all the hype about it not being truly private and about it being hacked all the time and that kind of thing. also my family uses facebook and they'd figure me out sure enough and then i'd be harassed to no end on facebook as well as in real life.
Very valid points brainfixed; I tried facebook and had to deactivate my account. Family members made sure to "innocently" steer the conversation to expose what a heathen I am according to the doctrine we were raised in.
Some still have a need to remain private and I felt that need was protected here; at least in public.
The facebook place is closed. That means that only us are there. It's not open to the public. One must be invited by somebody there to gain entrance....so it's doubtful any of your family would see you there. They couldn't get into the group.
There are a couple of people in the facebook group that are using their Greasespot names for their facebook accounts. That is fine. I only ask that you PM me here, so that I know it is really you.
Someone posted that facebook used their isp to suggest "friends", friends from their older account when they opened a 2nd account. Facebook is not all that secure and not for everyone....
I totally agree Ducttape. And yes, Facebook does pull information to suggest friends. I'm not sure it accesses your email accounts to do this unless you give them permission to. It will pull information from your friends list on facebook to suggest people you might know.
And you have to know how to set your privacy settings and what the pitfalls of using applications are. But, if you think your email providers and your internet service provider is not also tracking where you go on the internet, you are fooling yourself. In this day and age, internet privacy is mostly a myth.
Everything you do on the internet has a risk factor attached to it. Each individual has to decide the risk v the value and make their own judgment call. Many people enjoy facebook and have few problems, others have had a lot of problems.
The facebook group is set up for those who want to use it. It is not going to be for everyone and is not intended to be a replacement for greasespot. It is simply another method to allow those who want to, to stay in touch.
I remember that. But someone else, who is a squirrel, so we can't mention his name, one night decided to go in and do sounds non-stop for hours. I got home and the cats were going nuts hearing all these animal sounds. I had no idea where the sounds were coming from until I went to my computer and saw the other white meat doing one sound after another. It was late and I think I just told him to shut up, there may have been some other words in there to spice up the conversation.
But, if you think your email providers and your internet service provider is not also tracking where you go on the internet, you are fooling yourself. In this day and age, internet privacy is mostly a myth.
It's a corn-spiracy, I tell ya. A corn-spiracy! ... The real solution is for us all to take our Mak-Packs and head for the hills, cutting ourselves off from that devil-invested civilization.
But seeriously, as regards email providers and internet providers that are in cahoots with such privacy invading varmints, the same common sense approach applies, set whatever settings you can to determine where your info goes, get whatever anti-spyware/anti-malware/anti-underwear utilities you can and set them up to how you want, and just watch whatever/wherever you go, and I think your privacy/safety will do a lot better than you might think.
Wow! Kinda like in real life.
Meanwhile, back I go to perusing my black-hat hacker site.
Someone posted that facebook used their isp to suggest "friends", friends from their older account when they opened a 2nd account. Facebook is not all that secure and not for everyone....
That was me. I opened one Facebook account with EVERYTHING disabled, and not using my real name.
I later opened one for this (the other week). As soon as I signed in, it suggested 2
"friends"- the one "friend" for the other account, and someone recommended for that
because they knew the "friend."
The only connection between the 2 accounts, separated by months, was the same IP address was used
for both accounts. So, yes, Facebook monitors your IP address. Even when I gave them no personal
information (and neither account has any real correct info), they will still log the only things
they can log- IP address and email address.
If brainfixed wants to use an alias for his account and sign up for the Facebook group (which IS
a "private" group), he can do that and set everything on the account so only he sees it.
Then let someone know what name he's using so they can approve him for the group.
There are anonymous proxies around that hide your IP address if you are worried about facebook and other services invading your privacy. Some are free others you pay a small fee for.
I've been on FB for about a year, and I've never had friends suggested other than friends of FB friends. I must have accidentally done something right when I did my FB settings.
Thanks to the many posters here who have helped me through the mental hardship in understanding what it takes to leave a group that has a great hold on your mind and life. I will always be thankful. Hats off to Paw, and many others.
Thnx Pawtucket for all the hard work you did and the money you spent. It has benefitted many people!
Can I make a suggestion? Why don't we ( The ex Wayfers and sympathizers) start a NEW Forum thats on one of the free forums, and keep in touch that way. Ive been running a gaming Forum http://s7.invisionfree.com/Royal_Noobs_Clan/ on Invision for about 5 years now and although its not as good as this forum, it kinda serves the purpose. If anyone is up for this, Im willing to help. I know theres some admins who could set it up and maintain it, and it wouldnt be as BIG or versatile as this forum, but it might be nice to keep this going on a free forum
Hah! I just clicked on the FB link above and have been offered as a Friend someone ... let's say, that I don't care to spend time with. Just because I added someone I do care to spend time with, as a Friend.
