The Serpent?

[teachmevp]

Hi Rachel, what are your thoughts on this saying, the life force is holy, and the life force is in the blood;

that which is holy is separate, what is holy is what is in Yahweh;s realm; the blood is the life, and that

belongs to Yahweh. Trying to understand this "living being" before they ate off that tree? The breath of life

part, a little help here, thanks.

[year2027]

God first

thanks teachmevp

it not a Greek thing but a every Language known to men or unknown to men

like aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

a sound we used to talk

in our minds or outside our minds

how can be syncretism or un-syncretism

it does not matter

the word Yahweh does not make God a God

it just a word

serpent does not make God evil

our minds do that

with love and a holy kiss Roy

Edited November 25, 2010 by year2027

[teachmevp]

our minds do that

After they ate off that tree, our behavior can go either way; but before they ate off that

tree, the thing that "They" say makes us better than an animal, just trying to learn about

that imprint?

[year2027]

God first

thanks teachmevp

what makes us any greater than animal?

where does it say we are greater kind?

where we were create above one kind but not grater than any kind?

we were created in the image of God but that does make us greater

we were created outside matter and in matter

animals were created out of matter

with love and a holy kiss Roy

Edited November 25, 2010 by year2027

[cman]

to observe is different then being in play

though we are and don't know it

it's another thing to be in the serpent, god, Lucifer, Christ

all of them at once and know it

and the observant, knowing we are deep in it all....

well......mercy and forgiveness mean more then words can say

we are sought out to be devoured

is that a good thing or not?

Edited November 26, 2010 by cman

[teachmevp]

to observe is different then being in play

though we are and don't know it

it's another thing to be in the serpent, god, Lucifer, Christ

all of them at once and know it

and the observant, knowing we are deep in it all....

well......mercy and forgiveness mean more then words can say

we are sought out to be devoured

is that a good thing or not?

It seems after the tree was eaten off, our behavior can get us devoured?

Before they ate off that tree, they had freedom of will, would man on his

own, figure out they had the freedom to rebel?

[cman]

lol....

[cman]

when will you eat of the tree?

and these questions remain to be seen answered in you,

we are sought out to be devoured

is that a good thing or not?

i chuckle at

freedom of will

[teachmevp]

when will you eat of the tree?

and these questions remain to be seen answered in you,

i chuckle at

We all live that devoured like life, because they ate off that tree, it's up to

our behavior if that is a good thing or not? Do you chuckle when you rebel,

good thing for freedom of will?

[year2027]

God first

thanks teachmevp

No I understand it because its life

i destroy the oxygen kind by every breath I take

does that make me evil or good

it makes me evil because i must do it to live

does not make it right

with love and a holy kiss Roy

[cman]

i don't see any questions from you to me vp.

unless

Do you chuckle when you rebel

is a question, i would need to know what you mean by rebel?

and rebellion against what?

your ideas?

what you say is God's orders?

or am I free from you?

[teachmevp]

i don't see any questions from you to me vp.

unless

is a question, i would need to know what you mean by rebel?

and rebellion against what?

your ideas?

what you say is God's orders?

or am I free from you?

It's by eating of the fruit in defiance of Yahweh, human beings learn that they were able to do that, that

they are free moral agents. They find that out. They're able to choose their actions in conformity with Yahweh's

will or in defiance of Yahweh's will.

[cman]

human beings learn that they were able to do that

eventually, when it's shown

to that portion i agree

except i'd change 'were' to 'are'

[teachmevp]

eventually, when it's shown

to that portion i agree

except i'd change 'were' to 'are'

Human beings learn that they are able to do that, yet being created in the image of Yahweh carries a further implication.

It implies that human life is going to be charged with specific duties towards and rights over the created world. It seems,

therefore, that the idea of being created in the image of Yahweh is connected with those special rights and duties?

