I'm sorry you feel this way. We're all in the same boat together, each of us rowing, to try to make some headway. Not everyone has the same desire or ability to row. That's human nature. You'll find it in every sort of effort that has any degree of organization, whether it be the Cub Scouts, the PTA, the local soup kitchen or GSC. I wish you nothing but the best in your journey.
I wrote that Roy.....no need to hold my name back....I didn't say anything wrong.
I was trying to be kind. It was in response to you calling Socks prideful and then you called me prideful.......I think you also said Socks had gone "all Way ministry" then too. It was in response to you telling Socks it would be better if he didn't say anything at all. All because you didn't like the way he articulated his response. I was explaining to you why we initially posted. You put us on the defensive.
Now I think you are calling me hateful. Why do you make things so personal? Guess my feelings don't really matter, as long as you feel better coming here and calling me names.
I wasn't trying to save you but, have a conversation with you. I was trying to let you know I was thinking of you.
I am sorry your feelings got so hurt....but you simply could have asked me what I meant....on the forum or by PM.
Just to add Roy, I respect you enough to believe you are more than capable of being accountable for your words.
I hope you understand I am not going to spent a lot of time with you because I need to talk to geisha779 first
but I wanted to let you known I count you as my friend
thanks my friend
with love and a holy kiss Roy
thanks geisha779
I did try to ask you the best I could but MOD delete my tread
they wanted it to in private but it did not begin in private
when one hides one they have to hide another
Because I did not known what was wrong with this picture
but something bugged me
my rude atheist friend that wrote what his heart feel on how he was trying to handle his pain like you try to handle your pain the day you were kick out the Way ministry
rudeness is not that how we all handle things
I still love and I all ways will
This should be a time of joy not grumbling ... reconciliation rather than remembering offenses and hurt feelings...a time of hope instead of doubt.
otherwise we should spent time fighting but listen to every man heart
because we listen to others how can we ever help one person
remember apostle Paul time he spent in jail that he almost saved one person
your pride got in your way my pride got in my way
the rude person pride got in his way
but you and me did not try to help him by listen first to him first
this is not a recovering place
because if the Mod do not like it is moved to doctrine or deleted
true recovering should have doctrine alone with un-doctrine
one must cover everything
the unbelief I receive from being in the Way alone the beliefs I gained
so this a worse cult than I started with
while I love you geisha779 I am still human and no one wants to feel that they have been mock
that why I told you today and forgiven you as my way putting in the pass
can you forgive me because no is without blame I did wrong too
because I was letting my pride hold me back and were letting your pride no see the value in saying one heart and listening to him
we are not without sin
we are not without pride
we are the antichrist every time we let pride get in our way
I left the Way on my own, I wasn't kicked out......and one of the things I will never do again is pretend to agree to something or feign respect for a POV I don't respect. Why should I....I don't actually believe that is loving.
I read it....listened....gave it due consideration because that is respectful....and then I disagreed. You can't force me or shame me into accepting or respecting your atheist friend's POV.....but, that doesn't mean I am hateful or rude.. I can think for myself now....I am free that way.
We don't have to agree......or consider all things equally valid. When we disagree......it doesn't mean the world is coming to an end.
I wasn't mocking you.....but, I don't think I will convince you of that unless I agree with you and confess to whatever it is you are looking for. It is not going to happen. I am finished defending myself.
I am also not going to apologize for having a voice. No one has to like it.....or agree, but I have found my voice after years and years of replacing it with group think. I guard it now.
Although you have called me hateful, prideful, and assumed several erroneous things about me.....called GSC a cult. . . . that still doesn't mean I harbor any ill will toward you or am angry with you in any way. I am truly not, so there is nothing to forgive from my perspective. You are entitled to think and believe what you will.
I truly am sorry your feelings were hurt, and I hope you work whatever it is out in your life that you need to. Come here or go...it is up to you, only you know what you need to do for yourself. But, when you put something out there for discussion Roy, it may get discussed.
Good luck brother.....I really wish you nothing but the best.
lol! i knew you could'nt stay away.year, i gotta ask. do you ever proof read your posts before puting them up?if not i would beseech you to start doing so.
they would be far easier to read and more effective in your intention to get your point accross.
jus' sayin'
'til then i'm hanging around! neck deep in devil spirits and loving it!
"i'd rather laugh with the sinners then cry with the saints, the sinners are much more fun and only the good die young!!"
Roy, I think Geshia spoke the truth and she did it in love.
