JYDL was knowingly complicit in covering up LCM (2nd pres.) escapades (adultery) which led to the lawsuits.
JYDL worked with RFR to plot and execute this specific cover-up.
RFR later lied under oath stating no prior knowledge of these affairs going on.
Displays how they control information through bribery
Displays seared conscience 24 years ago
Displays a Pharisee-like cover-up of adultery by JYDL as long as 24 years ago.
If any of these TWI Pharisees in charge were genuine, they would denounce their past publicly, apologize to those they hurt, disband the organization, disperse the assets, and start over with a new wineskin that has the capacity to hold new wine. But they won't, because the lie they have bought into selling out to promulgate is their meal ticket and source of wealth.
To spell it out......further
When Pa-ul All-en found out that Craig Martindale was using his "spiritual authority" to have sex with Paul's wife......he demanded a face-to-face confrontation at Craig's office in the Corps Chalet and that Rosalie, then vice-prez, and John Reynolds, then sec-treasurer, be there. This took place late in the evening.....like 10:30 or 11pm. Reynolds tried to berate Paul and talk him out of it......but Paul was livid.
So.....the face-to-face meeting happened. Martindale was seated at his desk, Reynolds and Rivenbark were there.....and John Linder, security patrol man, stool alongside the wall brandishing his glock 9mm handgun. Pa-ul All-en demanded martindale's RESIGNATION.......Feb 1999. Martindale balked and tried to bribe Paul with a job promotion if they could resolve this adultery [sex predation] quietly. NO WAY, NO HOW. Paul was having none of it.......Reynolds and Rivenbark sided with Craig and wanted to sweep in under the carpet. As things escalated.......Craig ordered Linder the bum's rush: to escort Paul to his dorm room in founder's hall, pack his things and get him and ferne off grounds within hours [in the cover of darkness]. By noon meal next day, martindale fabricated the story and told staffers that the allens were "possessed" etc. etc. [same drill used time and time again.]
Within three weeks......Paul, a computer website guru, had Waydale up and running. The sole mission of the website, the forerunner of GSC was two-fold: To seek and destroy 1) The Way International and 2) Craig Martindale....... hence Waydale.
Reynolds and Rivenbark were the sleaze that continued to cover for martindale.....until the lawyers got involved and strongly recommended that martindale be ousted for legal/insurance liabilities. So, the "man-in-tights-from-spirits-in-the-athlete" fame who had been salted and oiled by dikter wierwille himself slithered to Toledo, Ohio to a twi-owned house......trying to take him off-grid from one and all. No forwarding address. No phone listing. No one need ask questions....its NONE of your business [to hell it isn't !!]. See, that's the essence of all those dirty, little secrets at twi: You, little peon, have NO RIGHT TO QUESTION THEM. They can lie to you face, intimidate you into submission.......but when they utterly screw up, Reynolds and Rivenbark use every weapon in their arsenal to keep THEIR secrets.
And......Reynolds and Rivenbark have been JYDL's mentors for the past 28 YEARS.
Now, ain't his installation going to be a grand kick in the bucket? lol
I honestly wonder if there will be an installation. I bet they are more likely to do it privately, and then just trot him out as the new president. I don't expect him to be any more out front than Rosalie.
Yes, for 28 years......you have been intricately ensconced at the upper-tier levels of twi-hierarchy and groomed by "leadership" at hq and therefore, removed from understanding the emotional, physical and spiritual abuse that has been thrust upon the followers.
When I stop to think about it........after your wedding in 1988, Jean-Yves, I probably didn't spend more than 5 minutes with you thru those years before I exited.
The vortex at twi-hq sucked you in to their inner-circle where arrogance demands that upper-tier keep their distance, associations and conversations limited to those "they rule over." Trying to emanate the wierwille-mystique proto-type is the realm of deceivers, dicktators, and wannabes.
Jean-Yves...........in less than 50 days, you will be installed as the 4th president of twi. I'm sure that you and Michele are excited, and a little nervous, as this major transition approaches the horizon. What's next: 1) Will you be moving into the corps chalet ...er, president's home in the woods? 2) Will you be able to select or change twi-policy and issue directives to your cabinet members? 3) Will Rosie and Donna still preside in those cabinet meetings.....keeping close watch on your decisions? 4) Will you do a series of sns teachings to establish your new position and spiritual authority?
