quote: Rather than speaking in broad generalities, give us specifics of you claim. You can start by telling us what good Saint Vic did.
PFAL, Receiving the holy spirit today, Christians should be prosperous, the bible tells me so, the new dynamic church, the word's way, God's magnified word, Order my steps in thy word, Jesus Christ is not God, are the dead alive now, Jesus Christ our passover, Jesus Christ our promised seed, and all things he did in support of all that.
quote: Rather than speaking in broad generalities, give us specifics of you claim. You can start by telling us what good Saint Vic did.
PFAL, Receiving the holy spirit today, Christians should be prosperous, the bible tells me so, the new dynamic church, the word's way, God's magnified word, Order my steps in thy word, Jesus Christ is not God, are the dead alive now, Jesus Christ our passover, Jesus Christ our promised seed, and all things he did in support of all that.
I dunno...didn't the research department write quite a few of those and others are editors compilations?....anyone?
quote: Rather than speaking in broad generalities, give us specifics of you claim. You can start by telling us what good Saint Vic did.
PFAL, Receiving the holy spirit today, Christians should be prosperous, the bible tells me so, the new dynamic church, the word's way, God's magnified word, Order my steps in thy word, Jesus Christ is not God, are the dead alive now, Jesus Christ our passover, Jesus Christ our promised seed, and all things he did in support of all that.
You mean all the works--and livelihoods--he stole from other people?
Yah, he did good for himself; bad for the people he ripped off.
Thanks. So John S. Isn’t a research superstar after all.
I haven’t read Juedes’ refutation, but it’s not hard to do. I worked it myself. Four crucified is a willfully ignorant proposition.
johniam wrote that 'Christians should be prosperous' was one of the good things vp did. That one I did work out for myself and it was one of the main reasons I left in '86 after being accused by some high-rank leader that I was professing to know more than vp and who then walked away like I wasn't worth his time.
I might look into '4 crucified' on my own after all.
after being accused by some high-rank leader that I was professing to know more than vp and who then walked away like I wasn't worth his time.
This is such a typical, childish cop out maneuver. Anyone serious about real, honest research would be happy to have a an honest discussion about it.
Arriving at a different conclusion doesn't mean one thinks they know more than somebody. It just means one is no longer convinced of the other's proposition. That leader, imitating victor, was likely too embarrassed of his own ineptitude (again, imitating victor) that all he could do was deflect and pout (again, imitating victor).
johniam wrote that 'Christians should be prosperous' was one of the good things vp did. That one I did work out for myself and it was one of the main reasons I left in '86 after being accused by some high-rank leader that I was professing to know more than vp and who then walked away like I wasn't worth his time.
I might look into '4 crucified' on my own after all.
Charity, I would encourage you to read widely and deeply on GSC. Many dozens of victor's asserted claims have been refuted with evidence here. Current posters have convincingly refuted victor's quackery, as have others who aren't so regular anymore, like Raf and Skyrider and Penworks... (and others I can't recall at this moment.)
There is nothing to fear, including the possibility of being wrong. When one first admits to not knowing and embraces that not knowing, so much will be revealed that was previously unseen by smug, all-knowing eyes.
When one admits to knowing nothing, one can know so much. A paradox.
Charity, I would encourage you to read widely and deeply on GSC. Many dozens of victor's asserted claims have been refuted with evidence here. Current posters have convincingly refuted victor's quackery, as have others who aren't so regular anymore, like Raf and Skyrider and Penworks... (and others I can't recall at this moment.)
There is nothing to fear, including the possibility of being wrong. When one first admits to not knowing and embraces that not knowing, so much will be revealed that was previously unseen by smug, all-knowing eyes.
When one admits to knowing nothing, one can know so much. A paradox.
quote: Rather than speaking in broad generalities, give us specifics of you claim. You can start by telling us what good Saint Vic did.
