ah-right we cool...just next time don't interrupt me when I'm in my music zone
I love Tyson post boxing era....hes not only funny but he seems to have overcome a lot of personal demons and is somewhat more settled out from his earlier days.
110. PLAF is a gateway class to a multi-marketing style class set up.
Not only is there an Intermediate and Advanced class, there's also The Way Tree, Dealing With The Adversary, and Witnessing and Undersheparding to name a few.
110. PLAF is a gateway class to a multi-marketing style class set up.
Not only is there an Intermediate and Advanced class, there's also The Way Tree, Dealing With The Adversary, and Witnessing and Undersheparding to name a few.
Think of it in long terms…all the classes together…it’s like one big investment in yourself
112. wierwille misleadingly teaches what he thinks is true worship
In The New Dynamic Church, chapter 7, What is True Worship? Pages 81ff, wierwille starts off by quoting from John 4:
22Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
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In a previous post I quoted wierwille saying “The holy spirit field – that’s the field God raised me up for. There’s not a question that cannot be answered biblically. And there’s no one I can’t lead into speaking in tongues if they are Christian and want to do it."
I think wierwille was such an arrogant self-described holy spirit expert that he would create an extraneous idea out of a text even if it just mentioned the word “spirit”. He goes on from quoting John 4 to say true worship is speaking in tongues.
Students taking PFAL for the first time are unaware of wierwille’s knack for reading into the text.
It’s calledEisegesis (/ˌaɪsɪˈdʒiːsɪs/) the process of interpreting text in such a way as to introduce one's own presuppositions, agendas or biases. It is commonly referred to as reading into the text. It is often done to "prove" a pre-held point of concern, and to provide confirmation bias corresponding with the pre-held interpretation and any agendas supported by it.
Eisegesis is best understood when contrasted with exegesis. Exegesis is drawing out a text's meaning in accordance with the author's context and discoverable meaning. Eisegesis is when a reader imposes their interpretation of the text. Thus exegesis tends to be objective; and eisegesis, highly subjective.
I won’t bore you with mentioning anymore of wierwille’s erroneous babble. Instead, let’s consider the more obvious line of thought Jesus was talking about in John 4.
Remember humankind was made in the image and likeness of God. Rather than conforming to some external religious-looking ritual - just going through the motions.
Jesus was telling us to worship God with that part of us that is like Him – the supernatural side – and in truth - consistent with what has been revealed in Scripture.
Prayer and how we each think of God and relate to God is deeply personal…unique…indescribable…pseudo-Christian cult-leaders like to control followers and dictate what is required for religious service. That’s reason # 112 of why PFAL sucks.
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VPW's statement that the Bible interprets itself is nonsense. The act of interpretation of any text is done by the reader of the text. People interpret what they read. They are the ones who give it me
waysider
And in doing so, he was violating his own "To Whom it is Written" rule.
Charity
What I see in what you wrote Chockfull is that we were meant to have a relationship with the class - you know the one that replaced our relationship with Christ. It was our lord in that it had power,
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I love Tyson post boxing era....hes not only funny but he seems to have overcome a lot of personal demons and is somewhat more settled out from his earlier days.
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110. PLAF is a gateway class to a multi-marketing style class set up.
Not only is there an Intermediate and Advanced class, there's also The Way Tree, Dealing With The Adversary, and Witnessing and Undersheparding to name a few.
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Think of it in long terms…all the classes together…it’s like one big investment in yourself
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111. PLAF is a gateway to selling Shamway type products to all your known friends and acquaintances.
Who do you think is gonna carry out filling those salesman type quotas for the next PLAF class?
The board of directors?
Chandler from Friends?
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112. wierwille misleadingly teaches what he thinks is true worship
In The New Dynamic Church, chapter 7, What is True Worship? Pages 81ff, wierwille starts off by quoting from John 4:
22Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
~ ~ ~ ~
In a previous post I quoted wierwille saying “The holy spirit field – that’s the field God raised me up for. There’s not a question that cannot be answered biblically. And there’s no one I can’t lead into speaking in tongues if they are Christian and want to do it."
I think wierwille was such an arrogant self-described holy spirit expert that he would create an extraneous idea out of a text even if it just mentioned the word “spirit”. He goes on from quoting John 4 to say true worship is speaking in tongues.
Students taking PFAL for the first time are unaware of wierwille’s knack for reading into the text.
It’s called Eisegesis (/ˌaɪsɪˈdʒiːsɪs/) the process of interpreting text in such a way as to introduce one's own presuppositions, agendas or biases. It is commonly referred to as reading into the text. It is often done to "prove" a pre-held point of concern, and to provide confirmation bias corresponding with the pre-held interpretation and any agendas supported by it.
Eisegesis is best understood when contrasted with exegesis. Exegesis is drawing out a text's meaning in accordance with the author's context and discoverable meaning. Eisegesis is when a reader imposes their interpretation of the text. Thus exegesis tends to be objective; and eisegesis, highly subjective.
From: Eisegesis - Wikipedia
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I won’t bore you with mentioning anymore of wierwille’s erroneous babble. Instead, let’s consider the more obvious line of thought Jesus was talking about in John 4.
Remember humankind was made in the image and likeness of God. Rather than conforming to some external religious-looking ritual - just going through the motions.
Jesus was telling us to worship God with that part of us that is like Him – the supernatural side – and in truth - consistent with what has been revealed in Scripture.
Prayer and how we each think of God and relate to God is deeply personal…unique…indescribable…pseudo-Christian cult-leaders like to control followers and dictate what is required for religious service. That’s reason # 112 of why PFAL sucks.
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113. Excellor Sessions
Why in the name of the precious baby Jesus on a pogo stick do we need to practice the mechanics of faking something that God gave freely?
A-shonta
b-shonta
c-shonta
d-shonta
Oh boy I’m feeling more fluent already
And spiritually pumped up by Hanz and Franz.
Aaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnd just a little bit better than you because of my works based spirituality.
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T-Bone
say - this would fit right in on the NT canon thread with so-and-so's "literary structure" debacle abbadabbadoo
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That's known as the Bearian structur. Named after Dr. Yogi Beria
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So_crates
That verbal structure's not worth the paper it's printed on.
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T-Bone
That’s like Yogi Berra taking the PFAL class all over again
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OldSkool
But it should be worth a picnic basket at least
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OldSkool
Just like it only totally different
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waysider
Hey Boo Boo!, my little children.
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T-Bone
PFAL 1967 - PFAL 77 - PFAL Today = same bull-Shonta, different days
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So_crates
Smarter than the average natural man.
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OldSkool
Hey it's Waysider! I'm hoping you will do an encore version of Shonta Shonta Bo Fonta...number one hit right there...
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So_crates
What dispensation is this?
You mean right now?
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OldSkool
Bruh...PFLAP Today is for this day time and hour.
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OldSkool
We're living the Original Bullshonta Administration.
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chockfull
He had better Lifelines than VP
”When you come to a fork in the road take it”
”90% of baseball is mental, the other half is physical “
”Always go to other people’s funerals or they won’t come to yours”
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T-Bone
Please hold all your questions until the end of this thread
If your questions are not answered by then you can sit (or SIT) through this whole thread again free of charge
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OldSkool
They can stay as long as their money holds
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So_crates
Then it would be deja Vu all over again
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T-Bone
alright! a round of stretched coffee for everyone - Waysider is buying!
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