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"But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: That no flesh should glory in his presence. But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord."
1 Corinthians 1:27-31, KJV
"Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;"
1 Corinthians 3:21, KJV
"And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another. For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?"
1 Corinthians 4:6-7, KJV
"For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!"
1 Corinthians 9:16, KJV
"But he that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord. For not he that commendeth himself is approved, but whom the Lord commendeth . . . Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God."
1 Corinthians 10:17-18, 31, KJV
"For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake."
2 Corinthians 4:5, KJV
"But he that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord."
2 Corinthians 10:17, KJV
"Of such an one will I glory: yet of myself I will not glory, but in mine infirmities. For though I would desire to glory, I shall not be a fool; for I will say the truth: but now I forbear, lest any man should think of me above that which he seeth me to be, or that he heareth of me."
2 Corinthians 12:5-6, KJV
"Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another."
Galatians 5:26, KJV
"But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world."
Galatians 6:14, KJV
"Nor of men sought we glory, neither of you, nor yet of others, when we might have been burdensome, as the apostles of Christ."
1 Thessalonians 2:6, KJV
"Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning."
James 1:17, KJV
"How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is a worm?"
Job 25:6, KJV
"But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people."
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"this in your bible none of it is holy"
I think I see your point.
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thanks waysider
thank you my dear friend to the truth
I am blessed my you thanks
with love and a holy kiss Roy
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Pinned at the top of the doctrinal forum we are asked to avoid costly long copied posts.
Some of the newer posters down here have been making extremely lengthy posts. I would like to point out that the doctrinal forum is for discussion, not recruitment and not lecturing. It is a place where people can have a conversation with each other and/or friendly debate about doctrinal issues.
Posts that are as lengthy as some of them have been more recently, are not condusive to conversation and take up a lot of bandwidth. In addition, if you are posting information that is taken from another website, you are potentially infriging on a copyright. Please simply post a link and a small sampling of what can be found on the website instead of cutting and pasting the entire thing.
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On top of that,
you missed the obvious meaning.
Look-
take it from the perspective of the people who worked on it.
I got this from researchers who never heard of twi, vpw, etc.
King James really wanted a good, reliable Bible people could read and use.
He thought the Tyndale Bible was a STEP in the right direction- that's why
there's influences from the Tyndale in the KJV.
So, King James assigned a commission- translate a version of the Bible, in
English, superior to all previously existing forms. The team was VERY dedicated.
The result was the 1611 King James Version.
For 1611, it was cutting-edge.
For 2012, it's quaint and folksy.
Centuries of improvements have gone into other versions.
(A few were added incrementally to the KJV.)
So, at the time, it was ground-breaking. Christians at the time now had a Bible
good enough to be relied on and read at churches-in English.
So, King James was pleased-as would any Christian at the time.
The staff was pleased-as you might imagine, they'd done a great job with the
tools at hand.
So, the staff wrote something to the effect of "we are thankful we have a King
that cared enough to have this done-it will bless all the Christians of the nation."
That's really all their introduction meant-and it meant little to anyone not King
James because the book is what mattered, not their introduction-a letter, really.
That's why King James Versions don't carry that letter nowadays.
So, the entire subject of the text-dump was a non-issue. It does not appear in
King James Version Bibles.
Most importantly, it certainly doesn't appear in "MY" Bible because I use a
New American Standard Bible, and have for about a decade. That was produced in
the 20th century, and does not include personal correspondence by translational
staff from 1611.
Now, if you want to believe that introduction wasn't holy,
then I'd thoroughly agree-and point out nobody cares.
If you want to believe that the Bible isn't holy,
well, that's your privilege, but that huge text-dump
did nothing to prove it.
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"But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: That no flesh should glory in his presence. But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord."
1 Corinthians 1:27-31, KJV
"Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;"
1 Corinthians 3:21, KJV
"And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another. For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?"
1 Corinthians 4:6-7, KJV
"For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!"
1 Corinthians 9:16, KJV
"But he that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord. For not he that commendeth himself is approved, but whom the Lord commendeth . . . Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God."
1 Corinthians 10:17-18, 31, KJV
"For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake."
2 Corinthians 4:5, KJV
"But he that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord."
2 Corinthians 10:17, KJV
"Of such an one will I glory: yet of myself I will not glory, but in mine infirmities. For though I would desire to glory, I shall not be a fool; for I will say the truth: but now I forbear, lest any man should think of me above that which he seeth me to be, or that he heareth of me."
2 Corinthians 12:5-6, KJV
"Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another."
Galatians 5:26, KJV
"But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world."
Galatians 6:14, KJV
"Nor of men sought we glory, neither of you, nor yet of others, when we might have been burdensome, as the apostles of Christ."
1 Thessalonians 2:6, KJV
"Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning."
James 1:17, KJV
"How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is a worm?"
Job 25:6, KJV
"But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people."
Psalms 22:6, KJV
my KJV has it
got it 1990 from Steve Spenseer
I will not give King glory when kown better
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Then I think it is PECULIAR that any modern Bible had that. I've owned and bought/given away a number
of KJV (back in my twi days), and none of them included that. I won't claim yours doesn't-
you're looking at it now and I'm not, so I'll accept it's there.
That's peculiar, but it is certainly possible.
I will agree that it has no point nowadays. I appreciate what King James did- he set up the
team, he paid for the work, and it was ground-breaking 500 years ago- but I won't go beyond that.
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