A search on FB revealed two people asking (in FB groups related to TWI) for contact information on Rico and Robin in Florida and for people to pray for them.
The two posts were dated March 12 and 15 respectively.
The March 12 post got comments indicating someone got contact info privately.
The March 15 post got 40+ comments, most just saying they are praying for Rico's family and/or TWI. One or more alluded to the fact that the Mag family had left.
I have a question. When I was in TWI from 1972-January 1, 1996, I had not heard of Rico Magnelli. I do recognize the name as someone I have read about on this forum. What position(s) did he hold in TWI? I seem to remember it was rather high up.
Very happy for him and his family than they left that cesspool, if indeed they did.
He was on the prez cabinet, way corps coordinator, public relations coordinator and quite a few other positions. He also served as vice prez. Im sure he knows a lot of secrets. Rico n Robin leaving twi is a huge blow to twi. Im happy for them moving on.
He was on the prez cabinet, way corps coordinator, public relations coordinator and quite a few other positions. He also served as vice prez. Im sure he knows a lot of secrets. Rico n Robin leaving twi is a huge blow to twi. Im happy for them moving on.
Corps coordinator, lots of secrets...............oh yeah.
Rico and Robin were 18th corps.......it was the 17th & 18th corps who were intricately ensconced to lcm-loyalty, graduating in 1989 and 1990 respectively. As martindale gasped to stay ahead of the geer-onslaughts, he rallied the upper-cusp in-residence corps to his side and groomed them for future twi-service. The rupps, h0rneys, b0lchalks, andersons, and magn3llis were inserted into positions of authority as other corps coordinators were hitting the exit doors.
And, yes.......more than most, the corps coordinators KNOW the secrets and the cover-ups. Most would probably know the inner-circle of seductresses at hq and the infamous cabin 12 "visitors" at camp gunnison when martindale was on grounds.
Looking back, what emerged from the 1989 loyalty letter and new insurgent corps coordinators was heightened confrontation, suspicion and control. The designate Twi II had officially begun in earnest. By 1990/91.....the dial-a-corps night on the field was gaining support. The series of purges was throttled up and the corps indoctrination was geared to martindale allegiance.
Some refer to this, later version, corps indoctrination as.............abusive corps-nazis
Would be real interesting to hear Magn3lli's "story" of extricating themselves from the cult after 27 years of top positions. Maybe they will.....but I would venture to say that most corps coordinators would NOT want to implicate themselves with any reference to Martindale's corps training program in the early '90s.
Rico was always overly enthuiastic to a fault. Whatever direction was charted you could count on him to support it 110%. I would love to know why they left. Guess we all have our reasons in the end.
Ah, Rico, my old nemesis... He was WOW coordinator the year I was WOW, '92-'93, what he did after is hazy. I had several phone calls with him he spent most of the time berating me. He and Robin stated at our apartment when they visited us.
Rico was always overly enthuiastic to a fault. Whatever direction was charted you could count on him to support it 110%. I would love to know why they left. Guess we all have our reasons in the end.
That has to be the nicest way of calling someone a complete @$$ - ki$$er I have ever heard in my life.
I talked with someone still in TWI for several hours this past Saturday evening. She is in support of these dissenters. She sent me all the letters that have been posted here and answered any questions I had. I remember her saying that, Rico had told the group that God gave him audible revelation to go into Rosalie's office and tell her she was to resign from her place on the Board of Directors. Clearly, that did not go well, as he was escorted off grounds by security. So that is a little more detail on his leaving.
I talked with someone still in TWI for several hours this past Saturday evening. She is in support of these dissenters. She sent me all the letters that have been posted here and answered any questions I had. I remember her saying that, Rico had told the group that God gave him audible revelation to go into Rosalie's office and tell her she was to resign from her place on the Board of Directors. Clearly, that did not go well, as he was escorted off grounds by security. So that is a little more detail on his leaving.
