Mike: "Most professors will read a well written and concise letter or text. I have had a lot of luck doing that."
Hey, how about doing that here? Making your posts "well written and concise"?
That way, maybe we could all benefit. You might not get so many attacks, and everyone else might begin to understand what you're saying.
You really can't make a promise for the others like that.
Did you know that I was attacked here 2 months BEFORE my first post here? There were TWO separate threads here about me, one of which posted long quotes from a private letter written my me. The other thread about me was a poster mocking me, from a phone call I had with him.
No, the bias here and the urge for some posters to behave childishly is too great here for detailed simple discussions. I know how to discuss things in a civil way. That is often not returned in kind here.
Did you know that I was attacked here 2 months BEFORE my first post here? There were TWO separate threads here about me, one of which posted long quotes from a private letter written my me. The other thread about me was a poster mocking me, from a phone call I had with him.
It is all in the archive for you to find, if you are interested.
In other words. I'm handing you a line of bull, why don't you believe it?
Strange, you can go on for page after page about what "cloak" means in Aramaic or whether the free will is biological, but a direct question about PLAF you dodge.
Why should Waysider waste a moment of his time backing up a claim you made and refuse to back up?
I'm with Waysider, name three things in PLAF you THINK we forgot, if you can.
36. The eye cannot say to the hand I don’t need you and the head cannot say to the feet I don’t need you 1 Cor 12:21
Yet 100% of PFAL graduates move directly from the class into living in this doctrinal and practical error.
Why? Because their Bible has interpreted itself to indicate there is this extra special group called the household that is an inner Pharisee sanctum within the body of Christ that the verse is talking about.
36. The eye cannot say to the hand I don’t need you and the head cannot say to the feet I don’t need you 1 Cor 12:21
Yet 100% of PFAL graduates move directly from the class into living in this doctrinal and practical error.
Why? Because their Bible has interpreted itself to indicate there is this extra special group called the household that is an inner Pharisee sanctum within the body of Christ that the verse is talking about.
Print that in a collateral
Yep, the division.
What about the family? Isn't there a distinction between the family and the household? Maybe I'm misremembering.
See..you start out making it all sound formal and full of brainiacs and God opened these massive doors for you to study with the top neuroscientists when in reality it was so informal it didn't officially exist, so naturally having you along for the ride looked like it was all inclusive....but why exaggerate it in the first place? Joining a club is FORMAL and clobs formally exist and are recognized by the university as having FORMAL benefits to the students and such. You definately led people to believe it was something a LOT more than it actually was.....basically you were in an informal study group that didn't exist in any meaningful way as far as the university was concerned....just a group of folks getting together of which you were the tag-along-mascot kinda guy.
This isn't exactly new. There's a reason I responded to his mentioning of the group with casualness. It was going to be a LOT less than he began advertising, by the time the details arrived. Any wonder why his credibility is shot here? There's more than 1 reason.
I don't mean expound on them, I mean simply list them as such:
1.)
2.)
3.)
1 hour ago, Mike said:
It is all in the archive for you to find, if you are interested.
He's been giving the same answer the entire time he's been here. "Can you post something both brief and clear?" "*evasion*" If he had SOMETHING, there would have been SOMETHING he could whip out and say "Here's something noteworthy" and we'd be able to say "How about that, something noteworthy." He's had over 20 years to find it, so if he hasn't found it yet....
You really can't make a promise for the others like that.
Did you know that I was attacked here 2 months BEFORE my first post here? There were TWO separate threads here about me, one of which posted long quotes from a private letter written my me. The other thread about me was a poster mocking me, from a phone call I had with him.
No, the bias here and the urge for some posters to behave childishly is too great here for detailed simple discussions. I know how to discuss things in a civil way. That is often not returned in kind here.
And if there weren't, he'd have another excuse as to why he won't- he's used them for decades- but by now it's obvious he CAN'T.
(By that, I mean what he's been asked to do- be brief and clear.)
In other words. I'm handing you a line of bull, why don't you believe it?
Strange, you can go on for page after page about what "cloak" means in Aramaic or whether the free will is biological, but a direct question about PLAF you dodge.
Why should Waysider waste a moment of his time backing up a claim you made and refuse to back up?
I'm with Waysider, name three things in PLAF you THINK we forgot, if you can.
You keep asking, he'll keep dodging. Can't change his spots.
Yes the distinction boils down to whoever lives under house rules to them.
Right.
But is the family different from the household. Doesn't it get further delimited through the hierarchy - body>household>family? Or something like that?
But is the family different from the household. Doesn't it get further delimited through the hierarchy - body>household>family? Or something like that?
I'm probably misremembering or I'm just confused.
You don’t want to break into song with
so glad I’m a part of the family of God
at the same time as studying collaterals on the family / household distinction?
Yeah the doctrine is a bit mixed up and hidden but 100% lived.
But is the family different from the household. Doesn't it get further delimited through the hierarchy - body>household>family? Or something like that?
I'm probably misremembering or I'm just confused.
The enlightening part to me was when I read through the Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse book that really digs into Jesus confrontations with the Pharisees and talks about the background of the Pharisees to set up inner circle within inner circle so the top people never had to come in contact with anyone unclean.
That is the exact functioning of the Way. While teaching the doctrine of household of God versus family of God.
Bunch of idiots. Missing the forest for the trees in I Cor 12 which they spend 2 classes of endless focus on.