I kinda like being here, anonymously.
And conversing with others, anonymously.
We all change...a bit. We were all changed...badly, sometimes, by TWI. Some got better afterwards, and some got worse.
Maybe I converse here with some from TWI that I would not care to spend time with.
But while there is a "history" with not-so-nice-Fred-from-TWI, there isn't a history with cuppa-java-Fred-from-GSC.
Wow... I have stopped by the Cafe less and less over the past two years... just happened to drop by tonight and saw this...
Like so many others I have mixed feelings... this place was critical to my recovery from twi since I only found WayDale when the lawsuit broke, and thank God Pawtucket took up the reins when the Allens departed!!!
Once I was on solid ground, I stayed for a long, long time to help others who found this place and I hope I was able to help a few as they passed through, as others helped me when I was just figuring things out.
Good Luck to You Dear Pawtucket, in all of your endeavors.
You did well here, and helped many.
No need to feel obliged anymore to anyone or tied to something that needs to evolve into what people will find next on their paths.
Your generosity of spirit and will is something many will always aspire to ... you are a fine example of a man helping his fellow man.
Be well and move forward knowing you have done as well as anyone ever could have with an ex cult site... maybe even that you did it is remarkable enough!
People found their way through either their experiences or their emotions after such a time or experience as The Way International!
You will always be a sort of 'hero' to me for putting up the mirror and the light, for all to see where they came from, and some, a glimpse of where they could go from really being down and out.
Precious and Few are people like you .... I am sending the most positive thoughts to you and yours during this transitional time.
Wish for all the Beat and ...bam! See it staring right back at you.
Peace and Love Always,
Ginger Tea
Have a cup of ginger tea with agave sweetener (raw and organic, of course,) and some meyer lemon and passion flower... to stay relaxed, you know?
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ClayJay
Hey, it might be good for everybody to move on. It's pretty addicting, coming here, so, maybe something new would be good for everybody! :)
Ductape
Very valid points brainfixed; I tried facebook and had to deactivate my account. Family members made sure to "innocently" steer the conversation to expose what a heathen I am according to the doctrine we were raised in.
Some still have a need to remain private and I felt that need was protected here; at least in public.
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The facebook place is closed. That means that only us are there. It's not open to the public. One must be invited by somebody there to gain entrance....so it's doubtful any of your family would see you there. They couldn't get into the group.
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There are a couple of people in the facebook group that are using their Greasespot names for their facebook accounts. That is fine. I only ask that you PM me here, so that I know it is really you.
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Someone posted that facebook used their isp to suggest "friends", friends from their older account when they opened a 2nd account. Facebook is not all that secure and not for everyone....
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I totally agree Ducttape. And yes, Facebook does pull information to suggest friends. I'm not sure it accesses your email accounts to do this unless you give them permission to. It will pull information from your friends list on facebook to suggest people you might know.
And you have to know how to set your privacy settings and what the pitfalls of using applications are. But, if you think your email providers and your internet service provider is not also tracking where you go on the internet, you are fooling yourself. In this day and age, internet privacy is mostly a myth.
Everything you do on the internet has a risk factor attached to it. Each individual has to decide the risk v the value and make their own judgment call. Many people enjoy facebook and have few problems, others have had a lot of problems.
The facebook group is set up for those who want to use it. It is not going to be for everyone and is not intended to be a replacement for greasespot. It is simply another method to allow those who want to, to stay in touch.
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waysider
Well, what's wrong with being of a sound mind? :P
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GarthP2000
It's a corn-spiracy, I tell ya. A corn-spiracy!
... The real solution is for us all to take our Mak-Packs and head for the hills, cutting ourselves off from that devil-invested civilization. 
But seeriously, as regards email providers and internet providers that are in cahoots with such privacy invading varmints, the same common sense approach applies, set whatever settings you can to determine where your info goes, get whatever anti-spyware/anti-malware/anti-underwear utilities you can and set them up to how you want, and just watch whatever/wherever you go, and I think your privacy/safety will do a lot better than you might think.
Wow! Kinda like in real life.
Meanwhile, back I go to perusing my black-hat hacker site.
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Ductape
None, and I have had several over the years; of my present or former email providers ever sent a message to anyone asking if they knew me............
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That was me. I opened one Facebook account with EVERYTHING disabled, and not using my real name.
I later opened one for this (the other week). As soon as I signed in, it suggested 2
"friends"- the one "friend" for the other account, and someone recommended for that
because they knew the "friend."
The only connection between the 2 accounts, separated by months, was the same IP address was used
for both accounts. So, yes, Facebook monitors your IP address. Even when I gave them no personal
information (and neither account has any real correct info), they will still log the only things
they can log- IP address and email address.
