I am a very distant viewer of these things, so please correct me where I am wrong, and/or fill in the gaps for me.
I realize some here prohibit this, but I don't; I made up the terms below from logic and observations. On googling them I see that my terms can only temporary, so please bear with me on this.
Also PLEASE do not draw inferences from this for application to any person we know. I am NOT trying to do that. I am trying to learn some things in a field I have profound ignorance.
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Our modern culture follows and somewhat approves of serial polygamy, or one wife at a time. For a while, the main place where it was prohibited was the U.S. Presidency, but that ended with Reagan.
Most other cultures, especially ancient, follow and approve of parallel polygamy, or many wives at the same time. I think, but am not sure, that the Bible allows this in the OT, but only if each wife is supported, and treated as equals. Sound pretty impossible to me, and if anyone has verses, I'd like to see them. I know the Bible says NT minister should not engage in this.
Our modern culture follows and somewhat approves of serial polygamy, or one wife at a time. For a while, the main place where it was prohibited was the U.S. Presidency, but that ended with Reagan.
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Most everyone is a serial monogamist. Which isn't wildly different.
So was VPW a polygamist or was he doing something else entirely?
I don't know if he was a polygamist, but it wouldn't surprise me if he admired, even envied, polygamist cults. Polyamory might be more accurate, but that implies love, so that's out...
I think he just really liked bonking women who would otherwise be out of his league, if it weren't for the manipulative, controlling cult he established.
To me, it seems to be about entitlement. Not just all women belong to the king, but all everything... the money, the cigarettes, the attention, the devotion, the blind allegiance, the freedom, the power, the whimsical, nonsensical interpretations....
I don't know if he was a polygamist, but it wouldn't surprise me if he admired, even envied, polygamist cults. Polyamory might be more accurate, but that implies love, so that's out...
I think he just really liked bonking women who would otherwise be out of his league, if it weren't for the manipulative, controlling cult he established.
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Looking into polyamory . . . not sure there's "love" or "depth" . . . they have to spend a lot of time talking to each other and talking to each other and talking and then communicating. Because jealousy. There's a lot of manipulation involved. Parties are guilted or shamed into denying their emotions through "lets talk this out". It's a lot of emotionless acts.
Looking into polyamory . . . not sure there's "love" or "depth" . . . they have to spend a lot of time talking to each other and talking to each other and talking and then communicating. Because jealousy. There's a lot of manipulation involved. Parties are guilted or shamed into denying their emotions through "lets talk this out". It's a lot of emotionless acts.
Sounds like TWIG fellowship to me . . .
When you put it that way, it sounds exactly like my twig fellowship built on the shoulders of victor paul wierwille.
Polyamorous relationships are difficult to grasp, because of jealousy. Jealousy has no place in such a relationship. I don't know anyone in a polyamorous relationship. They might only exist in the imagination.
When you put it that way, it sounds exactly like my twig fellowship built on the shoulders of victor paul wierwille.
Polyamorous relationships are difficult to grasp, because of jealousy. Jealousy has no place in such a relationship. I don't know anyone in a polyamorous relationship. They might only exist in the imagination.
Maybe sounds Cryptic, but polycules have made the news. Which to me sounds like the Borg Cube. Where assimilation is currency, and no boundaries are everybody's business model.
Maybe sounds Cryptic, but polycules have made the news. Which to me sounds like the Borg Cube. Where assimilation is currency, and no boundaries are everybody's business model.
Had to look up polycule. I like the word, but I doubt the concept is novel. I may have been a constituent to a polycule or two in my twenties - should think about that some more.
Had to look up Borg Cube, too.... still don't get it.
Had to look up polycule. I like the word, but I doubt the concept is novel. I may have been a constituent to a polycule or two in my twenties - should think about that some more.
Had to look up Borg Cube, too.... still don't get it.
Ok. I get it now. Yeah, and SBF. Gross. That’s another fraudster who could have stood on the shoulders of victor paul wierwille.
I wasn’t a part of a polycule like SBF and FTX. I was thinking more simply: A is dating B and C, but B and C are not dating, and all three are friends. Something like that. Maybe that’s not a polycule.
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I wasn’t a part of a polycule like SBF and FTX. I was thinking more simply: A is dating B and C, but B and C are not dating, and all three are friends. Something like that. Maybe that’s not a polycule.
Or maybe I just Ike the word and am trying to MAKE it fit like a hand in a glove so I can feel cooler about my fantastical self than I actually am as I get older.
Or maybe I just Ike the word and am trying to MAKE it fit like a hand in a glove so I can feel cooler about my fantastical self than I actually am as I get older.
If the glove doesn't fit, don't acquit, . . . . just build a new language around it.