I talked with someone still in TWI for several hours this past Saturday evening. She is in support of these dissenters. She sent me all the letters that have been posted here and answered any questions I had. I remember her saying that, Rico had told the group that God gave him audible revelation to go into Rosalie's office and tell her she was to resign from her place on the Board of Directors. Clearly, that did not go well, as he was escorted off grounds by security. So that is a little more detail on his leaving.
Not sure whether to call him nucking futts or take Gamaliel's advice....wow.
I talked with someone still in TWI for several hours this past Saturday evening. She is in support of these dissenters. She sent me all the letters that have been posted here and answered any questions I had. I remember her saying that, Rico had told the group that God gave him audible revelation to go into Rosalie's office and tell her she was to resign from her place on the Board of Directors. Clearly, that did not go well, as he was escorted off grounds by security. So that is a little more detail on his leaving.
And Rico thought that Rosalie would listen to audible revelation? Where has he been living the last 20 years? And why would God need to give audible revelation for information that was easily obtainable through observation and reasoning? The only thing that makes any kind of remote sense with that story is that Rico was so enveloped, encrusted, and ensnared by the Way and his position in the Way that God had to yell at him to wake him up audibly. If that happened to me, I would be ashamed, not using it to blame God for my actions that I should have taken and knew to take 2 decades ago.
Rico gets no quarter from me. Now make no mistake I am glad that he, Robin and family have escaped the clutches of the cult. But it's coming up on more than a decade as Corps Director under this regime. All with a funded high salary, a house in NK paid cash for, and all the perks of the position. Most of the secrets the BODummies knew, you also knew. God shouldn't have to yell at you. Especially after having seen so many lives decimated while not uttering a peep.
Rico was always the zealot's zealot. Run to serve. When they say jump he says how high. When Rosalie said work the Word on debt, he complies, producing one of the most convoluted cr@p teachings on the topic ever known to mankind. I mean half the d@mn debt policy is constructed off that workmanship of the Word produced by Rico. Great piece of kiss-@$$ work there. I especially liked the bit about how some universal truths transcend administrations, like debt and tithing. So appropriate for keeping the thumb on the head of all the little people.
So my advice to Rico is once they start that next little VPW worship splinter group, the first thing he should do is publish an update to that piece of cr@pola. And don't try to sell me any old wineskins, I'm not in the market.
So my advice to Rico is once they start that next little VPW worship splinter group, the first thing he should do is publish an update to that piece of cr@pola. And don't try to sell me any old wineskins, I'm not in the market.
Yeah.........exactly.
Who would "buy in" to this new little vpw-worship splinter group.......from kiss-azz leadership that stayed WAY TOO LONG?
How long will the group-hug last.....before egos get involved, and it splinters again. Meet your new boss......same as the old boss.
Any chance Rico was being sarcastic concerning audible revelation? Just making a point?
Everyone has known Rosie is a brick wall.
Normally I would say yes there is a chance. But we are talking about Rico here. I highly doubt he was being sarcastic. Also, I don't see Rico's name on those letters. He may not be involved long-term with that group, and is just sorting life out with his family, like many of us did when we left. While I give him no quarter, I do wish the best for him and his family - Robin's got a level head and they will pull through it.
I talked with someone still in TWI for several hours this past Saturday evening. She is in support of these dissenters. She sent me all the letters that have been posted here and answered any questions I had. I remember her saying that, Rico had told the group that God gave him audible revelation to go into Rosalie's office and tell her she was to resign from her place on the Board of Directors. Clearly, that did not go well, as he was escorted off grounds by security. So that is a little more detail on his leaving.
I seriously doubt God is talking to anyone in TWI. But then again, I could be wrong.
Any chance Rico was being sarcastic concerning audible revelation? Just making a point?
Everyone has known Rosie is a brick wall.
I know Rico well enough and he was not being sarcastic. He said it he believes it and hes serious. Im just shocked he grew a pair and stood up to rosie.
So revisiting this. I actually have some more information from reading through the R&R live broadcast Q & A on Facebook.