If brainfixed wants to use an alias for his account and sign up for the Facebook group (which IS
a "private" group), he can do that and set everything on the account so only he sees it.
Then let someone know what name he's using so they can approve him for the group.
http://xkcd.com/743/
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Twinky
D'ya mean I can open a new FB account for "Twinky" separate from my account in my real name?
But that if I do so, FB will figure out who is in my real-name address book or FB account, and suggest those people as friends for Twinky?
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WordWolf
Yes.
So long as you're logging in from the same IP address, it will suggest those people as possible "friends" for Twinky.
Of course, you don't have to make them "friends" of the new account.
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bulwinkl
There are anonymous proxies around that hide your IP address if you are worried about facebook and other services invading your privacy. Some are free others you pay a small fee for.
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Linda Z
I've been on FB for about a year, and I've never had friends suggested other than friends of FB friends. I must have accidentally done something right when I did my FB settings.
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polar bear
Thanks to the many posters here who have helped me through the mental hardship in understanding what it takes to leave a group that has a great hold on your mind and life. I will always be thankful. Hats off to Paw, and many others.
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Kit Sober
In the war upon the saints, Greasespot Cafe has been a refuge.
When waydale closed I painstakingly copied over In Memorium notes (friends and family) but I don't have the heart to do it again.
I'm really sorry it's closing. WIsh Pawtucket could find a way to transfer ownership or incorporate or something.
It's a treasure of a place for so many without a voice to say so, and I am will be way sorry to see it close.
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Hi,
Thnx Pawtucket for all the hard work you did and the money you spent. It has benefitted many people!
Can I make a suggestion? Why don't we ( The ex Wayfers and sympathizers) start a NEW Forum thats on one of the free forums, and keep in touch that way. Ive been running a gaming Forum http://s7.invisionfree.com/Royal_Noobs_Clan/ on Invision for about 5 years now and although its not as good as this forum, it kinda serves the purpose. If anyone is up for this, Im willing to help. I know theres some admins who could set it up and maintain it, and it wouldnt be as BIG or versatile as this forum, but it might be nice to keep this going on a free forum
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ClayJay
Hey, it might be good for everybody to move on. It's pretty addicting, coming here, so, maybe something new would be good for everybody! :)
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God first
thanks Steveo
Our friend in X-JW have made one for us
http://modernchat.madmooseforum.com/index.php
with Way International Room for telling our story
and we are welcome at the
http://exjehovahswitnessforum.yuku.com/forums/6
and GSP on face book
and there more
with love and a holy kiss Roy
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Twinky
Hah! I just clicked on the FB link above and have been offered as a Friend someone ... let's say, that I don't care to spend time with. Just because I added someone I do care to spend time with, as a Friend.
I kinda like being here, anonymously.
And conversing with others, anonymously.
We all change...a bit. We were all changed...badly, sometimes, by TWI. Some got better afterwards, and some got worse.
Maybe I converse here with some from TWI that I would not care to spend time with.
But while there is a "history" with not-so-nice-Fred-from-TWI, there isn't a history with cuppa-java-Fred-from-GSC.
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Lizzy
You made a difference in more lives than you will ever know. Thank you Paw.
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excathedra
i just found out from an ex friend that greasespot is closing
the email list thingy and waydale and then greasespot helped me more than i can ever express
thank you pawtucket for everything
and thank you everyone who helped me
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TheHighWay
Wow... I have stopped by the Cafe less and less over the past two years... just happened to drop by tonight and saw this...
Like so many others I have mixed feelings... this place was critical to my recovery from twi since I only found WayDale when the lawsuit broke, and thank God Pawtucket took up the reins when the Allens departed!!!
Once I was on solid ground, I stayed for a long, long time to help others who found this place and I hope I was able to help a few as they passed through, as others helped me when I was just figuring things out.
So thankful for all of you!!
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Good Luck to You Dear Pawtucket, in all of your endeavors.
You did well here, and helped many.
No need to feel obliged anymore to anyone or tied to something that needs to evolve into what people will find next on their paths.
Your generosity of spirit and will is something many will always aspire to ... you are a fine example of a man helping his fellow man.
Be well and move forward knowing you have done as well as anyone ever could have with an ex cult site... maybe even that you did it is remarkable enough!
People found their way through either their experiences or their emotions after such a time or experience as The Way International!
You will always be a sort of 'hero' to me for putting up the mirror and the light, for all to see where they came from, and some, a glimpse of where they could go from really being down and out.
Precious and Few are people like you .... I am sending the most positive thoughts to you and yours during this transitional time.
Wish for all the Beat and ...bam! See it staring right back at you.
Peace and Love Always,
Ginger Tea
Have a cup of ginger tea with agave sweetener (raw and organic, of course,) and some meyer lemon and passion flower... to stay relaxed, you know?
xoxo
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