FREEDOM.....from an onerous cult

[skyrider]

My involvement in twi, and specifically the way corps program, was a laborious trek of cult-inflicted rules and regs being added each month, each year. The corps "commitment" was the most burdensome, because I'd ventured into twi's most sacred stronghold of cultdom and mystique......and was subjected to its indoctrination of twi-servitude.

The corps program was a multiplier of complexities, burdens, mind-games, buzzspeak, peer pressure, isolation, competitiveness, and psychology. With each passing year, the elder corps were tagged with the responsibility of "training" the younger corps. Much like an MLM analogy.....it paid rich dividends [status and seniority] to those who got in at the beginning stages. Hefty premiums were granted in spirituality if one had been in Way Corps 1....or 2....or 3....or 4....or even 5. The Sixth Corps [or sick corps] had the dubious distinction of all being thrown out and had to grovel to get back in.

These complexities and burdens were synonymous to taking a month-long mountain trek with a heavy backpack. After a grueling day, the leaders order the young hiker to gather firewood, fix supper, clean up, and pitch tents before dark. Oh, and be sure to be the first up in the morning to start the fire and get breakfast ready. And further, the elder hikers decide its best for the younger hiker to carry more items, more weight.....because its good training, etc. So, while the elders seem to enjoy this jaunt along the mountain trails and the social life around the campfire at night......the young hikers are carrying the heavy loads and tasked with all the duties.

The corps became the grunt workers when the elders were nearby.......or the house servants of the manor.

THEN......when one unravels the lies and mystique of wierwille, FREEDOM IS BUT ONE STEP AWAY.

Happy Independence Day......to every former cult member of twi. Enjoy the liberty.

II Corinthians 3:17

Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

[skyrider]

II Corinthians 3:17

Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

And, where the Spirit of the Lord isn't.........there is bondage servitude.

:o

[chockfull]

Yep. Happy Independence Day all. I do celebrate also my independence from bondage on days like today.

[johniam]

Me and one of my sons are going to see the Cardinals play the Marlins tonight plus the fireworks show. Should be good.

Few years ago we had a Father's fellowship. Once a month on Friday nights there'd be a teaching, then we'd all drink beer. The youngest guy in this fellowship (30 plus) had to get the first beer for everybody else. He had to walk from the living room to the kitchen then open everybody else's first beer, then walk back to the living room. What bondage! Somebody should've called the cops.

[waysider]

Me and one of my sons are going to see the Cardinals play the Marlins tonight plus the fireworks show. Should be good.

Few years ago we had a Father's fellowship. Once a month on Friday nights there'd be a teaching, then we'd all drink beer. The youngest guy in this fellowship (30 plus) had to get the first beer for everybody else. He had to walk from the living room to the kitchen then open everybody else's first beer, then walk back to the living room. What bondage! Somebody should've called the cops.

John, with all due respect, what is the purpose of trying to compare two entirely different things? Your experience at a splinter fellowship has nothing to do with the subject as it was presented. If you don't agree with the original premise, that's fine. You're free to say so. But please stop trying to negate the experiences of other posters.

[WordWolf]

My involvement in twi, and specifically the way corps program, was a laborious trek of cult-inflicted rules and regs being added each month, each year. The corps "commitment" was the most burdensome, because I'd ventured into twi's most sacred stronghold of cultdom and mystique......and was subjected to its indoctrination of twi-servitude.

The corps program was a multiplier of complexities, burdens, mind-games, buzzspeak, peer pressure, isolation, competitiveness, and psychology. With each passing year, the elder corps were tagged with the responsibility of "training" the younger corps. Much like an MLM analogy.....it paid rich dividends [status and seniority] to those who got in at the beginning stages. Hefty premiums were granted in spirituality if one had been in Way Corps 1....or 2....or 3....or 4....or even 5. The Sixth Corps [or sick corps] had the dubious distinction of all being thrown out and had to grovel to get back in.