Apparently, Rico not only told Rosalie that she was to step down, but that God told him that he Rico should be the President. This happened right before a Sunday Teaching Service. Rico was escorted out, they moved to Florida, all the Way people there were in an uproar and JY De Loser had to fly out to meet with them. He taught scripture but did not answer any questions.
Again, just saw this info posted up on an answer to the R&R broadcast Q & A.
Apparently, Rico not only told Rosalie that she was to step down, but that God told him that he Rico should be the President.
Ok now it all comes into focus. Rosie old as dirt and whats left of top leadetship are either doing a power grab from within or starting their own splinter, trying to take as many wayfers with them to their new group. Barf.
.....whats left of top leadetship are either doing a power grab from within or starting their own splinter, trying to take as many wayfers with them to their new group. Barf.
Yeah, and........how many Pharisees did the Apostle Paul try to "power grab" when he left the Pharisaic-Circle Compound? NONE
THAT is the difference between the genuine and the counterfeit.
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You mean the guy who ran my advance class 2006 and destroyed everyone at basketball? Anyways if he has, good for him I wish him the best
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A search on FB revealed two people asking (in FB groups related to TWI) for contact information on Rico and Robin in Florida and for people to pray for them.
Edited by RockyThe two posts were dated March 12 and 15 respectively.
The March 12 post got comments indicating someone got contact info privately.
The March 15 post got 40+ comments, most just saying they are praying for Rico's family and/or TWI. One or more alluded to the fact that the Mag family had left.
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Good for them. I always liked them and thought the best of em.
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I have a question. When I was in TWI from 1972-January 1, 1996, I had not heard of Rico Magnelli. I do recognize the name as someone I have read about on this forum. What position(s) did he hold in TWI? I seem to remember it was rather high up.
Very happy for him and his family than they left that cesspool, if indeed they did.
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He was on the prez cabinet, way corps coordinator, public relations coordinator and quite a few other positions. He also served as vice prez. Im sure he knows a lot of secrets. Rico n Robin leaving twi is a huge blow to twi. Im happy for them moving on.
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Corps coordinator, lots of secrets...............oh yeah.
Rico and Robin were 18th corps.......it was the 17th & 18th corps who were intricately ensconced to lcm-loyalty, graduating in 1989 and 1990 respectively. As martindale gasped to stay ahead of the geer-onslaughts, he rallied the upper-cusp in-residence corps to his side and groomed them for future twi-service. The rupps, h0rneys, b0lchalks, andersons, and magn3llis were inserted into positions of authority as other corps coordinators were hitting the exit doors.
And, yes.......more than most, the corps coordinators KNOW the secrets and the cover-ups. Most would probably know the inner-circle of seductresses at hq and the infamous cabin 12 "visitors" at camp gunnison when martindale was on grounds.
Looking back, what emerged from the 1989 loyalty letter and new insurgent corps coordinators was heightened confrontation, suspicion and control. The designate Twi II had officially begun in earnest. By 1990/91.....the dial-a-corps night on the field was gaining support. The series of purges was throttled up and the corps indoctrination was geared to martindale allegiance.
Some refer to this, later version, corps indoctrination as.............abusive corps-nazis
Would be real interesting to hear Magn3lli's "story" of extricating themselves from the cult after 27 years of top positions. Maybe they will.....but I would venture to say that most corps coordinators would NOT want to implicate themselves with any reference to Martindale's corps training program in the early '90s.
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Rico was always overly enthuiastic to a fault. Whatever direction was charted you could count on him to support it 110%. I would love to know why they left. Guess we all have our reasons in the end.
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Yep......we all have our reasons. Probably, like many of us, it's a combination of things.
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Thanks for the information .. glad for them.
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Ah, Rico, my old nemesis... He was WOW coordinator the year I was WOW, '92-'93, what he did after is hazy. I had several phone calls with him he spent most of the time berating me. He and Robin stated at our apartment when they visited us.
