Was da victoid "born again"?

[Ham]

It's really a hard question to ask, I think..

what does one do, coming face to face with a Charlatan on the other side of existence..

I've had a lot of dreams..

no, vic was not in any one of them..

no question and answer session..

I've had a couple of dreams like that, with those still living..

no reply yet. Maybe they are still thinking or something..

[waysider]

One thing I'm pretty sure of. If you still believe that saying "Lo Shanta" guarantees you a first class ticket to Shambala, you may want to revise your flight plans.

Edited March 30, 2011 by waysider

[Bolshevik]

. . . What happens to light appears and darkness flees. . .

darkness flees . . . that would mean darkness has to go somewhere? It moves? *ponders*

maybe he meant dark fleas . . . just a translational error

"light dipels darkness" . . . I think it was . . . still confusing

(sorry there was another topic . . .)

[Thomas Loy Bumgarner]

I don't think I believe that stuff VP taught about judgement. I think he was hoping there would be no judgement for him. The Bible clearly says, even in the epistles, that we are all going to have to give an account to God. I don't know what that fully means, but I don't think people that hurt people are going to get off scott free.

By the way, does anyone know the difference between "Scot free", and just "free"? Do you think there's "Irish free", "English free", "French free, etc.? Maybe there's a "Jim free, and "Jack free"? These are the types of things that make me lie awake all night.

I am free to run(repeat), I am free to dance(repeat)- Jon Egan and Jared Anderson

[Ham]

the way I understand this, so far 9 out of 11 claim that examining the life of vic, he was either not "born again" or they could not tell..

[OldSkool]

Lo shanta....

[waysider]

---ma laka see tay, y'all

[OldSkool]

---ma laka see tay, y'all

See, he was speaking Greek!

Malakas (Greek: μαλάκας) is a Greek slang word, whose literal translation is wanker but the usage of the term varies

Perhaps, this was VPW Greek name?

[Ham]

there is great wanker, and lesser wanker. Da victoid was the latter of the two..

[waysider]

there is great wanker, and lesser wanker. Da victoid was the latter of the two..

Nah. The Greater Wanker and The Lesser Wanker are constellations.

Did you mean to post this on the Witness of the Stars thread?

[T-Bone]

there is great wanker, and lesser wanker. Da victoid was the latter of the two..

Nah. The Greater Wanker and The Lesser Wanker are constellations.

Did you mean to post this on the Witness of the Stars thread?

the Greater Wanker and Lesser Wanker are near the constellation Canker - i believe that's what Galileo sore.

[waysider]

Well, I'm just glad constellations don't always look like their namesakes.

[Thomas Loy Bumgarner]

I question whether Wierwille was "born again", despite songs from Good Seed or the more recent Third Day hit.

I am free to run(repeat), I am free to dance(repeat)- Jon Egan and Jared Anderson

not to be confused with I am Three, lol. Actually like the Egan song, done with Promise Keepers.

[Ham]

Isn't it at least intriguing.. here we have a "christian(?)" "minister". And seemingly, about the only time he can exemplify the "holiness" of his calling is when he is on stage somewhere, or in front of a camera.

How can the facade be so dazzling.. that for decades later, certain individuals still practically worship him?

Still cling to the belief that he was *really* some kind of man of god?

What about the plagiarism? "Doesn't make any difference.."

What about the alcoholism? "Didn't make him a "bad man".."

what about his *habit* of cornering women, some unwilling..?

what about the fits of anger, lashing out indiscriminately..

sending God's people into harms way, when there were alternatives..

"well, its still the word.."

born again? I would say.. "born again" only in front of a camera, or crowd. Or when it suited him..

and the real tragedy here..

creating his own grandson in vic's image..