ex, I don't remember the details of how we were related. I just remember that one time we were talking about our family backgrounds and we figured that out. It all went back to the Boston area where my mother's side of the family and her family were from.
I think if they had told us beforehand, they would have lost half the WOWs. Who really wants to go to podunk, South Dakota?
I had grown up on the east coast - the 'burbs of NYC and my family had plenty of friends, etc. there, so I was always going in there - I loved Manhattan and Brooklyn, where my mom and dad's friends lived.
I had requested, for WOW and interim year, the southwest, southeast, south - somewhere different. It would be nice to get away from the east coast for a change.
So, I could not believe when I went WOW that I was sent to - drum roll - a suburb of DC in Maryland. Again, we were right on the border of DC. My motorcycle friend I made would take me cruising Georgetown on hot summer nights. Ok, back to the east coast.
Then I went in the corps. Interim year is coming up, surely they'll send me somewhere different. Well, to my surprise - Brooklyn!! In a way this was bad, since I wanted another area of the country, but it was also just awesome! I loved NYC - Brooklyn!!!! Coney Island, fresh seafood, a hop skip and jump by train to Manhattan, my parents friends, their best friends in Jersey who I spent quite a few weekends with on the Jersey Shore at the end of my interim year. Well, I was ecstatic. But, back to the east coast again. I couldn't figure out why they sent me there since I had grown up there. Oh well, who am I to question God and my good fortune.
DM could not figure out why I was so happy. She years later told me, they thought it would "make or break" me - what douches - why would they want to "make or break" people?
I told her well of course I was happy, I had grown up around there. She couldn't believe it. Neither she nor TWI knew that.
My father's company was transferred from Madison Avenue, NYC, to the Midwest when I was a senior in high school. Since the rest of my family got in the Word - TWI - in the midwest, TWI leadership assumed we were midwesterners.
I wonder, if they had ever bothered to find out, if they would have kept sending me back to the east coast urban areas.
I'm also glad I didn't tell DM I had grown up there, or I can almost guarantee my interim year assignment would have been changed. Can't send someone back to the place they grew up and loved, can you?
Funny how they told us that they were getting revvie from God about placements. What a crock! With me they all believed the cr@p that people say about Reno. Its a wild and crazy town doncha know....BS...its a hick town. Now Vegas...that's a different ball of wax. But Reno was and is still just a hick town, full of rednecks. We hold shows in the Reno Livestock Event Center. Yup it has a dirt floor and smells of hay and cow poop.
Anyway they sent me to a tiny backwoods joint on my first WOW year and I loved it, then in res they transfered me from Emporia to Gunnison (oh please torture me some more!) But my interim year they sent me to a state that I had gotten into a very traumatic accident in when I was a child. They new about the accident because I had told someone (can't remember who now) and they had told the great and powerful Rev. Lardbutt. But God had told them to send me there! Oh Horse pucky!
Well eyes, you know darn well you were sent to that last one on purpose. A make or break scenario?
I think they thought I was going to be quaking in my boots - a midwesterner going to the "big city." It was a make or break thing. Although in this case, the joke was on them. That's why DM was so puzzled that I was so happy about it. She thought I was going to freak out or something.
It was later, with corps assignments, many of them were to "make or break" people. What dweebs. Or, if they were grooming a stand out corps man, they'd give him a large assignment to see how well he handled it. Of course leadership was about exhorting those under them to get classes together. They never got one together, but had meetings with underlings to exhort them. Then they could brag how "on fire" their area was. I never, ever saw a leader witness except for VP and JL.
WOW assignments weren't by "revelation" either. From talking to people who did them, it was based on, who had a car, etc. Absolutely nothing spiritual about them at all.
So Eyes, did that last assignment make or break you :)/>
Neither...joke was on them. I did well there. It was my WOW sister that was f&&99ed up. But they turned it around and kicked me off the field and out of the Corps....But they didn't tell me why until a few months later...after I had been running the Area of Northern Nevada for months at their request...Go figure. They couldn't break me so they kicked me out. They didn't want me to succede there. Hehehehe joke was on them!