The U.S. has just gone thru the democratic process of voting/selecting their next president......obviously, the twi-corporation has NO pretense of an "open process." Thus, there is no inkling of the possibility of 1) "a change candidate" or 2) "a status-quo candidate." Twi has all the machinery in place to RESIST CHANGE. Clearly, there is no such thing as a new president coming in and "making sure that the old trash gets taken out." It's just not going to happen. It's even more apparent.....knowing that you were hq-groomed for 28 years and had NO FIELD ASSIGNMENTS DURING THAT TIME to help clear your head of the cult indoctrination.
So, Jean-Yves.......you are destined to preside over a no-change, status-quo, read-your-sermons, do-nothing-significant, hidden-from-view corporation. Sigh.
In all honesty, does it really matter who heads up the thing......if everything remains the same? If all the pieces on the chessboard just keeping doing the same-old, same-old........then the president is nothing more than a figurehead. When one walks the grounds of twi, what are the pillars projecting.......the victor paul wierwille prevailing word auditorium, the founders' room, the trustees buried at the garden of living waters, the wierwille memorial, founders hall, etc? Will your "presidency" -- Jean-Yves -- be anything other than a footnote?
Yeah, lots of questions, I guess.....lol. Will LCM be invited to headquarters to your installment as president? It must be quite ackward to acknowledge Rivenbark's tenure as 3rd president with a plaque in a distinguished place of honor.....without the question surfacing, "what ever happened to the 2nd president and his place of honor?"
And, here's the real kicker........if the next president is ONLY a "status-quo" guy and its just MORE OF THE SAME, then for some [those who've been trudging down this rut for 25-35 years] will find this as an excellent time to exit. It happened when wierwille stepped down. It happened with martindale was ousted. It happened when Rosalie took the reins. And.....it will happen when you, Jean-Yves, become the 4th twi-president. The new cycle, to build allegiance to its next prez, doesn't really appeal that much to the older crowd. When they smile....you might think its "acceptance," but the staffers are smiling to keep their paychecks coming.
Just my opinion........maybe it's time to drop the "president" title altogether in twi.
Only for non-profit status does twi consider itself a church.......but how many church denominations have "presidents?" Senior pastors, yes. Rabbis, yes. Ministers of faith, yes. But "presidents?" The whole use of that term in the church setting is erroneous.
Isn't it time, twi.........to re-think EVERYTHING that wierwille set in motion?
To walk the grounds ?...the whole place leaches spiritual pus, the spirit of whoredom, injustice, bribery, murder, deceit, lies, ad hominem....truly a place where angels would fear to tread.
Jean-Yves..........you do realize that Rosalie is handing you a wretched appointment, a non-profit corporation in freefall? Every baseline is failing......momentum, involvement, classes, programs, staffing, sunday service attendance.....and that's just the generic numbers. The internals? You know......the spiritual zeal and fervency has been on the dismal-dial for two decades. It ain't a pretty picture.
So.......why allow Rosalie to be the "mog-whisperer?"
To gain any headway, you are going to have to discard all "administrative-types" from your cabinet.......and find those who have a fervor for walking by the spirit. I know, I know......that is a TALL order seeing how twi has institutionalized wayfers for a generation or two. But,,,, you'd have to unshackle yourself and the "grooming" that's taken place for the past 28 years to turn the ship around.
The only way you, Jean-Yves, are going to make headway..........is a "road to Damascus" experience. [Acts 9:8ff]
To walk the grounds ?...the whole place leaches spiritual pus, the spirit of whoredom, injustice, bribery, murder, deceit, lies, ad hominem....truly a place where angels would fear to tread.
A bunch of liars playing the long con because they themselves are trapped.
I don't fear them any longer. The mental bonds of their false authority only has effect by acknowledging they have any spiritual authority whatsoever. My feelings are the God I know would laugh in their face at their condescending authoritative posturing and gets sick to His stomach at them biting and devouring one another to gain political power and them feeding themselves making themselves fat on the calamity of others.
My feelings are the God I know would laugh in their face at their condescending authoritative posturing and gets sick to His stomach at them biting and devouring one another to gain political power and them feeding themselves making themselves fat on the calamity of others.
And that would be God being kind to them...
Chocky, your "news footage" well represents the wreck of Wayfers' lives after TWI and the "road to Damascus" that opened our eyes to the evil of TWI. Clearly JYdL hasn't had that epiphany yet.
I knew JY and liked him, knew his wife a bit better, lovely lass. But I think the only way I could take JY seriously now, would be if he posted a public repentance on the TWI website in a prominent position, and wrote a letter of apology to people here and on other exWay sites. Not holding my breath for that.
