Hello, Catcup, nice to see you back here. Sounds as though things are working out well for you now. Tremendous!
What was SiL's response? Flabbergasted, no doubt. Wouldn't believe you.
Your MiL should have put the land into a properly constituted trust with two trustees (at least) and all the siblings as beneficiaries. No doubt she trusted WayBro as a true Christian... if only she'd known.
I would think that the siblings would have a good cause of action (should they choose to sue WayBro) because there have been distributions of the income in previous years from this informal trust. WayBro is going to have to document the "change of heart" and that will be difficult for him. The costs may have to be borne from the estate (the land) and that will eat up its value and the amount each sibling gets (including WayBro). Definitely a case of agreeing with one's adversary quickly!
Regrettably this isn't going to do anything at all for family unity and building harmony in the home (ha ha) and will probably give WayBro even more reason to entrench with TWI. The greedy b******!
Mother in law, WayBrother, Husband, and one other brother all were in TWI. Other brother left first, but all trusted WayBrother.
I agree that this matter should have been properly sorted legally from the beginning, but as I said, I always tried to stay out of family financial/inheritance matters. And now, as Twinky pointed out, it's likely going to be significantly nibbled away by legal fees unless WayBrother grows a conscience.
Not holding my breath on that one.
And yes, WayBrother will have a difficult time explaining away the years he did comply with his Mother's wishes and distributed yearly farm profits.
Have not heard back yet from Sister in Law. She is likely stunned, because it is totally out of character for me to open up to this family about what went on inside TWI. As a matter of principle and out of respect for family harmony I kept it to myself and simply withdrew from activities I knew would bring me into contact with WayBrother and his kids.
But she asked.
So, this is likely all I will contribute to their personal matter. I will back off, retreat to my own business and watch what happens with theirs.
It's a shame how the ramifications of TWI involvement continue to ravage the family long after you break your own ties with the organization.
I practised in Family Law and in Probate Law for a while. Ah, the bitterness there can be after a death where there is an unclear will. Unbelievable!! (And the bitterness between divorcing spouses often shocked me.)
There is such a lot of stuff especially in the OT about family relationships and obligations - they're there for a reason (perhaps to learn from?) - for one, that's why the oldest male got a double portion of his father's "estate" - so that he could provide for his bereaved mother and for his sisters, where necessary. Not for him to hold greedily to himself.
This has potential to be not a nice thing, Catcup (says Twinx, understatedly). Keep your in-laws in your prayers, and pray that WayBro will come to his senses quickly. Blessed are the peacemakers.
i'm sorry i have to come back to this because i started having panic attack and want to vomit not lying
thinking of catcup's little sister
and things catcup knows about trauma in childbirth (which is something
also catcup sorry to bother you see my thread in open about nfl guy and what my friend said i was posting that just before this and i can't tomorrow i will read
It is very good to read your font once again in here. I do wish the circumstances were a whole lot better. Waybrother will have to answer one day to aother power if he doesn't hear the wisdom being told to him now.
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GrouchoMarxJr
Wow...A heartfelt story certainly consistent with everything I know about twi...Twi has ravaged people's lives in many ways...including financially.
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Hello, Catcup, nice to see you back here. Sounds as though things are working out well for you now. Tremendous!
What was SiL's response? Flabbergasted, no doubt. Wouldn't believe you.
Your MiL should have put the land into a properly constituted trust with two trustees (at least) and all the siblings as beneficiaries. No doubt she trusted WayBro as a true Christian... if only she'd known.
I would think that the siblings would have a good cause of action (should they choose to sue WayBro) because there have been distributions of the income in previous years from this informal trust. WayBro is going to have to document the "change of heart" and that will be difficult for him. The costs may have to be borne from the estate (the land) and that will eat up its value and the amount each sibling gets (including WayBro). Definitely a case of agreeing with one's adversary quickly!
Regrettably this isn't going to do anything at all for family unity and building harmony in the home (ha ha) and will probably give WayBro even more reason to entrench with TWI. The greedy b******!
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Hi Groucho and Twink!
Yeah the same old story of TWI.
Mother in law, WayBrother, Husband, and one other brother all were in TWI. Other brother left first, but all trusted WayBrother.
I agree that this matter should have been properly sorted legally from the beginning, but as I said, I always tried to stay out of family financial/inheritance matters. And now, as Twinky pointed out, it's likely going to be significantly nibbled away by legal fees unless WayBrother grows a conscience.
Not holding my breath on that one.
And yes, WayBrother will have a difficult time explaining away the years he did comply with his Mother's wishes and distributed yearly farm profits.
Have not heard back yet from Sister in Law. She is likely stunned, because it is totally out of character for me to open up to this family about what went on inside TWI. As a matter of principle and out of respect for family harmony I kept it to myself and simply withdrew from activities I knew would bring me into contact with WayBrother and his kids.
But she asked.
So, this is likely all I will contribute to their personal matter. I will back off, retreat to my own business and watch what happens with theirs.
It's a shame how the ramifications of TWI involvement continue to ravage the family long after you break your own ties with the organization.
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Hi Catcup.
Yeah.....the "waybrother" conscience needs a vast, course correction.
Sadly, his conscience has been molded by twi for decades via perverted scripture
and distorted truth. He's an ideologue to deceptive doctrine.
I remember when wierwille started that "be especially good to the household of faith" doctrine.
And, as he'd wrap a whole teaching around it......it skewed the aspects of its context.
One could easily discern this verse and TEACH IT PROPERLY, but twi has a dark agenda.
Hopefully, "waybrother" will get a heavy dose of stern confrontation from the siblings.
AND....maybe your good husband can instruct him as to the true nature of that verse.
The guy (waybrother) has surely taken leave of a proper, Christian conscience and
is adjoined to the baser sort.
All the best to you Catcup.
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I practised in Family Law and in Probate Law for a while. Ah, the bitterness there can be after a death where there is an unclear will. Unbelievable!! (And the bitterness between divorcing spouses often shocked me.)
There is such a lot of stuff especially in the OT about family relationships and obligations - they're there for a reason (perhaps to learn from?) - for one, that's why the oldest male got a double portion of his father's "estate" - so that he could provide for his bereaved mother and for his sisters, where necessary. Not for him to hold greedily to himself.
This has potential to be not a nice thing, Catcup (says Twinx, understatedly). Keep your in-laws in your prayers, and pray that WayBro will come to his senses quickly. Blessed are the peacemakers.
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For sure, Twinky.
So good to see/read you all. Thanks for your input.
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i'm sorry i have to come back to this because i started having panic attack and want to vomit not lying
thinking of catcup's little sister
and things catcup knows about trauma in childbirth (which is something
also catcup sorry to bother you see my thread in open about nfl guy and what my friend said i was posting that just before this and i can't tomorrow i will read
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It is very good to read your font once again in here. I do wish the circumstances were a whole lot better. Waybrother will have to answer one day to aother power if he doesn't hear the wisdom being told to him now.
I wish you did not have to endure this.
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Oakspear
Geez...
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WordWolf
There are some people who have difficulty accepting the possibility
that people they love and/or trust would act improperly, to a smaller
or a lesser degree. There's people who treat their families like
commodities like they treat their government, and it's inconceivable
to some others that they can do that.
That's not a problem when dealing with TRUSTWORTHY people, and in fact,
most of the time, it is NOT a problem.
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