These complexities and burdens were synonymous to taking a month-long mountain trek with a heavy backpack. After a grueling day, the leaders order the young hiker to gather firewood, fix supper, clean up, and pitch tents before dark. Oh, and be sure to be the first up in the morning to start the fire and get breakfast ready. And further, the elder hikers decide its best for the younger hiker to carry more items, more weight.....because its good training, etc. So, while the elders seem to enjoy this jaunt along the mountain trails and the social life around the campfire at night......the young hikers are carrying the heavy loads and tasked with all the duties.

The corps became the grunt workers when the elders were nearby.......or the house servants of the manor.

THEN......when one unravels the lies and mystique of wierwille, FREEDOM IS BUT ONE STEP AWAY.

Happy Independence Day......to every former cult member of twi. Enjoy the liberty.

II Corinthians 3:17

Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

Me and one of my sons are going to see the Cardinals play the Marlins tonight plus the fireworks show. Should be good.

Few years ago we had a Father's fellowship. Once a month on Friday nights there'd be a teaching, then we'd all drink beer. The youngest guy in this fellowship (30 plus) had to get the first beer for everybody else. He had to walk from the living room to the kitchen then open everybody else's first beer, then walk back to the living room. What bondage! Somebody should've called the cops.

John, with all due respect, what is the purpose of trying to compare two entirely different things? Your experience at a splinter fellowship has nothing to do with the subject as it was presented. If you don't agree with the original premise, that's fine. You're free to say so. But please stop trying to negate the experiences of other posters.

John's saying he can't distinguish between the experiences in the way corps program

with a social get-together with beer.

[excathedra]

were you in the way corps program, john?

[skyrider]

John's saying he can't distinguish between the experiences in the way corps program

with a social get-together with beer.

Maybe.....he learned how to "sequence together" these events from twi

in the manner that vpee sequenced his chapters and books?

See "pfal perception is everything" thread.

[Broken Arrow]

John, with all due respect, what is the purpose of trying to compare two entirely different things? Your experience at a splinter fellowship has nothing to do with the subject as it was presented. If you don't agree with the original premise, that's fine. You're free to say so. But please stop trying to negate the experiences of other posters.

Oh, I dunno, John's just comparing this elder mentality stuff with TWI.

Me and one of my sons are going to see the Cardinals play the Marlins tonight plus the fireworks show. Should be good.

Good for you! Great way to celebrate the 4th with a son!

Happy Independence Day......to every former cult member of twi. Enjoy the liberty.

II Corinthians 3:17

Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

Thank you, Skyrider! Hope you have a happy 4th as well, and everyone else reading this thread!

[excathedra]

i'm so grateful to live in the USA - i pray to god we stay free

[chockfull]

Me and one of my sons are going to see the Cardinals play the Marlins tonight plus the fireworks show. Should be good.

Can't beat that.

Few years ago we had a Father's fellowship. Once a month on Friday nights there'd be a teaching, then we'd all drink beer. The youngest guy in this fellowship (30 plus) had to get the first beer for everybody else. He had to walk from the living room to the kitchen then open everybody else's first beer, then walk back to the living room. What bondage! Somebody should've called the cops.

Sounds like a good time.

Have a happy 4th!!!!!

[skyrider]

The corps became the grunt workers when the elders were nearby.......or the house servants of the manor.

Yeah.....the disciplined corps had been indoctrinated and integrated into twi-servitude......the valets, parking attendants, coat-takers, escorts, waiters, waitresses, kitchen staff, ushers, entertainers, singers, etc. as "the royalty court" makes its grand entrance. At major events, the thousands of servants [corps] were in attendance for the beckon call or nod of the president and first lady....vpee and dots.

VANITY OF VANITIES......as twi lauded its self-proclaimed importance to its fawning followers.

What was it?....nearly 90% of twi-activity and workload was IN-HOUSE operations. All that work and fuss so wierwille could be elevated on his mog-pedestal. Twi's "prevailing word" is now living in a retirement center.

[outandabout]

I was in Miissippi

Edited July 6, 2014 by outandabout

[outandabout]

I was in Miissippi

[outandabout]

Dammit. I was trying to spell Mississippi. Which was where I was. The Branch leaders were telling some other leadership that were going to take over that they "didn't have this" their first year there - meaning the waiting on that they were receiving - implying that such servitude was their due. Their servants were apprentice Corps. Oh, the poor branch leaders, can you imagine that they might have to actually get their own ice tea and bring it to their guests??

