I went to a cult....so my kids wouldn't have to

[skyrider]

Remember when wierwille would say "I had to a séance to learn SO THAT YOU wouldn't have to."

Yeah.....veepee just HAD to do all this stuff so we, the little people, could just obey.

Wasn't he just wonderful? So giving and so thoughtful.

Gee......it that why wierwille went to those ORGIES in California?

So, we wouldn't have to?

[waysider]

From what I understand, he talked to Doop or Heefner about the possibility of going to orgies, but I don't know if he ever followed through and went. Of course, the mere fact that he inquired is enough to make me suspicious of his intentions.

Edited April 19, 2014 by waysider

[WordWolf]

He acquired pornography in San Francisco.

He viewed pornography, and showed some of it to the corps,

and described it to people he didn't show it to.

(Early CFS classes had it shown, later classes had it described.)

Pretty deviant stuff, too.

He asked D00p, specifically, for specifics about orgies, and made

D00p uncomfortable- with D00p saying he was glad he was delivered

from that sort of thing even while saying he was only BRIEFLY

at one (technically, he showed up, but didn't seem to stick around

to participate, judging from the timeframe.) vpw then tried to

tell Jim that God Almighty was fine with orgies. vpw dropped the

subject when it was obvious D00p was hostile to his message.

We have no accounts of vpw getting invited to one, attending, or

knowing time, date and location of one. IMHO, it's obvious he was

FISHING for that information, but didn't get it (didn't ask anyone

who knew offhand, or at least acknowledged knowing if they DID know.)

vpw saw the pornography so we didn't have to- then showed it to some

resident corps-which meant they had to.

vpw walked into seances and things so we didn't have to.

vpw attended racetracks so we didn't have to.

vpw drank a lot and smoked a lot so we didn't have to- he made agreements

for some of the corps to raise money for their tuition by giving up

smoking and giving him the money. Fairly young in life, vpw dropped dead

of cancer whose risk factors included lots of drinking and smoking.

So, vpw dropped dead young so we wouldn't have to.

vpw acquired lots of little personal toys and things on the twi budget,

using the 10% given by people living paycheck to paycheck- vpw bought

luxuries so we wouldn't have to.

[Human without the bean]

So, vpw dropped dead young so we wouldn't have to.

That's got a nice rhyme to it Could be a song title.

[waysider]

VP had lots of fun tooling around on one of .jpg"]THESE so you wouldn't have to.

[skyrider]

Thanks for the laughs, guys.

Yeah, ole vic sure was a swell fella wasn't he? Drinking, smoking, séance attending, porno studies, Harley riding, checking all types of vices.....SO THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO.

See.....he carried that "burden" for us, so that we could just keep our hands on the plow and do the Lord's work, day in day out. Not let that pesky devil come sneaking around and entice us to lust after the flesh and all that. And, vpw had to ask God for signs.....so that he could learn about the mannies and then, teach us in his super-duper adv class NOT to seek after signs.

Well.....I, for one, am sure thankful that vic slogged thru the darkness just for me.

And......I, in turn, went into vic's cult to learn the DECEPTIVE WAYS of false teachers.

I had to go thru this ilk to be sure that God was showing me how this ilk worked.

And, now......my kids don't EVER have to get near a cult again. They know the hardships,

the challenges, the moving every three years, and the stress in cult life. My boys saw it

with their own eyes.......and fast-tracked preparation with higher education.