PFAL, Receiving the holy spirit today, Christians should be prosperous, the bible tells me so, the new dynamic church, the word's way, God's magnified word, Order my steps in thy word, Jesus Christ is not God, are the dead alive now, Jesus Christ our passover, Jesus Christ our promised seed, and all things he did in support of all that.
#1 and #2 good plagiarism, #3 keep that revenue stream coming in, #4 -#7 thanks for the sermon notes Rhoda, #8 and #9 ecumenical doesn’t pay the bills, #10,#11 undertow City.
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I can't even say i was on the president's cabinet with a straight face....comedy
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Great pic of the auditorium!
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I’d keep it foundational, Biblically derivative.
With this in mind, the only REAL way to know is to deliver a beating. If she doesn’t die within two days, she’s innocent.
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According to the Duluth Model. . . Use Doordash when request a sandwich
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Wrong administration. You're confused about to/for.
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Is this were someone weighs a duck?
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That duck weighs itself.
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But we don't burn the duck. It just sits there.
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You FINALLY got it right! So, so right!
The duck just sits there... like a duck.
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quote: Rather than speaking in broad generalities, give us specifics of you claim. You can start by telling us what good Saint Vic did.
PFAL, Receiving the holy spirit today, Christians should be prosperous, the bible tells me so, the new dynamic church, the word's way, God's magnified word, Order my steps in thy word, Jesus Christ is not God, are the dead alive now, Jesus Christ our passover, Jesus Christ our promised seed, and all things he did in support of all that.
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I dunno...didn't the research department write quite a few of those and others are editors compilations?....anyone?
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You mean all the works--and livelihoods--he stole from other people?
Yah, he did good for himself; bad for the people he ripped off.
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I think he’s more warring with his own windmills than GSC. I don’t care if he goes on and on disconnected from his audience and reality.
If he holds his breath until TWI gets back to him on the ECNs it would go faster
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John S. continues to teach four crucified.
https://spiritandtruthonline.org/resources/the-four-men-crucified-with-jesus-christ/
John Juedes wrote an article that refutes it but I was too tired at the time to read it closely. I'll go back to it at some point.
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Thanks. So John S. Isn’t a research superstar after all.
I haven’t read Juedes’ refutation, but it’s not hard to do. I worked it myself. Four crucified is a willfully ignorant proposition.
Edited by Nathan_JrAlso, Earth is not flat.
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johniam wrote that 'Christians should be prosperous' was one of the good things vp did. That one I did work out for myself and it was one of the main reasons I left in '86 after being accused by some high-rank leader that I was professing to know more than vp and who then walked away like I wasn't worth his time.
I might look into '4 crucified' on my own after all.
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This is such a typical, childish cop out maneuver. Anyone serious about real, honest research would be happy to have a an honest discussion about it.
Arriving at a different conclusion doesn't mean one thinks they know more than somebody. It just means one is no longer convinced of the other's proposition. That leader, imitating victor, was likely too embarrassed of his own ineptitude (again, imitating victor) that all he could do was deflect and pout (again, imitating victor).
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Charity, I would encourage you to read widely and deeply on GSC. Many dozens of victor's asserted claims have been refuted with evidence here. Current posters have convincingly refuted victor's quackery, as have others who aren't so regular anymore, like Raf and Skyrider and Penworks... (and others I can't recall at this moment.)
There is nothing to fear, including the possibility of being wrong. When one first admits to not knowing and embraces that not knowing, so much will be revealed that was previously unseen by smug, all-knowing eyes.
When one admits to knowing nothing, one can know so much. A paradox.
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Bolshevik
Touching on the Donut-Keurig effect.
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Stretched Keurig?
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#1 and #2 good plagiarism, #3 keep that revenue stream coming in, #4 -#7 thanks for the sermon notes Rhoda, #8 and #9 ecumenical doesn’t pay the bills, #10,#11 undertow City.
I guess our perspectives differ there…
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I don't think Dunning-Kruger effect is what I'm touching on. Are you suggesting I am?
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The only thing huge there are egos. Huge and frail.
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