In the case of some of these people and TWI, you could almost say they deserve each other.
There's another couple I know, active Way Corps - the woman was deeply involved in all the sex scandal stuff - she is remarried. They always get full-time field assignments because it's hush money paying her to keep her trap shut.
There's another couple I know, active Way Corps - the woman was deeply involved in all the sex scandal stuff - she is remarried. They always get full-time field assignments because it's hush money paying her to keep her trap shut.
Here's the part I don't get... they were dropped from active corps, now corps alumni. Cut off from the twi payroll.
Oh well. I am sure it was all rationalized away, just like rationalizing that it was OK to have sex with your friend's husband who is a Christian minister... Perfectly normal and fine. Yup.
I feel badly for her in actuality. It's gotta be hard to keep up with living like that all these years. She is a nice woman too.
I had another woman who was at HQ who came to our area and implyed she was upset that she had never been one of the women Craig wanted to sleep with. She thought maybe there was something wrong with her. People are so strange.
She and probably her husband know that TWI's top leadership LiED in that meeting... She knows it was not a ONE TIME affair. They are no longer active WC...
Why stay? How do you justify that?
As a matter of fact, I just happen to have a "one size fits all" easy answer right here! Humor me for a bit, please.
There's a TV show my wife and I watch called 'Judging Amy'. It's your basic liberal socialist propaganda show. Amy and Jillian make for good eye candy, Donna is theatre of the absurd, the men in the show are all trying to keep jobs, stay in relationships, beat addictions, and stay in schools, all the while dodging the abuse the women constantly threw at them (and boy, did they). But the real mouthpiece of the show and its propaganda is Tyne Daly's character, uber militant socialist worker Maxine Gray, who routinely hijacks families for fun and profit. When she talks in that certain tone of voice, with that certain look on her face....it's GOSPEL, it's "right believing", it's "sound doctrine". THAT'S what you're supposed to get from watching the show.
That format worked pretty well; the show lasted several years. Now to the point at hand, during one episode, Maxine Gray, the matriarch, all but forcefully coerced Amy, her daughter,into lying to her own 8 year old daughter about her (Amy's) past drug use. Maxine said "You just have to lie about things like that! There's no other way! Too many problems if you don't!" Sound doctrine, Amy. C'mon, get with the program!
OK, the parallel is....TWIs top leadership "had to lie about things like that". Their consciences allowed them to sleep around like that. No problem there. Just like, in the TV show, Amy's conscience allowed her to be a happy drug user in HS and college, then go to law school and become part of the same system she rebelled against, and condemn the possibility of her daughter ever using drugs. She "had to lie", right? Same basic mindset.
I'm aware that TV shows and movies often do not portray real people and real situations, but they do provide a common point of reference. Just like some of Jesus' parables. BTW, I personally, have been honest to my kids about my own past drug use. So far, they don't even drink. Where did I go wrong? :unsure:
Here's the part I don't get... they were dropped from active corps, now corps alumni. Cut off from the twi payroll.
Oh well. I am sure it was all rationalized away, just like rationalizing that it was OK to have sex with your friend's husband who is a Christian minister... Perfectly normal and fine. Yup.
I feel badly for her in actuality. It's gotta be hard to keep up with living like that all these years. She is a nice woman too.
I had another woman who was at HQ who came to our area and implyed she was upset that she had never been one of the women Craig wanted to sleep with. She thought maybe there was something wrong with her. People are so strange.
Yeah, strange. What I wonder is the woman will "snap" someday..
deep down this has to be having some kind of effect on her.
Yeah, strange. What I wonder is the woman will "snap" someday..
deep down this has to be having some kind of effect on her.
Just an opinion:
I think people who are able to survive long enough with these kinds of secrets eventually erect a sort of psychological sarcophagus where this information is sealed deep inside a virtually impenetrable "vault".
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Why does anyone stay in an abusive relationship?
I don't think there is any "one size fits all", easy answer.