The announcement that you, Jean-Yves, will be twi's next president has reached GreaseSpot Café.
Knowing you from those early days in Quebec City, and your WOW year in Toronto.......I am not surprised that you rose up thru the ranks of leadership. Clearly, in your former years, you had discipline, drive and heart-felt compassion for others. When you were assigned to one of Toronto's WOW teams, I personally made sure that Rene and Sonia [ if I remember her name correctly] were in your WOW-family.....Rene needed extra attention being wheel-chair bound, and Sonia was so innocent, lovely and beautiful that I knew you'd be the right person to help them. And, after your in-residence year......I was honored to perform your and Michele's wedding in 1988.
As twi continued to endure Chris Geer's call to "return back to the wierwille-indoctrination doctrine" with his arrogance assertions......twi went thru turbulent times, for sure. Martindale, Don and Howard were thrown back on their heels and were reeling in a defensive posture for a number of years. During this time, you and Michele were staffers at headquarters and saw much of the destruction of people's lives. Yes, for 28 years......you have been intricately ensconced at the upper-tier levels of twi-hierarchy and groomed by "leadership" at hq and therefore, removed from understanding the emotional, physical and spiritual abuse that has been thrust upon the followers.
I am saddened, Jean-Yves, to see that you never connected the dots of this abuse and evil. The scriptures give us wholesale examples of how the Pharisees burdened the people with guilt, shame, and fear to maintain their positions of power. You see, Jean-Yves.......there are reasons why some 480 clergy and 3,000 corps grads no longer follow the doctrine or tenets of wierwillism. The mog-doctrine was a fraud perpetrated by wierwille to enrich his power base and control over the youth. Even back then, the older folk were abandoning him left and right......as even wierwille had noted that time and time again. And, when wierwille schemed to offer the sunset corps an "opportunity" to build a cabin at their expense at Camp Gunnison [that twi would later inherit upon that person's death]......NOT ONE ELDERLY CORPS PERSON bought into it. Notice how the elder corps were skeptical and suspicious of wierwille's shenanigans.....even though they were "corps trained?"
Clearly, the days of Rosalie's tenure as president has been little more than manage the perceptions......after all, twi really doesn't have a research department any more, do they? And, the teachings are bland regurgitations that were scoffed at even by wierwille's pfal class renderings of religious veneer. Why would a "spirit-filled believer with all power" NEED to read his/her sermon? And then, is there really any full-sharing fellowship going on......or are people just going thru the motions? I think, if you were really honest......you know the answer. So....its not really a "Research, Teaching and Fellowship Ministry" is it?
Perhaps, you will slip into the big chair and be able to make BIG CHANGES during your tenure......to elevate Jesus Christ in his rightful and honored place as lord, savior, and mediator between God and man. Perhaps......you will turn the ship 180 degrees and get back to true Christian values where believers are guided by holy spirit within. Perhaps.....you will be able to clean the ranks of arrogant and abusive leaders that have sat in their seats of power at headquarters for 30+ years. But if you are going to make any difference whatsoever......you will have to keep Rosalie and Donna from whispering in your ear on a weekly basis.
All the best to you, Jean-Yves. Just know that "the power of that office" is not of any significance in the sight of God......UNLESS you use it for good, to unburden and heal the brokenhearted and those [still] in captivity. [Luke 4:18]
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This letter is pure gold!! Mr Linder be sure to frame this letter when you print it
The Wierwille Cult was so calloused that it could not register the pain and hardship it put on the way corps.
A narcissist and his ilk have no empathy for others. They are driven by self-serving agendas.
Anyone who ever thought that wierwille was so caring and walked by revelation (cough, cough).........might want to rethink that.
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Going to the Rock and Corps Week was a major ordeal. V.P. wrote a letter to the Corps saying his heart was broken that so many Corps left prior to the Rock. His words were, "Corps...if you can't stand with me at the Rock, then don't bother coming to Corps Week either. If your job won'e let you to, quite your job!" Then he said something about wavering in our believing.