I specifically remember hearing VPW brag about how assignments were done by revelation.
He bragged because he said it contrasted with the way that mainstream religion assigned missionaries.
(basing them on "sense knowledge" information.)
He even did a little smug, mocking imitation of them.
Anybody remember that?
It wouldn't be so ridiculous if he didn't turn around and do the very thing he mocked.
I remember well one branch leader who decided to take me on. First the background then I'll bring him into the story.
My then hubby and I were sent to Pocotello, Idaho for our WOW year. NOT exactly the place to send 2 hippies and 2 single women as the only family going there. We were allowed to rent separate places, which was the only good part of the whole WOW experience. The ladies found an apartment and we found a single wide mobile home not too far away from each other.
By the end of the first month there we had our nice rednecked neighbors shooting off their guns at night to get our attention. The next morning we'd get presents from them ... shotgun shells left on the windshield of our car. Next the girls were over one day and when I walked down the hallway back to our bedroom, I encountered one of them near the doorway. She had plastered my hubby against the wall and had one big liplock on him as he struggled to get free from her. (He wasn't a big man physically, she was actually bigger than him in height and weight.) If I wasn't so angry at what I saw I probably would have laughed given how funny it did look. I asked very loudly 'just what the hell do you think you are doing?' and she then realized I was there. She backed off him quick and said 'oh I was just giving him a little hug for being such a great man of God'. I said something like 'yeah, it looked like that too, uh huh, now get the hell out of our house'.
Next I call VP and told him about what was going on. He said 'leave and leave now, you can go out WOW again another year, but that is not the place for you to be this year'. With his blessing, we packed up everything in our car and drove home. We stayed at my mom's house when we first got back till we could find an apartment. Then the branch leader heard we were there and it was just a couple/few days. Next, one morning at like 7:30 am we heard LOUD persistant knocking on the outside porch screen door by someone. We had been out with friends till 4 am so with just a couple hours of sleep it took me a minute to get up, get a robe on and walk outside to the screen door to see what the racket was about. It was the Branch leader, with the local Twig and asst. Twig leaders. I asked them to return later, explaining we had just gotten to bed. He insistsed on talking to us right away. I finally said ok, come on inside and he stomped into the house.
I went in the bedroom and told my hubby to get up and then went into the kitchen to grab a Pepsi to try to get caffine in me to wake me up a little. That totally annoyed the BL because I kept him waiting and he said so. I told him if he wanted to talk to me he could, but he had to let me be coherent or forget it and leave. Of course he stayed.
I sat down, lit up a cig and then he started.....'GET YOUR ASSES BACK TO IDAHO RIGHT NOW!' Yelled at the top of his lungs. I just looked at him and said no, sorry, we aren't going back and VP told us to leave and his word overrules anything you have to say to me as far as I'm concerned. He proceeded to start calling me nice names such as slut, whore, etc and accused me of coming 'home' to where all my friends were so I could sleep around with the guys. I said to him 'Ummm, I am married and faithful, I think you should be more concerned with the asst. twig leader here who's pregnant with a married man's child'. That was supposed to be secret info that only the 'few' knew, but I had learned about it and I wish I had a picture of the look on her face when I said it. She thought I had no idea till I said that about her. It also pretty much the key to his explosive 'GET YOUR ASSES BACK TO IDAHO NOW!' once again.
I said 'if you have nothing more to say than the same things, please leave now or I'm going to help you leave by throwing you thru the picture window'. He saw I was dead serious and while I may not have been able physically to actually toss him thru a window, I could call the police and ask for an officer to come there and escort him off my property. He and the girls took their leave informing me as they walked out that I was banned from every twig in the entire state. I thought that was pretty cool and said so, which just upset him more. Hahaha. We had already decided, due to lack of jobs in that area, we were going to move to the state my hubby was originally from anyway, the BL just didn't know that and I wasn't about to tell him. Being banned from twigs in a state I wouldn't be living in didn't do me any harm at all.