[Rocky]

Dammit. I was trying to spell Mississippi. Which was where I was. The Branch leaders were telling some other leadership that were going to take over that they "didn't have this" their first year there - meaning the waiting on that they were receiving - implying that such servitude was their due. Their servants were apprentice Corps. Oh, the poor branch leaders, can you imagine that they might have to actually get their own ice tea and bring it to their guests??

I was looking around in youtube a day or two ago and in the list of recommended videos on the right side of the window showed up one titled something like Wierwille's last public teaching - The Hope. It was, of course, bulls*it and I didn't bother to watch more than the first two and a half minutes or so before I couldn't tolerate it anymore.

But the guy who had posted the video is named Maurice Goulet and boy is he a Wierwille sycophant. There are lots of comments on the the video... so, I added one. Fortunately, I saved my comment because he apparently didn't like it and either deleted it himself or got google to do it for him by flagging it. Anyway, the indentured servitude concept got me wound up and here's what I wrote.

My experience with Wierwille was first hand. He was a mean, nasty, narcissistic SOB.

He used and abused anyone he could, especially those of us gullible enough to enlist, as young adults, in the Way Corps (I was in the 9th).

He built a subculture based on the works of others (plagiarism). His "Way Tree" had accountability completely backward. Instead of, as was in the Book of Acts, the traveling ministers were accountable to the people who provided their sustinence, whenever Wierwille traveled, his minions were instructed to provide him with every comfort and luxury, but don't dare demand accountability from him. In other words, in his arrogance, he believed he did not have to answer to anyone. As a result, he used many of the young female WOWs and Way Corps for his personal toys in the 1970s and early 1980s. He holds a great deal of responsibility for what LC Martindale did that got him tossed aside by The Way. Wierwille both mentored Martindale and built the closed subculture of reckless abuse of women that Martindale got caught up in and perpetuated after Wierwille's death.

Martin Buber wrote (I and Thou) about the difference between people and things. Wierwille preached that people were to love and things were to be used. But he DID exactly the opposite in far too many instances.

I don't know that "mainstream media" even knows or cares who Wierwille was anymore, let alone believe anything about him. Having personally worked in corporate media, and now blogging regularly, I know that there is plenty of information online to document what Wierwille actually did.

Furthermore, his "foundational class" was FULL of irrational, non-logical and unsound arguments.

That class was nothing but indoctrination into a mindset where he set himself up to be the ONLY authority on what was the will of God.

His interpretation of Proverbs

is a poignant case in point.

There may be redeeming social value in a close examination of the history of The Way for understanding how people can be indoctrinated and change their behavior without basis in rational sound reasoning. But as far as I'm concerned, that's about it.

If you want to know the God of the Bible, you'll probably need to cast off a good bit of what you may have learned as a result of Wierwille's "ministry."

[skyrider]

FREEDOM.......from the drudgery of twi's indentured servitude.

FREEDOM.......from manipulation and financial exploitation (abs).

FREEDOM.......to pursue a life and lifestyle of your own choosing.

FREEDOM.......to distance your family from other cult snares.

Discussion forums like here at GreaseSpot Café provide an excellent venue for exposing twi's manipulation tactics and snares. It gives the reader/poster a number of vantage points......fellow laborers, corps program, hq staffer, or field perspective that helps to *connect the dots* of twi's bandwidth of exploitation. Far from isolated incidents, twi's stripes can be seen from its stolen inception (1953) and identity.

Understandably, those caught in the swirl of twi-activity.....the rewriting of wierwille's ministry.....

the like-minded camaraderie of working together of "friends".....the constant spiritual propaganda that

those in twi's household are unique and special and WILL BE REWARDED, the hard truth as told on GS

confirms what your inner conscience has been signaling for a long, long time. You've been lied to....

and suspected as much, but unwilling to really investigate it for yourself.

Now you know.

And, freedom awaits. Take a deep breath and start walking. :)/>/>

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Edited July 6, 2014 by skyrider

[chockfull]

Great stuff skyrider. And Rocky I like your response on that teaching video - telling it like it is.