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That has to be the nicest way of calling someone a complete @$$ - ki$$er I have ever heard in my life.
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Roflmao!! Maaaan im trying so hard to be objective in my posts, thx for noticing!
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I talked with someone still in TWI for several hours this past Saturday evening. She is in support of these dissenters. She sent me all the letters that have been posted here and answered any questions I had. I remember her saying that, Rico had told the group that God gave him audible revelation to go into Rosalie's office and tell her she was to resign from her place on the Board of Directors. Clearly, that did not go well, as he was escorted off grounds by security. So that is a little more detail on his leaving.
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"God told me to tell you."
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Not sure whether to call him nucking futts or take Gamaliel's advice....wow.
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And Rico thought that Rosalie would listen to audible revelation? Where has he been living the last 20 years? And why would God need to give audible revelation for information that was easily obtainable through observation and reasoning? The only thing that makes any kind of remote sense with that story is that Rico was so enveloped, encrusted, and ensnared by the Way and his position in the Way that God had to yell at him to wake him up audibly. If that happened to me, I would be ashamed, not using it to blame God for my actions that I should have taken and knew to take 2 decades ago.
Rico gets no quarter from me. Now make no mistake I am glad that he, Robin and family have escaped the clutches of the cult. But it's coming up on more than a decade as Corps Director under this regime. All with a funded high salary, a house in NK paid cash for, and all the perks of the position. Most of the secrets the BODummies knew, you also knew. God shouldn't have to yell at you. Especially after having seen so many lives decimated while not uttering a peep.
Rico was always the zealot's zealot. Run to serve. When they say jump he says how high. When Rosalie said work the Word on debt, he complies, producing one of the most convoluted cr@p teachings on the topic ever known to mankind. I mean half the d@mn debt policy is constructed off that workmanship of the Word produced by Rico. Great piece of kiss-@$$ work there. I especially liked the bit about how some universal truths transcend administrations, like debt and tithing. So appropriate for keeping the thumb on the head of all the little people.
So my advice to Rico is once they start that next little VPW worship splinter group, the first thing he should do is publish an update to that piece of cr@pola. And don't try to sell me any old wineskins, I'm not in the market.
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Any chance Rico was being sarcastic concerning audible revelation? Just making a point?
Everyone has known Rosie is a brick wall.
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Yeah.........exactly.
Who would "buy in" to this new little vpw-worship splinter group.......from kiss-azz leadership that stayed WAY TOO LONG?
How long will the group-hug last.....before egos get involved, and it splinters again. Meet your new boss......same as the old boss.
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Normally I would say yes there is a chance. But we are talking about Rico here. I highly doubt he was being sarcastic. Also, I don't see Rico's name on those letters. He may not be involved long-term with that group, and is just sorting life out with his family, like many of us did when we left. While I give him no quarter, I do wish the best for him and his family - Robin's got a level head and they will pull through it.
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I seriously doubt God is talking to anyone in TWI. But then again, I could be wrong.
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I know Rico well enough and he was not being sarcastic. He said it he believes it and hes serious. Im just shocked he grew a pair and stood up to rosie.
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So revisiting this. I actually have some more information from reading through the R&R live broadcast Q & A on Facebook.
Apparently, Rico not only told Rosalie that she was to step down, but that God told him that he Rico should be the President. This happened right before a Sunday Teaching Service. Rico was escorted out, they moved to Florida, all the Way people there were in an uproar and JY De Loser had to fly out to meet with them. He taught scripture but did not answer any questions.
Again, just saw this info posted up on an answer to the R&R broadcast Q & A.
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Ok now it all comes into focus. Rosie old as dirt and whats left of top leadetship are either doing a power grab from within or starting their own splinter, trying to take as many wayfers with them to their new group. Barf.
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Yeah, and........how many Pharisees did the Apostle Paul try to "power grab" when he left the Pharisaic-Circle Compound? NONE
THAT is the difference between the genuine and the counterfeit.
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