To this day I still don't get it why that BL didn't *get it* that we left the WOW field because VP told us to due to the danger he felt we were in and the exchange between our WOW sister and my hubby. Talk about being on a power trip ... to think that he could order us to go against what VP said to do and we'd obey him. Just totally crazy and this all happened in 1977, long before the face meltings became popular.
I had gotten one from that twig leader a year prior also. Or should I say she tried to give me one. She started yelling and I told her to shove it or something like that and turned around and walked out of her apartment. Next she tried it to my mom, yelling about me and my mom told her to quit calling me names and accusing me of untrue things, none of which was a twig leader's business anyway and then she also walked out of the woman's apartment. The twig leader gave up at that point, there was no one else she could talk to and try to turn them against me. I didn't hang out with anyone from the twig, all my friends were non TWI people.
Anyway, that's how my WOW year started and quickly ended. I never went again, no desire in the least. I never ran into that BL again thru the years, but did get into it years later with one from Florida who had the same attitude. He really didn't like me, but put up with me cause he did love my mom dearly. He only had to deal with me when I was there visiting her anyway and then only if he happened to stop by or we went to some event together and ran into him.
I never did do authority well and I don't do as I'm told to do without questioning it from all angles first to make sure it's something good for me. Needless to say, I spent a lot of my time in TWI upsetting everyone higher up than me, which was almost everyone since I never went higher than the Int. class by choice.
The "revelation" to send you to Idaho must have changed :biglaugh:/>
Physical danger on the WOW field was always downplayed, if not ignored (just believe Gawd) and the idea of two single guys living with two single women shut plenty of doors in some of the areas that WOWs went to.
A friend was sent to some town in North Dakota, which he hated, but gamely hung in with. At the end of the year, he decided while still at the rock to give it another try. He got sent to....the same town in North Dakota.
I wish-he sucked it up and went back ! this was not a lost soul type either, but a tough ex biker, who really wanted to trust in the way. in the late 70's, if you were a 'committed believer', it took a lot to rebel. I saw him 5 minutes after he got the news ,dazed, asking me what God has against him. I don't recall what I said, but I was NOT going to give him the you were sent by revelation line.
If Charles Manson and Jim Jones had completed pfal and came in with completed applications
and the required fees,
they would have been accepted.
Real Christian groups are a LOT more selective about who they accept into programs representing them.
That makes it a LOT easier to avoid disaster than asking for revelation as to whether or not
your "family" got a rapist or child molester.
However,
that is completely NOT what the original poster is asking about.
They asked about the processes that twi used to assign people and locations.
WW, you are right about CM, or JJ being allowed to go WOW, if they had the money. Thankfully, my WOW family was OK; it could have been worse. My WOW sister lost her job in May, and never looked for a new one. We were so poor; we barely had enough money to feed ourselves. I can't remember how many months rent we didn't pay, due to a lack of money. I lost a lot of weight because I didn't have the money for food. My WOW year was terrible; I was so happy to leave the field!!
Acid? who said Acid? I've been looking for some for a couple decades.. last I knew the real suppliers got busted inside of an abandoned missile silo or something.
If have have any acid left over: forward it to:
The Squirrel
New Knoxville, Ohio.
*they* will know where to send it..
If you offer me morning glory seeds.. well, I will generally spit in your direction.
WW--Thanks so much for looking that up for me. Interesting isn't it?? Anyone want to add anything to this?
NL, you mentioned that you had a great WOW year. Most of the people I know, had terrible WOW years. One year was more than enough for me; Brenda H from the 14th Corps wanted me to do it a second time; I joined the Navy instead.
So today my WOW sisterand I were reminiscing about 41 years ago
....yeah....ahem ahem.....wierwille said the Illuminati / wrong-seed bunch were going to take over our country…fortunately for everyone us WOWs kept that from happening
Sorry we couldn’t save the day this time around (just kidding)…oh did I mention we’re moving to Canada (just kidding)
So today my WOW sisterand I were reminiscing about 41 years ago
....yeah....ahem ahem.....wierwille said the Illuminati / wrong-seed bunch were going to take over our country…fortunately for everyone us WOWs kept that from happening
Sorry we couldn’t save the day this time around (just kidding)…oh did I mention we’re moving to Canada (just kidding)
Happy 4th of July to all !!!!!!
