So what IS believing?

[WordWolf]

If I'm remembering correctly, somewhere along the line Wierwille taught about Matthew 13:58, "And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief."

He said there was such a thing in a community as "the temperature of believing," and that this temperature influenced what could happen. It doesn't seem to me that Wierwille himself ever laid much emphasis on this, but Martindale made a big deal out of it in the classes he taught on the book of Acts. I think Martindale then used it as a rationalization for why HE couldn't get anything done. It's piteous how far the mighty have fallen when the unbelief of one little person in the room can defeat ALL the believing of the man of God of the world for this our day and time!

Love,

Steve

The thing was that lcm wasn't looking to UNDERSTAND,

he was looking to excuse himself from producing any RESULTS.

Otherwise, he'd have followed his line of reasoning to its logical conclusions.

Look-

for the sake of discussion, let's suppose for a moment that his entire system

of "believing is a Green Lantern ring" worked IRL, and that fear worked in

an opposite direction that was otherwise the same.

Let's say he was also correct about a "spiritual temperature." That would mean

that, before trying to "believe for" something, it was to his advantage to

change the environment by bringing in others to "alter the temperature"

before trying. So, he should have filled a room with serious twi'ers who,

by definition, would "believe with" him on things, both on the general and

on the specific. So, when he had a roomful of the way corps, say, he had

changed the temperature as much as could be done, before attempting his

feat of "believing to alter reality."

Having all of that in place, and lcm STILL being unable to alter reality

would mean either one of 2 things:

1) the system is wrong and should not be expected to produce an

altering of reality

2) lcm was a spiritual willpower weakling, who was unable to "lift the

weight" even with other people nudging the barbell up and reducing its

weight, thus making it easier.

But anyone thinking this through, if there was anyone left TO think this

through, would have been discouraged to do so, and ostracized and kicked

out if they did it.

[Allan]

And yet we have Matthew 18:18,19 where Jesus said where two or more are gathered in his name...unity ?

[Bolshevik]

Bumping thread.

The Law of Believing, I think has been compared to The Law of Attraction before.

I heard critics refer to The Law of Attraction it as "ego-inflation".

A google search of Law of Attraction and ego inflation brought up this LINK, as an example.