So, to pull that off, one had to get a job that gave you 3 weeks vacation a year. It takes about 3 days to drive from Idaho to Ohio, 2 weeks at HQ, 3 days to drive back. It took money to fly, which meant you had to have a good job, which few of us did. So tell me where a person can get a job that gives them 3 weeks off a year right off the bat. Yet, if one was on staff, you were given time for Rock and Corps Week, plus given two weeks vacation a year. Then one day visiting clergy came to the state. One of the Corps Coordinators and taught a seminar on government. Oooh! Now that's certainly worth a 9-hour trip! Afterwards, he meets with the Corps and asks us why more Corps don't come to Way Family Camps. It was then I realized that TWI leadership was completely out of touch with what was going on out on the field. For the first time in my 10-year involvement in TWI, I'm starting to get disgruntled.
Then, to top it off, I received a letter from Donald Wierwille. He's mad because the College Division Alumnae who were also Corps Grads (me) were not attending special College Division funtions. He went as far as to say we had "attitude problems". I worked 12-hour days at the Rock, man, for free! In fact, I paid my own way to get there. One year I sold my car just to have enough to go and listen to "God's Word Served on a Silver Platter" for the like the 15th time. Now here's this guy in his ivory tower issuing smart-assed accusations about something of which he knows nothing. I was ....ed!
I was considering writing a nasty letter back and weighing whether it was worth getting kicked out of the Corps over. I doubt I would have had the guts to really do it, but I was on my way. It became a moot point about a week later because that's when Geer read Passing of the Patriarch for the first time. I sort of thought that Dean Don may be somewhat busy at that point.
The Wierwille Cult was so calloused that it could not register the pain and hardship it put on the way corps.
A narcissist and his ilk have no empathy for others. They are driven by self-serving agendas.
THAT was the root of the evil that was and is Dictor's cult.
But you say, doesn't scripture tell us that the love of money is the root of all evil? Well, "axiomatically" [one can't serve two masters] if one is narcissistically incapable of considering the needs of "his way corps" perhaps he's more obsessed with what is important to himself... even if he frames it as "word over the world" and "the word of God is the will of God."
On 1/22/2018 at 6:21 PM, Grace Valerie Claire said:
Sky, does anyone know how TWI is doing these days?
Well, one thing I noticed - the slot in the picture immediately to Rosie's right hand, that is empty. Of course, that is reserved mentally for BellaDonna, who can't be seen onstage due to her divorce from craig. Also, she can't have too much of a title because of this. But make no mistake, she is there. Those 3 to her left are what I term "expendibles". Even after 20 years. Look at rico and other vp's track records back to harve.
The Way's facebook group is increasing and people are joining. The whitewash tactic works. They have a new vanilla class. They have their history hidden. They have their postions secured.
There are only a few small pockets where people tell the truth. Like here.
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The announcement that you, Jean-Yves, will be twi's next president has reached GreaseSpot Café. Knowing you from those early days in Quebec City, and your WOW year in Toronto.......I am not surpr
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Thanks Skyrider! Another tremendous series of posts from a long-time GSC stalwart. Honest and forthright with volumes of FACTS to substantiate your every word. A reason your continued presence he
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And that would be God being kind to them... Chocky, your "news footage" well represents the wreck of Wayfers' lives after TWI and the "road to Damascus" that opened our eyes to the evil of TWI.
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Shout it loud, Allan!
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To spell it out......further
When Pa-ul All-en found out that Craig Martindale was using his "spiritual authority" to have sex with Paul's wife......he demanded a face-to-face confrontation at Craig's office in the Corps Chalet and that Rosalie, then vice-prez, and John Reynolds, then sec-treasurer, be there. This took place late in the evening.....like 10:30 or 11pm. Reynolds tried to berate Paul and talk him out of it......but Paul was livid.
So.....the face-to-face meeting happened. Martindale was seated at his desk, Reynolds and Rivenbark were there.....and John Linder, security patrol man, stool alongside the wall brandishing his glock 9mm handgun. Pa-ul All-en demanded martindale's RESIGNATION.......Feb 1999. Martindale balked and tried to bribe Paul with a job promotion if they could resolve this adultery [sex predation] quietly. NO WAY, NO HOW. Paul was having none of it.......Reynolds and Rivenbark sided with Craig and wanted to sweep in under the carpet. As things escalated.......Craig ordered Linder the bum's rush: to escort Paul to his dorm room in founder's hall, pack his things and get him and ferne off grounds within hours [in the cover of darkness]. By noon meal next day, martindale fabricated the story and told staffers that the allens were "possessed" etc. etc. [same drill used time and time again.]
Within three weeks......Paul, a computer website guru, had Waydale up and running. The sole mission of the website, the forerunner of GSC was two-fold: To seek and destroy 1) The Way International and 2) Craig Martindale....... hence Waydale.