Also, I tried to email you a nice farewell from Groucho and myself and your email said it doesn't exist. Please make sure you have it correct. I checked and I used the address you provided.
the truth is we all be hateful and we can all be loving
both were wrong and both are right
have ever eastern customs by Bishop K.C. Pillai,
two children were fighting over small things lets say money the one wanted to receive knowing he could not repay
he said both were wrong
his words were you never ask because you did not a way to pay back to one child
his words were you should have given unto your brother knowing he did not have way to repay you
so is a right always right
Roy is hateful some times isn't everybody?
Geshia is hateful some times isn't everybody?
Dot Matrix is hateful some times isn't everybody?
I was trying to made peace
It does not matter who was right or who was wrong
my friend said "This should be a time of joy not grumbling ... reconciliation rather than remembering offenses and hurt feelings...a time of hope instead of doubt."
I was trying to fit it because right and wrong means nothing
but the love Roy has for Geshia does or the love Roy has for Dot does or even the love that Roy has for his atheist friend
Really Roy? You make peace by calling me out to publicly humiliate me and by calling me hateful and self-righteous? I would really hate to see what you do when you are angry and vindictive. How much must you think of your own words to let a simple comment fester to the boiling point that we have to do this? You have broken almost every forum rule that is posted......you called Socks a liar, prideful, and a whole host of other personal slams.....you accused WW of letting religion get in his way because he defended Socks.....and now this.
Goal accomplished....I am so totally creeped out and so uncomfortable that I highly doubt I will even read here again....let alone post. You got me back good for saying many of your posts go ignored and I wanted to check in with you....you forgot that I also said it hurt my heart for you. By the way... you said so yourself!! It is not my fault people don't listen to your YouTubes or respond to many of your posts....now I know why.
Can you stop now? Just leave me out of your posts....I don't want anything to do with you....you have effectively chased me off the internet. You actually frighten me.
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I'm sorry you feel this way. We're all in the same boat together, each of us rowing, to try to make some headway. Not everyone has the same desire or ability to row. That's human nature. You'll find it in every sort of effort that has any degree of organization, whether it be the Cub Scouts, the PTA, the local soup kitchen or GSC. I wish you nothing but the best in your journey.
Peace, Brother.
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I wrote that Roy.....no need to hold my name back....I didn't say anything wrong.
I was trying to be kind. It was in response to you calling Socks prideful and then you called me prideful.......I think you also said Socks had gone "all Way ministry" then too. It was in response to you telling Socks it would be better if he didn't say anything at all. All because you didn't like the way he articulated his response. I was explaining to you why we initially posted. You put us on the defensive.
Now I think you are calling me hateful. Why do you make things so personal? Guess my feelings don't really matter, as long as you feel better coming here and calling me names.
I wasn't trying to save you but, have a conversation with you. I was trying to let you know I was thinking of you.
I am sorry your feelings got so hurt....but you simply could have asked me what I meant....on the forum or by PM.
Just to add Roy, I respect you enough to believe you are more than capable of being accountable for your words.
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thanks waysider
I hope you understand I am not going to spent a lot of time with you because I need to talk to geisha779 first
but I wanted to let you known I count you as my friend
thanks my friend
with love and a holy kiss Roy
thanks geisha779
I did try to ask you the best I could but MOD delete my tread
they wanted it to in private but it did not begin in private
when one hides one they have to hide another
Because I did not known what was wrong with this picture
but something bugged me
my rude atheist friend that wrote what his heart feel on how he was trying to handle his pain like you try to handle your pain the day you were kick out the Way ministry
rudeness is not that how we all handle things
I still love and I all ways will
This should be a time of joy not grumbling ... reconciliation rather than remembering offenses and hurt feelings...a time of hope instead of doubt.
otherwise we should spent time fighting but listen to every man heart
because we listen to others how can we ever help one person
remember apostle Paul time he spent in jail that he almost saved one person
your pride got in your way my pride got in my way
the rude person pride got in his way
but you and me did not try to help him by listen first to him first
this is not a recovering place
because if the Mod do not like it is moved to doctrine or deleted
true recovering should have doctrine alone with un-doctrine
one must cover everything
the unbelief I receive from being in the Way alone the beliefs I gained
so this a worse cult than I started with
while I love you geisha779 I am still human and no one wants to feel that they have been mock
that why I told you today and forgiven you as my way putting in the pass
can you forgive me because no is without blame I did wrong too
because I was letting my pride hold me back and were letting your pride no see the value in saying one heart and listening to him
we are not without sin
we are not without pride
we are the antichrist every time we let pride get in our way
with love and a holy kiss Roy
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Roy,
I left the Way on my own, I wasn't kicked out......and one of the things I will never do again is pretend to agree to something or feign respect for a POV I don't respect. Why should I....I don't actually believe that is loving.
