The 4 Gospels teach us about the PAST ministry of Jesus, here on earth, addressed to the children of Israel.
The 7 Church Epistles teach us about the PRESENT ministry of Jesus, seated at the right hand of God, and addressed to us.
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Those who point new Christian babes to the 4 Gospels first to are misdirecting them AWAY from the ONLY mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.
. . . . Cause people can't just peruse a book at their leisure . . . nobody goes beyond what they are pointed toward
The 4 Gospels teach us about the PAST ministry of Jesus, here on earth, addressed to the children of Israel.
The 7 Church Epistles teach us about the PRESENT ministry of Jesus, seated at the right hand of God, and addressed to us.
*/*/*/*/*/*/*
Those who point new Christian babes to the 4 Gospels first tooare misdirecting them AWAY from the ONLY mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.
Can’t stop constructing windmills out of nothing can you?
It must be some hate filled logic that indicates pointing anyone TOWARDS accounts of Christ as misdirecting them AWAY from Christ.
Talking down to someone else with cult elitist logic is definitely not Christ like.
Your opinion about what scriptures teach us about is just that - your opinion.
Part of your problem is that you don’t see the ministry of our Lord and Savior as directed to you. So you denigrate His words as to a different nation and time.
Practically in TWI “for our learning” is equivalent to “ignore and don’t pay any attention to”. Unless it’s the tithe where you need to construct many dispensations of jumping to keep the obligation going in your followers.
The 4 Gospels teach us about the PAST ministry of Jesus, here on earth, addressed to the children of Israel.
wrong...wrong...and....wrong. The gospels give a witness to Christs ministry so we know what happened and to give us an example of how he walked. In 1 John says we ought to walk even as he walked...well...no other records show how he walked except the gospels. Ditch the dispensationalism...it blinds you to sections of scripture you need for your walk.
If Christ Jesus is sitting at the right hand of God, and Christ Jesus is absent, God must be absent, according to this logic.
Your problem is hyper-abbreviation here.
You are leaving out stuff.
Yes, God is absent in this sense of the word, but it is PHYSICAL absence only. That is the reason it was so important the the Word was made flesh, in Jesus.
Jesus is only temporarily absent, and will once again be present in the flesh.
Right now, the reason Jesus became absent was to UPGRADE his ministry from physical to spiritual. His absence from the world but presence within us now is an upgrade.
Jesus is now absent from the world, but present in us.
God is now absent from the world, but preset in us.
Both God and Jesus are present spiritually, and totally aware of all that goes on. They are capable of intervening in the physical, while awaiting his Return.
Your problem is hyper-abbreviation here.
You are leaving out stuff.
Yes, God is absent in this sense of the word, but it is PHYSICAL absence only. That is the reason it was so important the the Word was made flesh, in Jesus.
Jesus is only temporarily absent, and will once again be present in the flesh.
Right now, the reason Jesus became absent was to UPGRADE his ministry from physical to spiritual. His absence from the world but presence within us now is an upgrade.
Jesus is now absent from the world, but present in us.
God is now absent from the world, but preset in us.
Both God and Jesus are present spiritually, and totally aware of all that goes on. They are capable of intervening in the physical, while awaiting his Return.
Sooo . . . spiritual is a LOCATION? God and Jesus move from one place to another? Physical to spiritual?
I always thought this guy was sneaking a fart based on his body language. But maybe he's a doer of the Turd, and not a hearer only?
1 hour ago, Nathan_Jr said:
What’s wrong with his left hand? Was that imaginary Hindu he healed contagious?
1 hour ago, Bolshevik said:
He doesn't believe in Jesus.
Multiple choice on what’s the deal with wierwille’s left hand:
A.In the weird world of tit-for-tat, since wierwille couldn’t heal that India guy’s lame arm, India guy broke wierwille’s left hand
B.Practicing pocket pool during the photo shoot
C.Hand signal code: I’m pinching a loaf at this very moment
D.Classic right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing illustration: pseudo-Christian cult-leader has Bible in right hand while holding a Roofie in the left hand.
E.Trying to hide the fact that he often consults the pendant (note chain across vest)
F.Giving a subliminal message that his ovaries hurt
wrong...wrong...and....wrong. The gospels give a witness to Christs ministry so we know what happened and to give us an example of how he walked. In 1 John says we ought to walk even as he walked...well...no other records show how he walked except the gospels. Ditch the dispensationalism...it blinds you to sections of scripture you need for your walk.
I completely agree with what I bold fonted above.
There most certainly ARE other records of how Jesus walked. We can look to the walking OT examples from whom young Jesus learned to walk. We can learn from Paul's walk, where he was right-on. John has lots of teaching on the Jesus-like walk in his Epistles surrounding the one sentence you cited.
You are misinformed if you think I have not made a regular habit of learning from Jesus past ministry and his walk among people, personally. I continually learn from scriptures not directly addressed to me.
Your problem is hyper-abbreviation here.
You are leaving out stuff.
Yes, God is absent in this sense of the word, but it is PHYSICAL absence only. That is the reason it was so important the the Word was made flesh, in Jesus.
Jesus is only temporarily absent, and will once again be present in the flesh.
Right now, the reason Jesus became absent was to UPGRADE his ministry from physical to spiritual. His absence from the world but presence within us now is an upgrade.
Jesus is now absent from the world, but present in us.
God is now absent from the world, but preset in us.
Both God and Jesus are present spiritually, and totally aware of all that goes on. They are capable of intervening in the physical, while awaiting his Return.
See absence doesn’t mean absence but presence as “an upgrade”.