Reynolds and Rivenbark were the sleaze that continued to cover for martindale.....until the lawyers got involved and strongly recommended that martindale be ousted for legal/insurance liabilities. So, the "man-in-tights-from-spirits-in-the-athlete" fame who had been salted and oiled by dikter wierwille himself slithered to Toledo, Ohio to a twi-owned house......trying to take him off-grid from one and all. No forwarding address. No phone listing. No one need ask questions....its NONE of your business [to hell it isn't !!]. See, that's the essence of all those dirty, little secrets at twi: You, little peon, have NO RIGHT TO QUESTION THEM. They can lie to you face, intimidate you into submission.......but when they utterly screw up, Reynolds and Rivenbark use every weapon in their arsenal to keep THEIR secrets.
And......Reynolds and Rivenbark have been JYDL's mentors for the past 28 YEARS.
Now, ain't his installation going to be a grand kick in the bucket? lol
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Perhaps a bunch of local ex-Wayfers should show up at his installation. Just to add congratulations from the Cafe, y'understand.
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I honestly wonder if there will be an installation. I bet they are more likely to do it privately, and then just trot him out as the new president. I don't expect him to be any more out front than Rosalie.
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When I stop to think about it........after your wedding in 1988, Jean-Yves, I probably didn't spend more than 5 minutes with you thru those years before I exited.
The vortex at twi-hq sucked you in to their inner-circle where arrogance demands that upper-tier keep their distance, associations and conversations limited to those "they rule over." Trying to emanate the wierwille-mystique proto-type is the realm of deceivers, dicktators, and wannabes.
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Jean-Yves...........in less than 50 days, you will be installed as the 4th president of twi. I'm sure that you and Michele are excited, and a little nervous, as this major transition approaches the horizon. What's next: 1) Will you be moving into the
corps chalet...er, president's home in the woods? 2) Will you be able to select or change twi-policy and issue directives to your cabinet members? 3) Will Rosie and Donna still preside in those cabinet meetings.....keeping close watch on your decisions? 4) Will you do a series of sns teachings to establish your new position and spiritual authority?The U.S. has just gone thru the democratic process of voting/selecting their next president......obviously, the twi-corporation has NO pretense of an "open process." Thus, there is no inkling of the possibility of 1) "a change candidate" or 2) "a status-quo candidate." Twi has all the machinery in place to RESIST CHANGE. Clearly, there is no such thing as a new president coming in and "making sure that the old trash gets taken out." It's just not going to happen. It's even more apparent.....knowing that you were hq-groomed for 28 years and had NO FIELD ASSIGNMENTS DURING THAT TIME to help clear your head of the cult indoctrination.
So, Jean-Yves.......you are destined to preside over a no-change, status-quo, read-your-sermons, do-nothing-significant, hidden-from-view corporation. Sigh.
In all honesty, does it really matter who heads up the thing......if everything remains the same? If all the pieces on the chessboard just keeping doing the same-old, same-old........then the president is nothing more than a figurehead. When one walks the grounds of twi, what are the pillars projecting.......the victor paul wierwille prevailing word auditorium, the founders' room, the trustees buried at the garden of living waters, the wierwille memorial, founders hall, etc? Will your "presidency" -- Jean-Yves -- be anything other than a footnote?
Yeah, lots of questions, I guess.....lol. Will LCM be invited to headquarters to your installment as president? It must be quite ackward to acknowledge Rivenbark's tenure as 3rd president with a plaque in a distinguished place of honor.....without the question surfacing, "what ever happened to the 2nd president and his place of honor?"
And, here's the real kicker........if the next president is ONLY a "status-quo" guy and its just MORE OF THE SAME, then for some [those who've been trudging down this rut for 25-35 years] will find this as an excellent time to exit. It happened when wierwille stepped down. It happened with martindale was ousted. It happened when Rosalie took the reins. And.....it will happen when you, Jean-Yves, become the 4th twi-president. The new cycle, to build allegiance to its next prez, doesn't really appeal that much to the older crowd. When they smile....you might think its "acceptance," but the staffers are smiling to keep their paychecks coming.
Status-quo...........it's what cults do.
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Just my opinion........maybe it's time to drop the "president" title altogether in twi.
Only for non-profit status does twi consider itself a church.......but how many church denominations have "presidents?" Senior pastors, yes. Rabbis, yes. Ministers of faith, yes. But "presidents?" The whole use of that term in the church setting is erroneous.