Or maybe I just Ike the word and am trying to MAKE it fit like a hand in a glove so I can feel cooler about my fantastical self than I actually am as I get older.
6 minutes ago, Bolshevik said:
If the glove doesn't fit, don't acquit, . . . . just build a new language around it.
There’s at least one charismatic catholic posting here who apologizes for child rape and pedophilia in the church by euphemistically calling it a “sodomitic session.”
I wonder how victor paul wierwille and his grads would counsel a victim of pedophilia or child rape? Would they say, If it’s done in love…
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It's called presentism, as the video below explains:
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Do your own bloody research. Don't you have a concordance?
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I am a very distant viewer of these things, so please correct me where I am wrong, and/or fill in the gaps for me.
I realize some here prohibit this, but I don't; I made up the terms below from logic and observations. On googling them I see that my terms can only temporary, so please bear with me on this.
Also PLEASE do not draw inferences from this for application to any person we know. I am NOT trying to do that. I am trying to learn some things in a field I have profound ignorance.
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Our modern culture follows and somewhat approves of serial polygamy, or one wife at a time. For a while, the main place where it was prohibited was the U.S. Presidency, but that ended with Reagan.
Most other cultures, especially ancient, follow and approve of parallel polygamy, or many wives at the same time. I think, but am not sure, that the Bible allows this in the OT, but only if each wife is supported, and treated as equals. Sound pretty impossible to me, and if anyone has verses, I'd like to see them. I know the Bible says NT minister should not engage in this.
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Most everyone is a serial monogamist. Which isn't wildly different.
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I don't get that. Serial refers to more than one but one at a time.
Unless it is a joke
That would make it wildly different than the serious stuff.
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Most people do not pair for life. Men have access to many women throughout their life. And visa versa.
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Think series. Serial monogamy is accurate. Most people are in one monogamous relationship after another.
Serial polygamy? A stretch, but theoretically possible. I can conceive of it. I wonder if it's ever happened.
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I don't know if he was a polygamist, but it wouldn't surprise me if he admired, even envied, polygamist cults. Polyamory might be more accurate, but that implies love, so that's out...
I think he just really liked bonking women who would otherwise be out of his league, if it weren't for the manipulative, controlling cult he established.
To me, it seems to be about entitlement. Not just all women belong to the king, but all everything... the money, the cigarettes, the attention, the devotion, the blind allegiance, the freedom, the power, the whimsical, nonsensical interpretations....
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Looking into polyamory . . . not sure there's "love" or "depth" . . . they have to spend a lot of time talking to each other and talking to each other and talking and then communicating. Because jealousy. There's a lot of manipulation involved. Parties are guilted or shamed into denying their emotions through "lets talk this out". It's a lot of emotionless acts.
Sounds like TWIG fellowship to me . . .
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I think adulterer works.
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When you put it that way, it sounds exactly like my twig fellowship built on the shoulders of victor paul wierwille.
Polyamorous relationships are difficult to grasp, because of jealousy. Jealousy has no place in such a relationship. I don't know anyone in a polyamorous relationship. They might only exist in the imagination.
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Maybe sounds Cryptic, but polycules have made the news. Which to me sounds like the Borg Cube. Where assimilation is currency, and no boundaries are everybody's business model.
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Had to look up polycule. I like the word, but I doubt the concept is novel. I may have been a constituent to a polycule or two in my twenties - should think about that some more.
Had to look up Borg Cube, too.... still don't get it.
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OldSkool
Polly cool though
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borg . . . entered links above too
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waysider
He was an unremorseful skirt chaser.
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Yeah he was probably dead in the cradle. But others have suggested he was not alone. What was the kissing ministry?
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Ok. I get it now. Yeah, and SBF. Gross. That’s another fraudster who could have stood on the shoulders of victor paul wierwille.
I wasn’t a part of a polycule like SBF and FTX. I was thinking more simply: A is dating B and C, but B and C are not dating, and all three are friends. Something like that. Maybe that’s not a polycule.
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Bolshevik
Twilight?
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Ha ha!! Maybe!
Or maybe I just Ike the word and am trying to MAKE it fit like a hand in a glove so I can feel cooler about my fantastical self than I actually am as I get older.
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If the glove doesn't fit, don't acquit, . . . . just build a new language around it.
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The kissing starts at 6:25
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Those papers are dated early 1980s. They clearly got that information from . . . the internet.
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Pedophilia
That's another word.
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A vile word.
There’s at least one charismatic catholic posting here who apologizes for child rape and pedophilia in the church by euphemistically calling it a “sodomitic session.”
I wonder how victor paul wierwille and his grads would counsel a victim of pedophilia or child rape? Would they say, If it’s done in love…
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