[year2027]

God first

thanks teachmevp and cman

I have a question who gave them the ability eat?

did God do it?

was it serpent?

was it man himself?

or was it woman?

that was ate from tree of knowledge.

it was the ability to eat that was the sin

with love and a holy kiss Roy

[teachmevp]

So they learn that they have moral autonomy, remember, they were made in the image of Yahweh,

and they learn that they have moral autonomy by making the defiant choice, the choice for disobedience.

So the very action that brought them a godlike awareness of their moral autonomy, was an action that

was taken in opposition to Yahweh. So we see then that having knowledge of good and bad is no guarantee

that one will choose or incline towards the good.

[teachmevp]

I guess the argument could be made that until they once disobeyed, how would they ever know that?

And then you might raise all sorts of questions about, well, was this part of Yahweh's plan that they ought

to know this and should know this, so that their choice for good actually becomes meaningful. Is it meaningful

to choose to do the good, when you have no choice to do otherwise, or aren't aware that you have a choice to

do other wise? Man's disobedience is the cause of the human predicament?

[cman]

disobedience is a good thing

[teachmevp]

disobedience is a good thing

There is no way to compensate or punish someone for murder, it simply means forfeiture

of one's own life; that's how sacred human life is? A good thing, no; but then again, it can

be a wake up call in a way? Treating the blood of Yeshua, as ordinary blood is not a cool thing?

[cman]

there's 2 bloods?

and yeah compensation for murder,

forgiveness

can't out run it

it will catch up to everyone

[teachmevp]

there's 2 bloods?

I really can't think of another blood, other then the blood everything has? I'm learning that

the life is in the blood, but Genesis 9:6=whoever sheds the blood of man, in exchange for

that man, shall his blood be shed, for in the image of Yahweh was man created; so in a way

two things could be going on in the blood?

[cman]

everyone's blood will be shed

so what

everyone dies

your will won't stop it

i'm wondering if you really are trying to communicate

other then what some book claims or logos/wisdom as you have said

books are a help

but not outmatched by the heart

the heart goes further, forever

Edited November 26, 2010 by cman

[teachmevp]

I really can't think of another blood, other then the blood everything has? I'm learning that

the life is in the blood, but Genesis 9:6=whoever sheds the blood of man, in exchange for

that man, shall his blood be shed, for in the image of Yahweh was man created; so in a way

two things could be going on in the blood?

So this blood is in everything, that blood belongs to Yahweh; could the image of Yahweh, be

the way the mind is functioning, functioning different from the animals?

[teachmevp]

everyone's blood will be shed

so what

everyone dies

your will won't stop it

i'm wondering if you really are trying to communicate

other then what some book claims or logos/wisdom as you have said

books are a help

but not outmatched by the heart

the heart goes further, forever

I'm trying to figure out what this thing is in our blood that makes it sacred, that same blood is in the animals;

kinda cool, because we have that power from on high in us, our bodys aren't ours either? The Image of Yahweh

could be how the mind works or something like that?

[year2027]

God first

thanks teachmevp

Chapter 21

Death of everything!

11-27-2010

We know everything dies but do we the reason everything dies because there is a reason for everything? The reason is the strong has to kill the weak to live an example is get food or to breath. Breathing we kill the animal called oxygen and this animal has the same right to live as we do.

Some people would say that just the way God plan it but I do not think so God let it happen to teach us about the value of life. This was the tree of knowledge that we ate by taking of this fruit we had to learn about good and evil. We came out of the womb of God to live outside of God’s glory.

We have been taught that if we believe that Christ rose from his death we will too but not all it says. Jesus Christ was about planting seeds, which he taught in his early years and past his death. It reads after that he would tell people that receive the gift of Holy Ghost he never know them.

But if they were born again how could he say that because born again is a poor translation of the word born again. A better word would be “conceived from above” and it fits with the Greek and the context. How about being buried with Christ and risen from the death with Christ?

When we are buried with Christ the seed of is planted in God in the womb of God we are planted with Christ. And we will get up from the death at the return of Christ at our death to live for every more.

Chapter 22

with love and a holy kiss Roy