Isn't it time, twi.........to re-think EVERYTHING that wierwille set in motion?
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To walk the grounds ?...the whole place leaches spiritual pus, the spirit of whoredom, injustice, bribery, murder, deceit, lies, ad hominem....truly a place where angels would fear to tread.
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Jean-Yves..........you do realize that Rosalie is handing you a wretched appointment, a non-profit corporation in freefall? Every baseline is failing......momentum, involvement, classes, programs, staffing, sunday service attendance.....and that's just the generic numbers. The internals? You know......the spiritual zeal and fervency has been on the dismal-dial for two decades. It ain't a pretty picture.
So.......why allow Rosalie to be the "mog-whisperer?"
To gain any headway, you are going to have to discard all "administrative-types" from your cabinet.......and find those who have a fervor for walking by the spirit. I know, I know......that is a TALL order seeing how twi has institutionalized wayfers for a generation or two. But,,,, you'd have to unshackle yourself and the "grooming" that's taken place for the past 28 years to turn the ship around.
The only way you, Jean-Yves, are going to make headway..........is a "road to Damascus" experience. [Acts 9:8ff]
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A bunch of liars playing the long con because they themselves are trapped.
I don't fear them any longer. The mental bonds of their false authority only has effect by acknowledging they have any spiritual authority whatsoever. My feelings are the God I know would laugh in their face at their condescending authoritative posturing and gets sick to His stomach at them biting and devouring one another to gain political power and them feeding themselves making themselves fat on the calamity of others.
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I think I found some news footage on that "road to Damascus" experience.
http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Explosions-shake-Damascus-Syria-blames-Israel-312070
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And that would be God being kind to them...
Chocky, your "news footage" well represents the wreck of Wayfers' lives after TWI and the "road to Damascus" that opened our eyes to the evil of TWI. Clearly JYdL hasn't had that epiphany yet.
I knew JY and liked him, knew his wife a bit better, lovely lass. But I think the only way I could take JY seriously now, would be if he posted a public repentance on the TWI website in a prominent position, and wrote a letter of apology to people here and on other exWay sites. Not holding my breath for that.
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This letter is pure gold!! Mr Linder be sure to frame this letter when you print it
Thanks in Advance
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Jean-Yves................so, how was your first year as pResident of twi?
I supposed, by now, that you've realized that you HAVE TO do the bidding of Rosalie..........otherwise, you'll be demoted and sent packing.
I mean.........just look, rupp and greene will easily vote with da-queen.
You, Jean-Yves........are a pawn.
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Why was Bill Greene ADDED to the board of directors?.............
Once again.........rosie has maneuvered strategic advantages to her corner.
Cross her............and you're gone. Donna will be next in line for promotion.
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Question......on picture above
Who are the two people on the left ?
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Cult Leaders and their Agenda:
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"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ---- Voltaire
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The Wierwille Cult was so calloused that it could not register the pain and hardship it put on the way corps.
A narcissist and his ilk have no empathy for others. They are driven by self-serving agendas.
Anyone who ever thought that wierwille was so caring and walked by revelation (cough, cough).........might want to rethink that.
Going, Going.............Gone
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THAT was the root of the evil that was and is Dictor's cult.
But you say, doesn't scripture tell us that the love of money is the root of all evil? Well, "axiomatically" [one can't serve two masters] if one is narcissistically incapable of considering the needs of "his way corps" perhaps he's more obsessed with what is important to himself... even if he frames it as "word over the world" and "the word of God is the will of God."
Or as Martin Buber put it, there's a fundamental difference between the I-Thou relationship and the I-It relationship.
To Dictor, the way corpse (individuals as well as the group) was a thing, not a human who deserved to be treated with dignity.
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Sky, does anyone know how TWI is doing these days?
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Well, one thing I noticed - the slot in the picture immediately to Rosie's right hand, that is empty. Of course, that is reserved mentally for BellaDonna, who can't be seen onstage due to her divorce from craig. Also, she can't have too much of a title because of this. But make no mistake, she is there. Those 3 to her left are what I term "expendibles". Even after 20 years. Look at rico and other vp's track records back to harve.
The Way's facebook group is increasing and people are joining. The whitewash tactic works. They have a new vanilla class. They have their history hidden. They have their postions secured.
There are only a few small pockets where people tell the truth. Like here.
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Thomas Loy Bumgarner
Jean reminds me of Jeff Dunham's puppet Jose Jalapeno on a schtick, Rosie is the puppeteer while Jean is the puppet.
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