T-Bone, I think VPW was full of Caca!!! Happy 4th to you also!!
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ex, I don't remember the details of how we were related. I just remember that one time we were talking about our family backgrounds and we figured that out. It all went back to the Boston area where my mother's side of the family and her family were from.
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A friend was sent to some town in North Dakota, which he hated, but gamely hung in with. At the end of the year, he decided while still at the rock to give it another try. He got sent to....the same town in North Dakota.
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Did he give them the finger and storm off?
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I wish-he sucked it up and went back ! this was not a lost soul type either, but a tough ex biker, who really wanted to trust in the way. in the late 70's, if you were a 'committed believer', it took a lot to rebel. I saw him 5 minutes after he got the news ,dazed, asking me what God has against him. I don't recall what I said, but I was NOT going to give him the you were sent by revelation line.
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Interesting posts you pulled up there, WW.
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That thing about bigwigs having lots of meetings and getting on the local leaders to get
classes together but never speaking to anyone themselves to sign them up reminds me...
The 5 supposed "gift" ministries...
vpw made definitions for each that were custom-made so someone could claim they all
applied to him without anyone aware he stacked the deck.
An APOSTLE is a "SENT ONE"-in the Bible.
In vpw-speak, it's "someone who brings new light to his generation.
It may be old light, but it is new to that generation."
What does it mean? I don't know, but that tortured definition sure seems
constructed to slap onto vpw.
He also said (I heard him say it, as recorded in the "Heart of the Way Corps" series)
that the primary function of an evangelist is NOT to actually speak to the people
himself, but to get the locals "fired up" so that THEY go out and win people.
Not only constructed to apply to him, it isolates him from the dirty work once again.
He gives a rousing speech..."Ok, my job is done. Get out there."
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Yeah....and vpw-speak of a prophet was two-fold: 1)fore-tell and 2)forth-tell
of which, the predominant aspect was to forth-tell, to bring forth the Word.
And.....as you said, the evangelist was to "fire-up" the disciples so that they
would go out there and "win people."
And.....was the gift ministry of a pastor to encourage and comfort the disciples
so that, then they'd bring comfort to their twiggies?
And.....the Teacher films his class so little minions can peddle his wares
with instructions to just get others to "the class" and let it teach them.
None of this jives with scripture in the book of acts.....where Paul, Barnabus,
Silas, Peter, Stephen and others labored fervently to reach and teach and heal
all who would believe.
Wierwille's definitions and hierarchy was simply masking the caste system of old.
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WW, you are right about CM, or JJ being allowed to go WOW, if they had the money. Thankfully, my WOW family was OK; it could have been worse. My WOW sister lost her job in May, and never looked for a new one. We were so poor; we barely had enough money to feed ourselves. I can't remember how many months rent we didn't pay, due to a lack of money. I lost a lot of weight because I didn't have the money for food. My WOW year was terrible; I was so happy to leave the field!!
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Ham, you are so funny!!
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NL, you mentioned that you had a great WOW year. Most of the people I know, had terrible WOW years. One year was more than enough for me; Brenda H from the 14th Corps wanted me to do it a second time; I joined the Navy instead.
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WW, I would have!!
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So today my WOW sister and I were reminiscing about 41 years ago
....yeah....ahem ahem.....wierwille said the Illuminati / wrong-seed bunch were going to take over our country…fortunately for everyone us WOWs kept that from happening
Sorry we couldn’t save the day this time around (just kidding)…oh did I mention we’re moving to Canada (just kidding)
Happy 4th of July to all !!!!!!
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LOL T-Bone!
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T-Bone, I think VPW was full of Caca!!! Happy 4th to you also!!
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