I think it's a bit like the old question : "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?" If there is a finite answer and you discover it, will it really make any difference?
It doesn't really matter to me which tribe - or how many angels, Waysider.
I'm just a bit surprised that having announced that we (yes, we) are the real Israel, as well as being the Body of Christ, the true church / called out, the faithful remnant -- our beloved leaders didn't seek to further categorize us as some other type of believer / Israel. And having condemned millions of faithful, compassionate, loving and giving Christians practicing mainstream Christianity, surprising our beloved leaders didn't seek to categorize them as unstable, or cruel, or lazy (Issachar), or judgmental backbiters (Dan) - but that might mean having to give a word of praise, too. Obviously, and I mean this completely (in)sincerely, folks, TWI would be Joseph.
Genesis 49:
3 Reuben, thou art my firstborn, my might, and the beginning of my strength, the excellency of dignity, and the excellency of power: 4 Unstable as water, thou shalt not excel ; because thou wentest up to thy father's bed; then defiledst thou it: he went up to my couch.
5 Simeon and Levi are brethren; instruments of cruelty are in their habitations. 6 O my soul, come not thou into their secret; unto their assembly, mine honour, be not thou united : for in their anger they slew a man, and in their selfwill they digged down a wall. 7 Cursed be their anger, for it was fierce; and their wrath, for it was cruel : I will divide them in Jacob, and scatter them in Israel.
8 Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise : thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies ; thy father's children shall bow down before thee. 9 Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up : he stooped down , he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up ? 10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come ; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be. 11 Binding his foal unto the vine, and his foot's colt unto the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes: 12 His eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk.
13 Zebulun shall dwell at the haven of the sea; and he shall be for an haven of ships; and his border shall be unto Zidon.
14 Issachar is a strong foot couching down between two burdens: 15 And he saw that rest was good, and the land that it was pleasant ; and bowed his shoulder to bear , and became a servant unto tribute.
16 Dan shall judge his people, as one of the tribes of Israel. 17 Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward. 18 I have waited for thy salvation, O LORD.
19 Gad, a troop shall overcome him: but he shall overcome at the last.
20 Out of Asher his bread shall be fat, and he shall yield royal dainties.
21 Naphtali is a hind let loose : he giveth goodly words.
22 Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall: 23 The archers have sorely grieved him , and shot at him, and hated him : 24 But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd , the stone of Israel:) 25 Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb: 26 The blessings of thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting hills: they shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren.
27 Benjamin shall ravin as a wolf: in the morning he shall devour the prey, and at night he shall divide the spoil.
28 All these are the twelve tribes of Israel: and this is it that their father spake unto them, and blessed them; every one according to his blessing he blessed them.
Glad I'm out...and can choose to be who I want to be, in Christ.
It doesn't really matter to me which tribe - or how many angels, Waysider.
I'm just a bit surprised that having announced that we (yes, we) are the real Israel, as well as being the Body of Christ, the true church / called out, the faithful remnant -- our beloved leaders didn't seek to further categorize us as some other type of believer / Israel. And having condemned millions of faithful, compassionate, loving and giving Christians practicing mainstream Christianity, surprising our beloved leaders didn't seek to categorize them as unstable, or cruel, or lazy (Issachar), or judgmental backbiters (Dan) - but that might mean having to give a word of praise, too. Obviously, and I mean this completely (in)sincerely, folks, TWI would be Joseph.
Glad I'm out...and can choose to be who I want to be, in Christ.
The Apostle Paul made it clear that we have been grafted into the root stock of Israel. Personally, I'm glad....for all of Israel shall be saved. Amen.
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I think it's a bit like the old question : "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?" If there is a finite answer and you discover it, will it really make any difference?
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the twelve tribes is more symbolic and not binding imho.
neither vp nor lcm ever came close to the riches of Israel
certainly never near what that brought us to
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It doesn't really matter to me which tribe - or how many angels, Waysider.
I'm just a bit surprised that having announced that we (yes, we) are the real Israel, as well as being the Body of Christ, the true church / called out, the faithful remnant -- our beloved leaders didn't seek to further categorize us as some other type of believer / Israel. And having condemned millions of faithful, compassionate, loving and giving Christians practicing mainstream Christianity, surprising our beloved leaders didn't seek to categorize them as unstable, or cruel, or lazy (Issachar), or judgmental backbiters (Dan) - but that might mean having to give a word of praise, too. Obviously, and I mean this completely (in)sincerely, folks, TWI would be Joseph.
Genesis 49:
3 Reuben, thou art my firstborn, my might, and the beginning of my strength, the excellency of dignity, and the excellency of power: 4 Unstable as water, thou shalt not excel ; because thou wentest up to thy father's bed; then defiledst thou it: he went up to my couch.
5 Simeon and Levi are brethren; instruments of cruelty are in their habitations. 6 O my soul, come not thou into their secret; unto their assembly, mine honour, be not thou united : for in their anger they slew a man, and in their selfwill they digged down a wall. 7 Cursed be their anger, for it was fierce; and their wrath, for it was cruel : I will divide them in Jacob, and scatter them in Israel.
8 Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise : thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies ; thy father's children shall bow down before thee. 9 Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up : he stooped down , he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up ? 10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come ; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be. 11 Binding his foal unto the vine, and his foot's colt unto the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes: 12 His eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk.
13 Zebulun shall dwell at the haven of the sea; and he shall be for an haven of ships; and his border shall be unto Zidon.
14 Issachar is a strong foot couching down between two burdens: 15 And he saw that rest was good, and the land that it was pleasant ; and bowed his shoulder to bear , and became a servant unto tribute.
16 Dan shall judge his people, as one of the tribes of Israel. 17 Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward. 18 I have waited for thy salvation, O LORD.
19 Gad, a troop shall overcome him: but he shall overcome at the last.
20 Out of Asher his bread shall be fat, and he shall yield royal dainties.
21 Naphtali is a hind let loose : he giveth goodly words.
22 Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall: 23 The archers have sorely grieved him , and shot at him, and hated him : 24 But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd , the stone of Israel:) 25 Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb: 26 The blessings of thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting hills: they shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren.
27 Benjamin shall ravin as a wolf: in the morning he shall devour the prey, and at night he shall divide the spoil.
28 All these are the twelve tribes of Israel: and this is it that their father spake unto them, and blessed them; every one according to his blessing he blessed them.
Glad I'm out...and can choose to be who I want to be, in Christ.
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The Apostle Paul made it clear that we have been grafted into the root stock of Israel. Personally, I'm glad....for all of Israel shall be saved. Amen.
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