The enlightening part to me was when I read through the Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse book that really digs into Jesus confrontations with the Pharisees and talks about the background of the Pharisees to set up inner circle within inner circle so the top people never had to come in contact with anyone unclean.
That is the exact functioning of the Way. While teaching the doctrine of household of God versus family of God.
Bunch of idiots. Missing the forest for the trees in I Cor 12 which they spend 2 classes of endless focus on.
I recognize that it's all f'd. I'm not asking about right or wrong doctrine, just simply, which is the inner most circle of Pharasitic self-righteousness as taught by twi? The family or the household?
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VPW's statement that the Bible interprets itself is nonsense. The act of interpretation of any text is done by the reader of the text. People interpret what they read. They are the ones who give it me
waysider
And in doing so, he was violating his own "To Whom it is Written" rule.
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What I see in what you wrote Chockfull is that we were meant to have a relationship with the class - you know the one that replaced our relationship with Christ. It was our lord in that it had power,
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You really can't make a promise for the others like that.
Did you know that I was attacked here 2 months BEFORE my first post here? There were TWO separate threads here about me, one of which posted long quotes from a private letter written my me. The other thread about me was a poster mocking me, from a phone call I had with him.
No, the bias here and the urge for some posters to behave childishly is too great here for detailed simple discussions. I know how to discuss things in a civil way. That is often not returned in kind here.
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Nathan_Jr
"...it was just a group of folks (superstar brain scientists) getting together..."
Just sayin
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Anyone got the links to these?
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In other words. I'm handing you a line of bull, why don't you believe it?
Strange, you can go on for page after page about what "cloak" means in Aramaic or whether the free will is biological, but a direct question about PLAF you dodge.
Why should Waysider waste a moment of his time backing up a claim you made and refuse to back up?
I'm with Waysider, name three things in PLAF you THINK we forgot, if you can.
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waysider
I'm not asking you where to find them. I'm asking you to simply list them.
This ought to be a piece of cake for someone who's spent 20 years studying them.
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Nathan_Jr
Does anyone know if Mike has children? I'd ask Mike directly, if I thought I could get a direct answer.
I'll gladly reveal, if I haven't already, that I'm divorced with a beautiful 13 year old son.
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waysider
That's not a theory, it's a hypothesis.
Theory vs Hypothesis
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Nathan_Jr
The meaning of words has never been important to Mike. They mean whatever he imagines them to mean and expects everyone to read his mind.
I might even say it's not quite a hypothesis, it's a mere consideration. But nobody really knows, like the meaning of 'San Diego.'
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36. The eye cannot say to the hand I don’t need you and the head cannot say to the feet I don’t need you 1 Cor 12:21
Yet 100% of PFAL graduates move directly from the class into living in this doctrinal and practical error.
Why? Because their Bible has interpreted itself to indicate there is this extra special group called the household that is an inner Pharisee sanctum within the body of Christ that the verse is talking about.
Print that in a collateral
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chockfull
37. Bottles of beer on the wall that are all better than responding to fools
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Nathan_Jr
Yep, the division.
What about the family? Isn't there a distinction between the family and the household? Maybe I'm misremembering.
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T-Bone
I was doing some research on how trolls work and found this
I thought this would be a picture of a Troll not in service
Then I realized my interpolation accidentally added an “ey” in the original text…my bad
Still might work…not in service = not being in a state of use or employment
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WordWolf
This isn't exactly new. There's a reason I responded to his mentioning of the group with casualness. It was going to be a LOT less than he began advertising, by the time the details arrived. Any wonder why his credibility is shot here? There's more than 1 reason.
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He's been giving the same answer the entire time he's been here. "Can you post something both brief and clear?" "*evasion*" If he had SOMETHING, there would have been SOMETHING he could whip out and say "Here's something noteworthy" and we'd be able to say "How about that, something noteworthy." He's had over 20 years to find it, so if he hasn't found it yet....
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WordWolf
After seeing him unable to do it here, I'm confident he can't do it for the professors, either. He is who he is.
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chockfull
Yes the distinction boils down to whoever lives under house rules to them.
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And if there weren't, he'd have another excuse as to why he won't- he's used them for decades- but by now it's obvious he CAN'T.
(By that, I mean what he's been asked to do- be brief and clear.)
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WordWolf
You keep asking, he'll keep dodging. Can't change his spots.
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So_crates
Mike keeps claiming he wants to sell PLAF to us. Here's his big chance for a sales pitch. Name three things in the class we forgot, @Mike
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Right.
But is the family different from the household. Doesn't it get further delimited through the hierarchy - body>household>family? Or something like that?
I'm probably misremembering or I'm just confused.
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You don’t want to break into song with
so glad I’m a part of the family of God
at the same time as studying collaterals on the family / household distinction?
Yeah the doctrine is a bit mixed up and hidden but 100% lived.
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chockfull
The enlightening part to me was when I read through the Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse book that really digs into Jesus confrontations with the Pharisees and talks about the background of the Pharisees to set up inner circle within inner circle so the top people never had to come in contact with anyone unclean.
That is the exact functioning of the Way. While teaching the doctrine of household of God versus family of God.
Bunch of idiots. Missing the forest for the trees in I Cor 12 which they spend 2 classes of endless focus on.
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Nathan_Jr
I recognize that it's all f'd. I'm not asking about right or wrong doctrine, just simply, which is the inner most circle of Pharasitic self-righteousness as taught by twi? The family or the household?
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