I don't think I would go so far as to say it's a lie. I think, instead, we might consider that the way it's been represented and promoted leaves a lot to be desired.
It sounds to me like you've had a bit of an epiphany regarding innerrancy and fundamentalism.
In order to put things in perspective, we need to acknowledge that the Bible isn't actually a "book", it's a collection of books and writings, some closely related to others and some not. Wierwille's idea of sequential ordering (doctrine, reproof, correction, etc.,etc.) is a man-made concept. When men sat down to compile the various writings, they had to decide on some sort of order in which to arrange them. That order was influenced by whatever agendas held sway over them at that moment in time. This is why Wierwille's idea of everything having to fit like a hand in a glove is seriously flawed. Everything isn't mathematically accurate or scientifically precise. There really are contradictions.... And, that's O.K. Having to constantly rationalize in order to eliminate contradiction, make things line up, fit together, or whatever term you choose to use, is not O.K, in my opinion. It's an exercise in futility. Some people call that "putting God in a box". It would have to be a pretty big box, one would think.
The PFAL class is an attempt to put God in a box, a handy, dandy, all-in-one, packaged kit that includes all the parts.
Administrations, to whom it's written, used before, figures of speech, and all the other so-called keys to understanding the Bible are really just man made contrivance. Maybe some of them serve a purpose. Maybe they don't. I don't know. They're still a man-made (prone to error) approach to the subject.
Does that negate the "book", itself? Well, I don't know the answer to that. I think it does negate, however, the idea that everything has to fit together neatly or "the whole thing falls apart". When you accept that everything can't possibly fit together neatly, in one little box, it frees you to see things from a whole new, larger perspective.
however, there are a lot of people way ahead of you on this topic but i appreciate the sentiment.
the light and truth of science is busting the myths of the bible almost on a daily basis.
take for instance the story of the ark and noah. totally busted. a scientist by the name of Ian Plymer set out once to actually prove the myth of the ark and ended up doing a complete 180 due to his own imperical research.the video is on the history channel fairly often.
this gives me hope.
that one day the light of knowledge will one day burn away the myth and mentally crippleing supertition of religion and replace it with truth.
the bible belongs on the shelf next to compiliations of greek mythology.
btw. when illusionist Penn Gillette was asked what turned him into an athiest he cheerfully answered "studying the bible"
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Hey there, Roy. It's always good to see you.
I don't think I would go so far as to say it's a lie. I think, instead, we might consider that the way it's been represented and promoted leaves a lot to be desired.
It sounds to me like you've had a bit of an epiphany regarding innerrancy and fundamentalism.
In order to put things in perspective, we need to acknowledge that the Bible isn't actually a "book", it's a collection of books and writings, some closely related to others and some not. Wierwille's idea of sequential ordering (doctrine, reproof, correction, etc.,etc.) is a man-made concept. When men sat down to compile the various writings, they had to decide on some sort of order in which to arrange them. That order was influenced by whatever agendas held sway over them at that moment in time. This is why Wierwille's idea of everything having to fit like a hand in a glove is seriously flawed. Everything isn't mathematically accurate or scientifically precise. There really are contradictions.... And, that's O.K. Having to constantly rationalize in order to eliminate contradiction, make things line up, fit together, or whatever term you choose to use, is not O.K, in my opinion. It's an exercise in futility. Some people call that "putting God in a box". It would have to be a pretty big box, one would think.
The PFAL class is an attempt to put God in a box, a handy, dandy, all-in-one, packaged kit that includes all the parts.
Administrations, to whom it's written, used before, figures of speech, and all the other so-called keys to understanding the Bible are really just man made contrivance. Maybe some of them serve a purpose. Maybe they don't. I don't know. They're still a man-made (prone to error) approach to the subject.
Does that negate the "book", itself? Well, I don't know the answer to that. I think it does negate, however, the idea that everything has to fit together neatly or "the whole thing falls apart". When you accept that everything can't possibly fit together neatly, in one little box, it frees you to see things from a whole new, larger perspective.
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thanks waysider
yes it gives you a understanding that works
it good to see you too my friend
with love and a holy kiss Roy
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thanks roy,hey better late than never eh?
however, there are a lot of people way ahead of you on this topic but i appreciate the sentiment.
the light and truth of science is busting the myths of the bible almost on a daily basis.
take for instance the story of the ark and noah. totally busted. a scientist by the name of Ian Plymer set out once to actually prove the myth of the ark and ended up doing a complete 180 due to his own imperical research.the video is on the history channel fairly often.
this gives me hope.
that one day the light of knowledge will one day burn away the myth and mentally crippleing supertition of religion and replace it with truth.
the bible belongs on the shelf next to compiliations of greek mythology.
btw. when illusionist Penn Gillette was asked what turned him into an athiest he cheerfully answered "studying the bible"
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thanks faith no more
is not that I don't love holy scripture and that it was inspired by holy spirit
bible is only a shell that man took credit for as if they wrote it
but it was written years before they were even born
I worship love which is God
just I prove the bible wrong means nothing
the King James pulled hose over them as did the Way pulled hose over us
I just pointed it out
with love and a holy kiss Roy
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