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"There's none so blind as them as [those who] will not see" - as my great grandfather would say.
It's an old problem. Check out Jeremiah 5:21
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A hypocrite in all his might: So wrong in that he thinks he's right.
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In the case of some of these people and TWI, you could almost say they deserve each other.
There's another couple I know, active Way Corps - the woman was deeply involved in all the sex scandal stuff - she is remarried. They always get full-time field assignments because it's hush money paying her to keep her trap shut.
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That must be why I ended up in Mississippi living in a trailor.
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Hush money?
Nothing silent about MY money.
I hear it shouting "Goodbye!" on a regular basis.
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Here's the part I don't get... they were dropped from active corps, now corps alumni. Cut off from the twi payroll.
Oh well. I am sure it was all rationalized away, just like rationalizing that it was OK to have sex with your friend's husband who is a Christian minister... Perfectly normal and fine. Yup.
I feel badly for her in actuality. It's gotta be hard to keep up with living like that all these years. She is a nice woman too.
I had another woman who was at HQ who came to our area and implyed she was upset that she had never been one of the women Craig wanted to sleep with. She thought maybe there was something wrong with her. People are so strange.
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So my question is...
She and probably her husband know that TWI's top leadership LiED in that meeting... She knows it was not a ONE TIME affair. They are no longer active WC...
Why stay? How do you justify that?
As a matter of fact, I just happen to have a "one size fits all" easy answer right here! Humor me for a bit, please.
There's a TV show my wife and I watch called 'Judging Amy'. It's your basic liberal socialist propaganda show. Amy and Jillian make for good eye candy, Donna is theatre of the absurd, the men in the show are all trying to keep jobs, stay in relationships, beat addictions, and stay in schools, all the while dodging the abuse the women constantly threw at them (and boy, did they). But the real mouthpiece of the show and its propaganda is Tyne Daly's character, uber militant socialist worker Maxine Gray, who routinely hijacks families for fun and profit. When she talks in that certain tone of voice, with that certain look on her face....it's GOSPEL, it's "right believing", it's "sound doctrine". THAT'S what you're supposed to get from watching the show.
That format worked pretty well; the show lasted several years. Now to the point at hand, during one episode, Maxine Gray, the matriarch, all but forcefully coerced Amy, her daughter,into lying to her own 8 year old daughter about her (Amy's) past drug use. Maxine said "You just have to lie about things like that! There's no other way! Too many problems if you don't!" Sound doctrine, Amy. C'mon, get with the program!
OK, the parallel is....TWIs top leadership "had to lie about things like that". Their consciences allowed them to sleep around like that. No problem there. Just like, in the TV show, Amy's conscience allowed her to be a happy drug user in HS and college, then go to law school and become part of the same system she rebelled against, and condemn the possibility of her daughter ever using drugs. She "had to lie", right? Same basic mindset.
I'm aware that TV shows and movies often do not portray real people and real situations, but they do provide a common point of reference. Just like some of Jesus' parables. BTW, I personally, have been honest to my kids about my own past drug use. So far, they don't even drink. Where did I go wrong? :unsure:
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Yeah, strange. What I wonder is the woman will "snap" someday..
deep down this has to be having some kind of effect on her.
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Just an opinion:
I think people who are able to survive long enough with these kinds of secrets eventually erect a sort of psychological sarcophagus where this information is sealed deep inside a virtually impenetrable "vault".
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Reap the harvest once again.
Pile your treasures high.
Lock them in a barren room
That reaches toward the sky.
Lock them in where they'll be safe
From avaricious hands.
Taking care to hide the key
In distant foreign lands.
Journey there in secrecy
Let no one see the chart.
Keep it in that dismal tomb
You boldly call your heart.
In the tomb the chart is safe
To while away the day.
Danger there does not exist
For none can pass that way.
When you return some harvest time
To add more to the store,
Cries shall fill your empty room
Cries.... and nothing more.
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