I read it....listened....gave it due consideration because that is respectful....and then I disagreed. You can't force me or shame me into accepting or respecting your atheist friend's POV.....but, that doesn't mean I am hateful or rude.. I can think for myself now....I am free that way.
We don't have to agree......or consider all things equally valid. When we disagree......it doesn't mean the world is coming to an end.
I wasn't mocking you.....but, I don't think I will convince you of that unless I agree with you and confess to whatever it is you are looking for. It is not going to happen. I am finished defending myself.
I am also not going to apologize for having a voice. No one has to like it.....or agree, but I have found my voice after years and years of replacing it with group think. I guard it now.
Although you have called me hateful, prideful, and assumed several erroneous things about me.....called GSC a cult. . . . that still doesn't mean I harbor any ill will toward you or am angry with you in any way. I am truly not, so there is nothing to forgive from my perspective. You are entitled to think and believe what you will.
I truly am sorry your feelings were hurt, and I hope you work whatever it is out in your life that you need to. Come here or go...it is up to you, only you know what you need to do for yourself. But, when you put something out there for discussion Roy, it may get discussed.
Good luck brother.....I really wish you nothing but the best.
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thanks geisha779
I am hateful some times isn't everybody?
with love and a holy kiss Roy
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thanks everybody
see yall later my friends
love you all but my work takes me other places
but I stop you cult from to time
but for I must move on
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lol! i knew you could'nt stay away.year, i gotta ask. do you ever proof read your posts before puting them up?if not i would beseech you to start doing so.
they would be far easier to read and more effective in your intention to get your point accross.
jus' sayin'
'til then i'm hanging around! neck deep in devil spirits and loving it!
"i'd rather laugh with the sinners then cry with the saints, the sinners are much more fun and only the good die young!!"
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thanks faith no more
are you talking me saying "I am hateful some times isn't everybody?" that is what I wanted it to read
we all are humans with the weakness of the flesh
yes I spent hours written one tread
with love and a holy kiss Roy
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Roy, I think Geshia spoke the truth and she did it in love.
Also, I tried to email you a nice farewell from Groucho and myself and your email said it doesn't exist. Please make sure you have it correct. I checked and I used the address you provided.
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thanks Dot Matrix
my E-mail is year2027@comcast.net
what is the truth?
there are flesh truths and spirit truths
the truth is we all be hateful and we can all be loving
both were wrong and both are right
have ever eastern customs by Bishop K.C. Pillai,
two children were fighting over small things lets say money the one wanted to receive knowing he could not repay
he said both were wrong
his words were you never ask because you did not a way to pay back to one child
his words were you should have given unto your brother knowing he did not have way to repay you
so is a right always right
Roy is hateful some times isn't everybody?
Geshia is hateful some times isn't everybody?
Dot Matrix is hateful some times isn't everybody?
I was trying to made peace
It does not matter who was right or who was wrong
my friend said "This should be a time of joy not grumbling ... reconciliation rather than remembering offenses and hurt feelings...a time of hope instead of doubt."
I was trying to fit it because right and wrong means nothing
but the love Roy has for Geshia does or the love Roy has for Dot does or even the love that Roy has for his atheist friend
with love and a holy kiss Roy
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Really Roy? You make peace by calling me out to publicly humiliate me and by calling me hateful and self-righteous? I would really hate to see what you do when you are angry and vindictive. How much must you think of your own words to let a simple comment fester to the boiling point that we have to do this? You have broken almost every forum rule that is posted......you called Socks a liar, prideful, and a whole host of other personal slams.....you accused WW of letting religion get in his way because he defended Socks.....and now this.
Goal accomplished....I am so totally creeped out and so uncomfortable that I highly doubt I will even read here again....let alone post. You got me back good for saying many of your posts go ignored and I wanted to check in with you....you forgot that I also said it hurt my heart for you. By the way... you said so yourself!! It is not my fault people don't listen to your YouTubes or respond to many of your posts....now I know why.
Can you stop now? Just leave me out of your posts....I don't want anything to do with you....you have effectively chased me off the internet. You actually frighten me.
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dear roy, thank you, i have many of the same feelings
love,
ex
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thanks excathedra
thanks my dear friend
with love and a holy kiss Roy
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Roy, you will always be my friend.
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thanks Ham and Waysider
yes i like that too
with love and a holy kiss Roy
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