I took that class in 1974 or '75.
My collateral study was 1998-2018.
Lots of new projects going on in the past 5 years.
So you have neglected DTA? What do you mean collateral’s? Are not class syllabi collaterals?
We really need to talk specifics about your collateral idea. I mean what is the canon of the collaterals? Are there non-canonic collaterals? Like the extra books in the Catholic Bible?
You mean like teaching your toddler how to do calculus?
Yes.
And thanks for the opportunity to again INCLUDE MYSELF in all 3.
I definitely forgot some, was not mature enough for some, and was not paying attention for some. I found this out when I went back to study the collaterals in 1998. Then a few years later I could see it happened to all of us, when I came here.
I just let my toddler imitate me while I am doing calculus...he'll need it when hes mature enough...
I can trust God with that kind of future planning, but I'm not sure that plan of yours will work all that well. But the integers may be a good place to start with toddlers.
So you have neglected DTA? What do you mean collateral’s? Are not class syllabi collaterals?
We really need to talk specifics about your collateral idea. I mean what is the canon of the collaterals? Are there non-canonic collaterals? Like the extra books in the Catholic Bible?
In VPW's last, last teaching he tells us (twice) to master the foundational and the intermediate classes, and the written materials that come with them.
That is one clue to the PFAL canon. I take it to include Way Mag articles because a subscription came with the class.
I took it as very significant that this most important teaching completely fell thru the cracks. I was 15 years late in seeing it. I did an informal poll that told me 99% of all non-Corps grads had no idea it existed. I regard the extremely poor handling of this teaching to be a colossal top leadership failure, and I see it as the most clear example of a total failure by the top leadership. I regard this teaching as THE smoking gun to tell us what went wrong.
So the rough handling of this teaching is a good indication to me that it's contents are very significant. This looks like it might be another variation on this thread's theme.
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The PFAL canon has other anomalies, but I have not had time to work on them much. It is an open subject for me. I have recently mentioned this here before.
I just let my toddler imitate me while I am doing calculus...he'll need it when hes mature enough...
I just remembered that my father did something a little similar. When I was 11 years old he would ask me to help him balance his check book. I think he was really trying to give me real world practice with number crunching, and detailed inventories. He first had me order the cancelled checks by check number, then we'd compare what the bank saw with what he saw in his records. He would tell me how mom might forget to record a check at times and the associated detective work. We would double check his subtractions if it didn't balance yet, to make sure they were accurate. If the balance was off, but pretty close he "do a delta" which is Engineering terms for recording the difference and seeing what happened the next month.
The delta stuff was really mystifying, but all through the many steps involved in this I was TOTALLY in the dark as to what we were doing and why. I just focused on each step and dad's instructions. After a couple years I understood some of it.
Years later, when I got my first checking account, the deltas suddenly made sense! All the steps we took made total sense when I was ready to use it.
I was not a toddler, though. However, some people insist the balancing a checkbook is harder than calculus.
You don't burst out singing during your noon meal?
. . . I wonder how much singing helps quell doubtful thoughts
Well I might but I no longer do a noon meal...I usually eat lunch...but at a noon...roll away roll away roll away every burden...see never know when I might start
Well I might but I no longer do a noon meal...I usually eat lunch...but at a noon...roll away roll away roll away every burden...see never know when I might start
Roll away . . .
I often carry more than 3 dishes at time back to the sink now . . .
. . . And when I'm feeling really salty I just leave it all there and do whatever I want
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I just let my toddler imitate me while I am doing calculus...he'll need it when hes mature enough...
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Spiritually mature enough . . . Life is a hero's journey . . . unless it's not
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So you have neglected DTA? What do you mean collateral’s? Are not class syllabi collaterals?
We really need to talk specifics about your collateral idea. I mean what is the canon of the collaterals? Are there non-canonic collaterals? Like the extra books in the Catholic Bible?
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I tend to imitate your toddler and have regressed in calculus to the point of saying the area under the curve can find it’s own d@mn self.
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Davie Byrne stated aptly that there is water at the bottom of the ocean. As for the curve...wellll....its great!
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Yes.
And thanks for the opportunity to again INCLUDE MYSELF in all 3.
I definitely forgot some, was not mature enough for some, and was not paying attention for some. I found this out when I went back to study the collaterals in 1998. Then a few years later I could see it happened to all of us, when I came here.
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Thats what happened to me?
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I can trust God with that kind of future planning, but I'm not sure that plan of yours will work all that well. But the integers may be a good place to start with toddlers.
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In VPW's last, last teaching he tells us (twice) to master the foundational and the intermediate classes, and the written materials that come with them.
That is one clue to the PFAL canon. I take it to include Way Mag articles because a subscription came with the class.
I took it as very significant that this most important teaching completely fell thru the cracks. I was 15 years late in seeing it. I did an informal poll that told me 99% of all non-Corps grads had no idea it existed. I regard the extremely poor handling of this teaching to be a colossal top leadership failure, and I see it as the most clear example of a total failure by the top leadership. I regard this teaching as THE smoking gun to tell us what went wrong.
So the rough handling of this teaching is a good indication to me that it's contents are very significant. This looks like it might be another variation on this thread's theme.
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The PFAL canon has other anomalies, but I have not had time to work on them much. It is an open subject for me. I have recently mentioned this here before.
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Bolshevik
The Way Mag is cannon?
Do the article authors know this?
. . . Or is this like The Book of Lost Tales?
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I just remembered that my father did something a little similar. When I was 11 years old he would ask me to help him balance his check book. I think he was really trying to give me real world practice with number crunching, and detailed inventories. He first had me order the cancelled checks by check number, then we'd compare what the bank saw with what he saw in his records. He would tell me how mom might forget to record a check at times and the associated detective work. We would double check his subtractions if it didn't balance yet, to make sure they were accurate. If the balance was off, but pretty close he "do a delta" which is Engineering terms for recording the difference and seeing what happened the next month.
The delta stuff was really mystifying, but all through the many steps involved in this I was TOTALLY in the dark as to what we were doing and why. I just focused on each step and dad's instructions. After a couple years I understood some of it.
Years later, when I got my first checking account, the deltas suddenly made sense! All the steps we took made total sense when I was ready to use it.
I was not a toddler, though. However, some people insist the balancing a checkbook is harder than calculus.
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They MUST be right because everyone would insist they are wrong.
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Phenomenology
(I just learned a new word)
I think this is why nobody notices rose colored glasses.
If someone wore red . . . Would they become invisible?
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Mike
....looks like we've come full circle and completed this thread.
We can all go home now.
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Home is where the word is, according to a postcard.
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I'm definitely not going home then...at least not home according to the postcard.
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Bolshevik
this world is not my home I'm just a passing through
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Dig that...neither is new Knoxville cause according to them they're not part of the world.
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You don't burst out singing during your noon meal?
. . . I wonder how much singing helps quell doubtful thoughts
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"Noon meal" is very formal.
Why not . . . "Lunch"?
At home I have lunch. At work I have lunch.
Why the Noon meal where I listen to rants and then sing about it?
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Bolshevik
In phenomenology we become one with the fork. To Eat the noon meal.
Or something
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Yeah it's a spiritual distinction
Being absent but not absent.
May confuse the casual student of da verd.
Edited by BolshevikI never make mistakes
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Well I might but I no longer do a noon meal...I usually eat lunch...but at a noon...roll away roll away roll away every burden...see never know when I might start
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Roll away . . .
I often carry more than 3 dishes at time back to the sink now . . .
. . . And when I'm feeling really salty I just leave it all there and do whatever I want
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