Prior to PLAFT where we learned to rote mouth Rom 10:9,10 to receive the
Iron Man X 2.0 version Holy Spirit suit “sorry autocorrect keeps capitalizing”.
God and Jesus are there talking to each other and present in you as the suit designers.
All you need to do is walk around muttering to yourself in tongues to build yourself up spiritually for greater things like going Way Ambassador or Corps.
Clear all my little lemmings? Ready to rush the cliffs?
quote: If Christ Jesus is sitting at the right hand of God, and Christ Jesus is absent, God must be absent, according to this logic.
This glassy eyed clown thinks he understands logic. God isn't absent from anything; he's everywhere. Christ is absent from us. He said it is expedient that I go away. If he went away he is absent. His power isn't absent, but he is. We don't know him after the flesh, remember?
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. . . . Cause people can't just peruse a book at their leisure . . . nobody goes beyond what they are pointed toward
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He looks so pleased with himself while dropping that deuce, but to your point, it’s a holy deuce…. so, justifiable pride, like barn jumping.
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"pride goeth" suddenly took on new meaning
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Nope. Not if you’re a mere unprogrammed Christian babe.
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Can’t stop constructing windmills out of nothing can you?
It must be some hate filled logic that indicates pointing anyone TOWARDS accounts of Christ as misdirecting them AWAY from Christ.
Talking down to someone else with cult elitist logic is definitely not Christ like.
Your opinion about what scriptures teach us about is just that - your opinion.
Part of your problem is that you don’t see the ministry of our Lord and Savior as directed to you. So you denigrate His words as to a different nation and time.
Practically in TWI “for our learning” is equivalent to “ignore and don’t pay any attention to”. Unless it’s the tithe where you need to construct many dispensations of jumping to keep the obligation going in your followers.
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If Christ Jesus is sitting at the right hand of God, and Christ Jesus is absent, God must be absent, according to this logic.
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OldSkool
Id have to go with floating an air biscuit.
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chockfull
Aren’t absent fathers one of the main problems with society nowadays?
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wrong...wrong...and....wrong. The gospels give a witness to Christs ministry so we know what happened and to give us an example of how he walked. In 1 John says we ought to walk even as he walked...well...no other records show how he walked except the gospels. Ditch the dispensationalism...it blinds you to sections of scripture you need for your walk.
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Who are the children of Israel in relation to Christ's ministry as recorded in the Gospels?
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Nathan_Jr
Yep
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If an A/V guy is sitting at the right hand of the music coordinator, and the A/V guy is absent, mustn’t the music coordinator be absent also?
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Daddy left, Jesus right, Our Fodder in The Turd Says do not pass Go
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Your problem is hyper-abbreviation here.
You are leaving out stuff.
Yes, God is absent in this sense of the word, but it is PHYSICAL absence only. That is the reason it was so important the the Word was made flesh, in Jesus.
Jesus is only temporarily absent, and will once again be present in the flesh.
Right now, the reason Jesus became absent was to UPGRADE his ministry from physical to spiritual. His absence from the world but presence within us now is an upgrade.
Jesus is now absent from the world, but present in us.
God is now absent from the world, but preset in us.
Both God and Jesus are present spiritually, and totally aware of all that goes on. They are capable of intervening in the physical, while awaiting his Return.
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Sooo . . . spiritual is a LOCATION? God and Jesus move from one place to another? Physical to spiritual?
If I'm a three part being, then Where's Waldo?
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Multiple choice on what’s the deal with wierwille’s left hand:
A. In the weird world of tit-for-tat, since wierwille couldn’t heal that India guy’s lame arm, India guy broke wierwille’s left hand
B. Practicing pocket pool during the photo shoot
C. Hand signal code: I’m pinching a loaf at this very moment
D. Classic right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing illustration: pseudo-Christian cult-leader has Bible in right hand while holding a Roofie in the left hand.
E. Trying to hide the fact that he often consults the pendant (note chain across vest)
F. Giving a subliminal message that his ovaries hurt
G. All of the above
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quote: Start a new thread rocket scientist. Threads are how to keep discussions focused on a certain direction.
Like this one?
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I completely agree with what I bold fonted above.
There most certainly ARE other records of how Jesus walked. We can look to the walking OT examples from whom young Jesus learned to walk. We can learn from Paul's walk, where he was right-on. John has lots of teaching on the Jesus-like walk in his Epistles surrounding the one sentence you cited.
You are misinformed if you think I have not made a regular habit of learning from Jesus past ministry and his walk among people, personally. I continually learn from scriptures not directly addressed to me.
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figuratively, yes
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See absence doesn’t mean absence but presence as “an upgrade”.
Prior to PLAFT where we learned to rote mouth Rom 10:9,10 to receive the
Iron Man X 2.0 version Holy Spirit suit “sorry autocorrect keeps capitalizing”.
God and Jesus are there talking to each other and present in you as the suit designers.
All you need to do is walk around muttering to yourself in tongues to build yourself up spiritually for greater things like going Way Ambassador or Corps.
Clear all my little lemmings? Ready to rush the cliffs?
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quote: If Christ Jesus is sitting at the right hand of God, and Christ Jesus is absent, God must be absent, according to this logic.
This glassy eyed clown thinks he understands logic. God isn't absent from anything; he's everywhere. Christ is absent from us. He said it is expedient that I go away. If he went away he is absent. His power isn't absent, but he is. We don't know him after the flesh, remember?
Y'all have a nice Christmas.
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OldSkool
Christ is no longer flesh and blood but a life giving spirit. So no, he's not absent hes changed and is second in command to God Almighty.
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Is the creation qualified to define the creator? Absent != everywhere present.
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T-Bone
for a more thorough discussion see The absent Christ? thread
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