When this movie came out, it was long-awaited, and some fans had high expectations for it. A few might have complained that the plot for the movie seemed a bit familiar and resembled at least 1 episode with lots of changes and a much, much bigger budget. In fact, with this movie unable to achieve blockbuster status despite the timing and the budget, it would have killed the franchise if someone didn't promise he could bring in the NEXT movie for a LOT less. Not only did he succeed, that movie was popular and became a hit, saving the franchise.
Name both movies.
A lot of screen-time was eaten up by beautiful, sweeping views of the Enterprise- which is why Kirk had to shuttle over rather than using the spacedock's transporters. The core plot seems taken from The Changeling. It was done because- with the success of Star Wars- it was thought this was THE moment for sci fi blockbusters to make lots of money. It did OK in the theaters, but was NOT a blockbuster and didn't justify the special effects budget. ST 2 was promised to be brought in on a lot less money, which was why it was greenlit. With all the screentime on a tighter story, it was a much better movie and fans and non-fans agreed.
Lee Marvin referred to this movie as "crap" and "just a dummy moneymaker", although he enjoyed the film. The movie has nothing to do with war, he stressed, and he was very pleased that he got to do The Big Red One (1980), which mirrored his own wartime experiences. Marvin also said many of the actors in this film were too old to play soldiers.
One scene required Lee Marvin to drive an armored truck with Charles Bronson riding shotgun. With cameras poised, Marvin was a no-show. He was eventually tracked down to a pub in Belgravia and was hauled into a car and taken to the studio, where coffee was poured down his throat. When on arrival he fell out of the car, Bronson flipped, "I'm going to f---ing kill you, Lee".
While filming, the star visited sick kids, via Make-A-Wish foundation, as his character in the film. 13-year-old Connor McGrath, a terminally ill fan from Edmonton, requested to attend the special event for the movie in January 2016, which turned out to be one of the two special screenings in New York and Los Angeles for the fans. He couldn't make it, due to the severity of his illness. The star heard his story, traveled to Edmonton, and surprised him with a private special screening of the film. The star said the boy was the first person ever to see the film. They kept in touch until Connor's passing a few months later. The star paid tribute to him on his social media pages.
The star also paid for two of the writers of the film to be on the set for input when the studio (20th Century Fox) refused to do so.
While filming, the star visited sick kids, via Make-A-Wish foundation, as his character in the film. 13-year-old Connor McGrath, a terminally ill fan from Edmonton, requested to attend the special event for the movie in January 2016, which turned out to be one of the two special screenings in New York and Los Angeles for the fans. He couldn't make it, due to the severity of his illness. The star heard his story, traveled to Edmonton, and surprised him with a private special screening of the film. The star said the boy was the first person ever to see the film. They kept in touch until Connor's passing a few months later. The star paid tribute to him on his social media pages.
The star also paid for two of the writers of the film to be on the set for input when the studio (20th Century Fox) refused to do so.
On April Fool's Day, prior to release, the star posted on Twitter that the film would be rated PG-13, which prompted fan backlash as the character often swears and commits acts of graphic violence. Later that day, the star confirmed that it was a prank and the film would be R rated.
The opening credits was originally a placeholder, but the director found the parody titles funny enough to put in the movie. As a bonus, due to no actual names being in it, the filmmakers were not required to abide by guild rules about crew and actor credits.
This 1941 movie later had 4 sequels (all with the same actor). Actors in it include Claude Rains, Patric Knowles, and Ralph Bellamy. It also included Bela Lugosi as "Bela." However, nobody ever seems to remember he was in this movie- most remember it for exactly one actor and Maria Ouspenskaya (who do not play "a couple" at any point, neither in this movie nor real life.) It was written by Curt Siodmak. It also had a remake in 2010 with some recognizable actors.
The second best-remembered quote:
"The way you walked was thorny though no fault of your own,
but as the rain enters the soil, the river enters the sea,
Homages to this film can be found in the Twilight Zone movie and an episode of Star Trek the Next Generation (and, I imagine, other places).
One actor was so convinced of the movie's lack of potential that, when offered a percent of the gross or a flat fee of $75,000 for his three days' work, he took the upfront payment. Had he taken the gross percentage, he would have been worth an additional $3-4 million. Interestingly, the same actor considers the film among his personal favorites of all his films. He described working in it as the funniest experience he had on a set.
In the first segment of the TZ movie, a bunch of lost soldiers in Vietnam bemoan the fact that they shouldn't have "fragged Lt. Niedermeyer." At the end of AH, when describing the futures of the main characters, Niedermeyer is mentioned as being killed by his own troops in Vietnam.
In the "Qpid" episode of STTNG, Worf grabs Geordi's lute, smashes it, and sheepishly says "Sorry" (a la Belushi in AH).
Donald Sutherland blew off the gross but said it was one of the funniest experiences he ever had.
This movie could TECHNICALLY be described as an exploration of the path to stardom, with glimpses of the drawbacks on the way there.
One character abruptly abandons the lead at a phone-call from their agent, another expresses the loneliness of the road and having to leave home behind, and the lead must continually face the prospect of selling out rather than following his dream of making millions of people happy.
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Why didn't you say that 2 days ago Mr. Wolf? Your right Rottie, They are pretty good. Makes it tough on me to get my 2 cents in.
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I was way off going with "The Terminal", except that it didn't have any articles of clothing in the title. I assume WordWolf is correct, but I'm not familiar with it. But that's not unusual.
