folly of a futurist preacher misinterpreting scripture. Enjoy:
Yes! Thank you thank you thank you for bringing up some of his research. He's good... and he may be a Preterist. He handles the Book of Revelation as it should have been handled all along... a piece about the First Century ONLY. In this video, he shows the folly of a futurist preacher misinterpreting scripture. Enjoy:
He gives a lot of info/data in this video and from the others that I've watched so far - it's all new to my ears and a lot to consider. I very much appreciate his response to people who see the suffering going on in the world today as joyful signs of the imminent rapture of the church (@ the 6:30 point).
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The name is new to me. I've picked one of his podcasts to watch (Episode 6 of the Data Over Dogma Podcast, “God Breathed?”).
Any specific evidence you'd like to bring up here?
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BTW, here's McClellan's website:
Daniel McClellan
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I don't think I was looking for a particular video/response. I just wanted to see if anyone remembered bringing him up and asking me for my thoughts. I cannot remember if the conversation I had was about him or someone else, or even if was here at GSC or some other site.
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I understand how you might remember him as being "refreshingly honest about his approach to the evidence he has." His premise concerning the study of the bible is "data over dogma." McClellan thinks it's normal that there should be actual contradictions in the bible and the problem with accepting this is because so many Christians are stuck on the mistaken concept of "univocality." This minute-long video is about his viewpoint on the book of Mormon. It's noteworthy since according to his "About Me" web page, he "worked as a scripture translation supervisor for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Salt Lake City from 2013–2023 and have occasionally taught courses at Brigham Young University as an adjunct instructor."
Is the Book of Mormon historical? - Dan McClellan
On one of McClellan's podcast called "The Genesis of Genesis" with David Carr, they talk about the creation story in Genesis 2 being written before the one in Genesis 1. Each one was composed by a separate group of people (non-priestly and priestly respectively) who had their own perception of God. Possible explanation(s) for why both stories ended up being in the bible instead of one winning over the other is also given.
Thanks for bringing up his name Raf.
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Last May I reference him once on Charity’s Deconconversiob thread. The comment got no traction then, but maybe you saw it and this is what you are now trying to remember.
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It didn't get traction at the time, but the seed was planted in Raf's mind - thank you for that.
I'm curious to know more about McClellan's faith as a believer given his scholarly positions on parts of the Old Testament. I'm searching now for some videos he's done on the New Testament.
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Well, he claims to be Mormon. Pretty easy to find out about that.
i've never seen him expand on his personal theology. I think he intentionally avoids it, at least on IG and YT. He usually presents scholarly consensus and sometimes points to alternative perspectives outside the consensus. He seems to be a serious student of Hebrew, it's all very academic. I agree with Raf that he is fair and even-handed. I don't think what he presents is controversial or radical.
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Yes! Thank you thank you thank you for bringing up some of his research. He's good... and he may be a Preterist. He handles the Book of Revelation as it should have been handled all along... a piece about the First Century ONLY. In this video, he shows the folly of a futurist preacher misinterpreting scripture. Enjoy:
Does the Bible prophesy about the Israel/Hamas war?
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He gives a lot of info/data in this video and from the others that I've watched so far - it's all new to my ears and a lot to consider. I very much appreciate his response to people who see the suffering going on in the world today as joyful signs of the imminent rapture of the church (@ the 6:30 point).
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