Yes, it sounds like The Way. It sounds like fallen human nature. This is not to excuse The Way or this other organization. We aren't called to walk by fallen human nature. Institutionalization screws up walking by the spirit.
Institutionalization screws up walking by the spirit.
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Steve
Exactly! And that is one of my biggest gripes with the way international and subsequent offshoots. All they do in the end is further their own organizations and do it in God's name only.
I'm sorry for this young man and Kristin. They clearly have hearts to serve and to reach out to others. And they are stamped on at every turn. God bless 'em in their decision-making and in their next move.
Like many of us, what's been going on may well make this couple stronger and wiser and much more able to discern the BS that legalistic institutions are so full of.
It sounds like the Way, but it's a much bigger organization, so I wonder if they'll ever get to the point of realizing that they are working against the BS and, instead, blame themselves for not doing what they thought they wanted to do.
It's fairly easy, once you get a glimmer of truth, to determine that the Way was a cult just because of it's size and singleness. How many RC church locations are there? How many RC'c are there? How about Protestant faiths? Plenty of those too, all over the world.
I sure hope they get out of there and that they get out with their total sanity.
Upon meeting with my Spiritual Director in Matagalpa, she wisely encouraged Kristin and I to turn to a trusted process of *Ignatian Discernment.*
"spiritual directors" and "ignation discernment"...finally, some signs of sanity and wisdom in an RC experience.
scriptures (along with everything else) are interpreted and applied at different stages of human understanding.
humans may age, but there is no guarantee we develop. so there are RC organizations run by adults with egos of a 3 year old, adults with egos of an 8 year old, adults with egos of a 13 year old, adults with egos of 18 year old, adults with egos of 30 year olds, and so on. same goes with bankers, cops, presidents, teachers and so on.
the words and names being used are deceptive. the values, priorities and actions are typically quite clear.
just because an organization or institution has formed around something does not mean it is without value. depends on who set the ethical and practical foundations...and how grown up they are inside.
"spiritual directors" and "ignation discernment"...finally, some signs of sanity and wisdom in an RC experience.
scriptures (along with everything else) are interpreted and applied at different stages of human understanding. the words and names being used are deceptive. the values, priorities and actions are typically quite clear.
just because an organization or institution has formed around something does not mean it is without value. depends on who set the ethical and practical foundations...and how grown up they are inside.
These kids involved are so upset with all the beaurcracy and secrecy. They signed up for 2 yr mission to help the impoverished, and find that the org doesn't really care about the neeedy at all... They are contemplating leaving; some already have. Reminded me of how good hearted we all were, and were told to look the other way when we started recognizing the hard heartedness and bait/switch actions.
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Yes, it sounds like The Way. It sounds like fallen human nature. This is not to excuse The Way or this other organization. We aren't called to walk by fallen human nature. Institutionalization screws up walking by the spirit.
Love,
Steve
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Exactly! And that is one of my biggest gripes with the way international and subsequent offshoots. All they do in the end is further their own organizations and do it in God's name only.
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excathedra
i'm sorry i couldn't keep reading
nothing new under the sun
and most of makes me ill
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I'm sorry for this young man and Kristin. They clearly have hearts to serve and to reach out to others. And they are stamped on at every turn. God bless 'em in their decision-making and in their next move.
Like many of us, what's been going on may well make this couple stronger and wiser and much more able to discern the BS that legalistic institutions are so full of.
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It sounds like the Way, but it's a much bigger organization, so I wonder if they'll ever get to the point of realizing that they are working against the BS and, instead, blame themselves for not doing what they thought they wanted to do.
It's fairly easy, once you get a glimmer of truth, to determine that the Way was a cult just because of it's size and singleness. How many RC church locations are there? How many RC'c are there? How about Protestant faiths? Plenty of those too, all over the world.
I sure hope they get out of there and that they get out with their total sanity.
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Ham
It sounds like a larger organization running out of resources..
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"spiritual directors" and "ignation discernment"...finally, some signs of sanity and wisdom in an RC experience.
scriptures (along with everything else) are interpreted and applied at different stages of human understanding.
humans may age, but there is no guarantee we develop. so there are RC organizations run by adults with egos of a 3 year old, adults with egos of an 8 year old, adults with egos of a 13 year old, adults with egos of 18 year old, adults with egos of 30 year olds, and so on. same goes with bankers, cops, presidents, teachers and so on.
the words and names being used are deceptive. the values, priorities and actions are typically quite clear.
just because an organization or institution has formed around something does not mean it is without value. depends on who set the ethical and practical foundations...and how grown up they are inside.
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Jim
Everyone has feet of clay.
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outandabout
I'm Gumby, dammit!
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These kids involved are so upset with all the beaurcracy and secrecy. They signed up for 2 yr mission to help the impoverished, and find that the org doesn't really care about the neeedy at all... They are contemplating leaving; some already have. Reminded me of how good hearted we all were, and were told to look the other way when we started recognizing the hard heartedness and bait/switch actions.
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waysider
If it's any consolation, at least they're finding out now, before they invest decades of their lives into it.
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krys
Waysider - You Rock! That is an excellent statement.
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excathedra
i'm so happy to see t
did you hear pat saunders died?
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sirguessalot
i did. i love that crazy way nun. i pray she died well.
happy to see you too.
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JavaJane
That is the perfect way to describe her! Thanks for that!
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Thomas Loy Bumgarner
did the youth consider contacting the bishop for the area? did other people in the parish complain about the priest's behavior?
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