Neither was loy- maybe not with a degree mill doctorate, but he did sport a degree mill corps grad and ordination papers.
I don't remember him giving anyone else much credit for his "research".
Like the time he came up with the "new light" about the purpose of the Sphinx. I had previously read practically the same thing word for word in Bullinger's Witness of the Stars..
Like the time he came up with the "new light" about the purpose of the Sphinx. I had previously read practically the same thing word for word in Bullinger's Witness of the Stars..
So very much has been ripped off from Bullinger. Also Charles Welsch. I listened to the University of Life Romans tapes while in-residence. I also read The Just and Justifier in the same time frame. Much of what Wierwille presented came right out of Welch's book. Welsch was an under study of Bullinger and a real scholar and a real author. Unlike Wierwille and Martindale.
Administrations also came straight out of The Companion Bible. With some minor modifications of course. No doubt a weak attempt to obfuscate that the material was lifted.
More proof of plagiarism and debunking the idea that Wierwille's topics were well known in contemporary times as opposed to concealed since the first century.
shoulders of giants" thing- with the work already completed as a starting point, you
can get further from there.
Looking back on my own way brained, former self, I understand now why Wierwille needed blind obedience from his followers. If it weren't for the cult control structure and brainwashing methods that are common in the way Wierwille is quickly exposed as a liar and a thief. I remember reading through Bullinger's works (Welsch and others as well) and finding nothing wrong with the material being the same but stamped with Wierwille as the source. Looking back, my old way self seems like a stranger to me now. Of course, now it's so painfully obvious that Wierwille and the way international always have been a sham.
I almost feel duty bound to publicly post every bit of information I know about them, in hopes others will not fall prey as I did.
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Plagiarism is indeed a serious thing in the real world... no quicker way to get kicked out of a real school.
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Very nicely said. Wierwille was not as smart as his degree mill doctorate would suggest.
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Neither was loy- maybe not with a degree mill doctorate, but he did sport a degree mill corps grad and ordination papers.
I don't remember him giving anyone else much credit for his "research".
Like the time he came up with the "new light" about the purpose of the Sphinx. I had previously read practically the same thing word for word in Bullinger's Witness of the Stars..
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So very much has been ripped off from Bullinger. Also Charles Welsch. I listened to the University of Life Romans tapes while in-residence. I also read The Just and Justifier in the same time frame. Much of what Wierwille presented came right out of Welch's book. Welsch was an under study of Bullinger and a real scholar and a real author. Unlike Wierwille and Martindale.
Administrations also came straight out of The Companion Bible. With some minor modifications of course. No doubt a weak attempt to obfuscate that the material was lifted.
More proof of plagiarism and debunking the idea that Wierwille's topics were well known in contemporary times as opposed to concealed since the first century.
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Although Bullinger used the more cumbersome phrase "dispensations" and vpw used "administrations",
Bullinger mostly made more sense. (That happened when vpw deviated from Leonard, too,
as seen in the "definitions" of the "msnifestatons"-which went from clear and brief
to long-winded and inaccurate.)
Myself, I preferred "stewardships" to "administrations" because it highlights that we
are STEWARDING something that isn't ours. vpw's idea made it sound like we were
ADMINISTRATORS-and thus IN CHARGE.
As for the "dispensations/administrations", Bullinger numbered seven. vpw used that (seven)
but changed what was what. We lost one and gained one. We lost the original #6-"MILLENIAL",
the thousand years to come in Revelation 20, with Christ on Earth. We gained the new
#5- "Christ"- with Christ on Earth for ONE year during 4 Gospels.
If you're being shallow, this makes sense. "Millenial" has what, 2 verses describing it,
and "Christ" has 4 Gospels? But swapping in 1 year of what would otherwise be the LAST
year of "LAW" and removing 1000 years in exchange is more than a little lopsided.
Jesus himself said the tiniest part of the (Mosaic) Law wouldn't pass away until it
was all fulfilled- and finished it himself on the cross.
So, vpw was trying to vary from the sources he plagiarized, but-as often happened when he
tried it- he ended up making LESS sense. One would normally see steady IMPROVEMENTS if
one UNDERSTOOD the source material and proceeded from there. It's the "standing on the
shoulders of giants" thing- with the work already completed as a starting point, you
can get further from there.
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Looking back on my own way brained, former self, I understand now why Wierwille needed blind obedience from his followers. If it weren't for the cult control structure and brainwashing methods that are common in the way Wierwille is quickly exposed as a liar and a thief. I remember reading through Bullinger's works (Welsch and others as well) and finding nothing wrong with the material being the same but stamped with Wierwille as the source. Looking back, my old way self seems like a stranger to me now. Of course, now it's so painfully obvious that Wierwille and the way international always have been a sham.
I almost feel duty bound to publicly post every bit of information I know about them, in hopes others will not fall prey as I did.
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