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Stallone. Also well-known for reprising his Rocky role. I can't see him in Eddie Murphy's role in BHC, though... George
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A lot of screen-time was eaten up by beautiful, sweeping views of the Enterprise- which is why Kirk had to shuttle over rather than using the spacedock's transporters. The core plot seems taken from The Changeling. It was done because- with the success of Star Wars- it was thought this was THE moment for sci fi blockbusters to make lots of money. It did OK in the theaters, but was NOT a blockbuster and didn't justify the special effects budget. ST 2 was promised to be brought in on a lot less money, which was why it was greenlit. With all the screentime on a tighter story, it was a much better movie and fans and non-fans agreed.
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Lee Marvin referred to this movie as "crap" and "just a dummy moneymaker", although he enjoyed the film. The movie has nothing to do with war, he stressed, and he was very pleased that he got to do The Big Red One (1980), which mirrored his own wartime experiences. Marvin also said many of the actors in this film were too old to play soldiers.
One scene required Lee Marvin to drive an armored truck with Charles Bronson riding shotgun. With cameras poised, Marvin was a no-show. He was eventually tracked down to a pub in Belgravia and was hauled into a car and taken to the studio, where coffee was poured down his throat. When on arrival he fell out of the car, Bronson flipped, "I'm going to f---ing kill you, Lee".
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That sounds to me like Dirty Dozen. Could it be that easy?
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It could. You're up.
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Human is up.
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I know I'm up but I've been busy. If someone wants to take it go ahead.
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Human? Still around?
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While filming, the star visited sick kids, via Make-A-Wish foundation, as his character in the film. 13-year-old Connor McGrath, a terminally ill fan from Edmonton, requested to attend the special event for the movie in January 2016, which turned out to be one of the two special screenings in New York and Los Angeles for the fans. He couldn't make it, due to the severity of his illness. The star heard his story, traveled to Edmonton, and surprised him with a private special screening of the film. The star said the boy was the first person ever to see the film. They kept in touch until Connor's passing a few months later. The star paid tribute to him on his social media pages.
The star also paid for two of the writers of the film to be on the set for input when the studio (20th Century Fox) refused to do so.
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While filming, the star visited sick kids, via Make-A-Wish foundation, as his character in the film. 13-year-old Connor McGrath, a terminally ill fan from Edmonton, requested to attend the special event for the movie in January 2016, which turned out to be one of the two special screenings in New York and Los Angeles for the fans. He couldn't make it, due to the severity of his illness. The star heard his story, traveled to Edmonton, and surprised him with a private special screening of the film. The star said the boy was the first person ever to see the film. They kept in touch until Connor's passing a few months later. The star paid tribute to him on his social media pages.
The star also paid for two of the writers of the film to be on the set for input when the studio (20th Century Fox) refused to do so.
On April Fool's Day, prior to release, the star posted on Twitter that the film would be rated PG-13, which prompted fan backlash as the character often swears and commits acts of graphic violence. Later that day, the star confirmed that it was a prank and the film would be R rated.
The opening credits was originally a placeholder, but the director found the parody titles funny enough to put in the movie. As a bonus, due to no actual names being in it, the filmmakers were not required to abide by guild rules about crew and actor credits.
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Wild guess here- "DEADPOOL?"
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Yes.
Ryan Reynolds is a stand-up guy. Not only is he big with Make a Wish, he actually paid the writers to attend the filming.
And, he's a bit of a practical joker.
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This 1941 movie later had 4 sequels (all with the same actor). Actors in it include Claude Rains, Patric Knowles, and Ralph Bellamy. It also included Bela Lugosi as "Bela." However, nobody ever seems to remember he was in this movie- most remember it for exactly one actor and Maria Ouspenskaya (who do not play "a couple" at any point, neither in this movie nor real life.) It was written by Curt Siodmak. It also had a remake in 2010 with some recognizable actors.
The second best-remembered quote:
"The way you walked was thorny though no fault of your own,
but as the rain enters the soil, the river enters the sea,
so tears run to a predestined end."
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Were you in it?
Just checking.
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I doubt I would have gotten it, but Raf's implied clue makes at least one guess likely.
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OK
The Werewolf?
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That is not the name of this film, nor its remake.
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The Wolfman?
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That's it!
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Homages to this film can be found in the Twilight Zone movie and an episode of Star Trek the Next Generation (and, I imagine, other places).
One actor was so convinced of the movie's lack of potential that, when offered a percent of the gross or a flat fee of $75,000 for his three days' work, he took the upfront payment. Had he taken the gross percentage, he would have been worth an additional $3-4 million. Interestingly, the same actor considers the film among his personal favorites of all his films. He described working in it as the funniest experience he had on a set.
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Does a horse die in the movie? (In the movie, not the filming.)
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Yes.
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I, state your name, do solemnly swear that I think this is "Animal House."
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Correct.
In the first segment of the TZ movie, a bunch of lost soldiers in Vietnam bemoan the fact that they shouldn't have "fragged Lt. Niedermeyer." At the end of AH, when describing the futures of the main characters, Niedermeyer is mentioned as being killed by his own troops in Vietnam.
In the "Qpid" episode of STTNG, Worf grabs Geordi's lute, smashes it, and sheepishly says "Sorry" (a la Belushi in AH).
Donald Sutherland blew off the gross but said it was one of the funniest experiences he ever had.
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This movie could TECHNICALLY be described as an exploration of the path to stardom, with glimpses of the drawbacks on the way there.
One character abruptly abandons the lead at a phone-call from their agent, another expresses the loneliness of the road and having to leave home behind, and the lead must continually face the prospect of selling out rather than following his dream of making millions of people happy.
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