I bumped my other thread for anyone who's interested.  But you can start here. I have these two cats, must be, 15 years old now.  Still skittish!  Still shy of being touched! Crypto is still lairy about being touched and will come for a fondle by passing her body under my dangled hand.  Don't try to pick her up unless you want a nasty bite; don't think about touching her flanks.  Not cuddlesome, but she does like my company and discreetly follows me about and sits nearby if I am sittin