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17 million Iranians have a facebook account.

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Published 10:02 07.01.12

Latest update 10:02 07.01.12

Iranian cleric calls Facebook 'un-Islamic', membership a 'sin'

17 million Iranians have a Facebook account, despite heavy restrictions and filtering imposed by the government.

By DPA

Tags: Iran Islam

Get Haaretz on iPhone Get Haaretz on Android An Iranian ayatollah has said that the social networking service Facebook was un-Islamic and being a member of it a sin, the ISNA news agency reported Saturday.

In Iran, it is common for senior clerics to be asked about their stance on certain social issues and whether these issues are compatible with Islamic norms.

Their answers are regarded as a form of decree.

ISNA on Saturday broadcast coverage of the response of Ayatollah Lotfollah Safi-Golpaygani, a senior cleric, to the question about Facebook and Iranian membership in the social networking service.

"Basically, going to any website which propagates immoralities and could weaken the religious belief is un-Islamic and not allowed, and membership in it is therefore haram (a sin)," the ayatollah replied.

"Only the use of websites propagating religious criteria and not leading to any kind of ethical immoralities is of no problem," he added.

According to official figures released last October, 17 million Iranians have a Facebook account, despite heavy restrictions and filtering imposed by the government.

Due to the popularity of Facebook with younger generations, observers believe that the number of real Iranian Facebook users could be much higher than 17 million.

Iran has a population of 70 million, of which than 60 per cent is under the age of 30.

Over 5 million websites are reportedly blocked in Iran, but Iranians use proxy software and virtual private networks (VPN) to access them.

Iranian officials have, for over three decades, been waging what they call a "battle against the invasion of Western culture."

This has led to blockades of "immoral" internet sites and banned Western music and movies. However, pirated versions of those are easily available on the black market.

The country recently established a cyberpolice unit to better police the internet and even plans to introduce its own national internet, though this has been postponed several times.

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I used to think having anything to do with the internet was a sin. Now it appears to me that "people overcomers" (those who arrest free will) are the greater sinners. and the sin before God by which I will be judged and rewarded according to how we have lived our lives before Him. (in the line of "whatsover a man sows that shall he also reap")

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Yeah, you can see all the kids canceling their FB accounts, can't you?

Especially the kids who aren't Iranian - the Muslim kids living pleasantly with their neighbors in countries all over the world.

These Iranian "Powers That Be" are afraid that, as happened with many of the "Arab Spring" countries, an uprising against them will be fomented over the net and on FB.

You might wonder how many of the leaders themselves have FB accounts (perhaps under a false name) so that they can secretly spy on other people.

Neither FB nor the Internet in general are either good - or bad. As with any other technology - it's how they are used.

But hey - if you want to control people, control their access to information. Ban any sources other than your own.

Can't see many European or US folk canceling their FB accounts.

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Neither FB nor the Internet in general are either good - or bad. As with any other technology - it's how they are used.

But hey - if you want to control people, control their access to information. Ban any sources other than your own.

Can't see many European or US folk canceling their FB accounts.

The internet is an information highway.....and a growing social network of families, friends, etc.

It provides an exchange of cyber-assembling of conversation and mobilizing movements.

Obviously, this oppressive government wants to control the masses.

The western culture is so evil compared to their culture...haha

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O good, I get banned from yet another religion that I want nothing to do with anyway.

Whether Islamic or Christian it amazes me that it is the so called "Faith" people that are the ones that are afraid of everything.

Not sure about the "afraid of everything"......

But I have heard people mention that Shariah Law stuff......1)women have to wear burkas, 2)male dominant culture,

3)women can't drive vehicles, 4)honor killings, etc.......those sort of things.

Whether Shariah Law ever would come to America....dunno

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Not sure about the "afraid of everything"......

But I have heard people mention that Shariah Law stuff......1)women have to wear burkas, 2)male dominant culture,

3)women can't drive vehicles, 4)honor killings, etc.......those sort of things.

Whether Shariah Law ever would come to America....dunno

On the other hand.....maybe this stuff IS encroaching

Honor Killings in Canada -- Click Here

Honor Killings: Family in Canada Convicted of 'Cold-blooded, Shameful Murders'

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January 30, 2012 9:46 AM EST

On Sunday, three Afghans were found guilty of the "honor killing" murders of four women in Canada. Husband and wife Mohammad Shafia and Tooba Yahya, and their son Hamed Shafia, were each convicted of four counts of first-degree murder for the deaths of the family's three teenaged daughters and another woman, a verdict that carries an automatic life sentence.

"This jury found that four strong, vivacious and freedom-loving women were murdered by their own family in the most troubling of circumstances," prosecutor Gerard Laarhuis told reporters outside the courthouse.

“Shafia, Tooba and Hamed had decided that there was a diseased limb on their family tree,” prosecutor Laurie Lacelle said. “Their decision was to trim the diseased limb and prune the tree back to the good wood.”

The bodies of the three daughters -- Zainab, 19, Sahar 17, and Geeti, 13 -- and Mohammad's first wife Rona Amir Mohammad, 52, who lived with the Shafia family were found inside a car submerged in a canal in June 2009. It was later determined that the four women were killed earlier, and then placed in the car, which was then pushed into the water, by the family. It is still unknown where exactly the murders happened.

The Shafia trial captivated and shocked Canada, and forced the whole nation to engage in a conversation about culture and violence. The three Sharia girls were allegedly dominated and abused by their strict father and brother. Zainab was taken out of school when she began dating a Pakistani-Canadian and eventually escaped to a shelter.

It is believed that the other two girls were murdered for having Christian boyfriends and wearing short skirts.

"This verdict sends a very clear message about our Canadian values and the core principles in a free and democratic society that all Canadians enjoy and even visitors to Canada enjoy," said Laarhuis.

But a debate in Canada about whether the murders were culturally and religiously motivated or common domestic abuse has sprung up. For some, the issue is about violence against women, not about cultural differences.

“Honour [sic] motivated violence is NOT culture, it is barbaric violence against women. Canada must never tolerate such misogyny as culture,” Tweeted Canadian MP Rona Ambrose.

But Tarek Fatah, founder of the Muslim Canadian Congress, told The Star that for some Muslims who take beliefs to the very extreme, misogyny and culture go hand in hand.

Recorded phone calls presented in court point toward this conclusion:

"There can be no betrayal, no treachery, no violation more than this," Shafia said of his daughter's on a recorded phone conversation. "Even if they hoist me up onto the gallows ... nothing is more dear to me than my honor."

Regardless of the debate, the jury found that however the murders were categorized, they were still murders.

"It is difficult to conceive of a more despicable, more heinous crime," judge Robert Maranger said after the ruling on Sunday.

"The apparent reason behind these cold-blooded, shameful murders was that the four completely innocent victims offended your completely twisted concept of honor … that has absolutely no place in any civilized society."

Hamed's lawyer, Patrick McCann, said that he would appeal the verdict. The first-degree murder sentence comes with a mandatory 25 years without parole.

For an analysis of the practice of honor killing, read here.

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