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Four or so billion years after the earth has been in the second heaven, Yahweh all of a sudden plants a garden on the earth, just like the garden Yahweh planted upon the earth, while the earth was in the first heaven. The only difference between these two gardens are; in the first garden planted, their were stones of fire, from which Lucifer while wearing a vest like thing made of every precise stone, would carry Yahweh around the garden, because Lucifer was the Anointed Cherub that Covers. In the second garden planted, their was growing in the midst of the garden, the tree of life; but next to the tree of life, their was growing a tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Lucifer now known as Satan, if Satan can get Adam and Eve to eat off that tree of the knowledge of good and evil, Satan can prevent Adam and Eve’s offspring, the opportunity to eat off the tree of life? Yet, in the second garden, Yahweh is walking around, like Yahweh’s glory will not kill Adam and Eve, something has to be protecting Adam and Eve from Yahweh’s glory? Maybe Yahweh used a Kavod like thing in that second garden; with a Kavod like thing, Yahweh could live in the garden with Adam and Eve, without killing them with his glory? I heard it taught that spirit was on Adam and Eve, what good would it do them to have Yahweh’s body parts on them, Yahweh’s body is spirit? Adam and Eve didn’t eat off that tree of life, the life that tree produces cannot die? A Kavod like thing, would give Yahweh the freedom to walk around the garden.

From the time Yahweh enclosed this earth in a blackness of something, up to the planting of that second garden, Satan and his one-third of the angles that wanted to be with Satan, what a crazy ride they have been on; for billions of years, Satan and his clan have been in a state of confusion, clueless to what Yahweh was doing? When Satan saw Yahweh plant that second garden, Satan knew what this garden was, because Satan destroyed the first garden Yahweh planted, that was just like it? Interesting how Satan was lurking around that garden as some animal or something, trying to overhear everything Yahweh is talking about with Adam, before Eve was brought into existence, from Adam’s rib? Satan truly was the first lurker?

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I wonder what Satan thought, when he saw those two trees, in which Yahweh caused

to grow from the ground with all the other trees, in that second garden? Satan lukering

around, over hearing Yahweh command Adam of every tree of the garden you are free

to eat; but as for the tree of knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat of it; for as

soon as you eat of it, you shall die. The Tanakh uses the word bad, instead of evil; for

that tree? The Tanakh says, you shall die, instead of dying, you shall die, trippe stuff?

That tree of knowledge of good and bad is Satan's in; did Yahweh set Satan up, or was

Yahweh being fair to Satan; after all, no one can point their finger at Yahweh and say

that Yahweh was unfair to Satan?

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Genesis 2:3-5; And Yahweh blessed the seventh day and declared it holy, because on it

Yahweh ceased from all the work of creation that he had done. Such is the story of heaven

and earth when they were created. When Yahweh made earth and heaven-when no shrub

of the field was yet on earth and no grasses of the field had yet sprouted, because Yahweh

had not sent rain upon the earth and there was no man to till the soil,.

I tried to get some reasonings going on about those seven (a days), I learned I can't use the north,

what is in the north is their, but can't call it the north? It is interesting how Satan and his clan were

standing around on a shrubless and grassless earth, all the time while Yahweh was resting on the

seventh a day. Satan knew something was up, that must have be a nerve racking time for Satan and

his clan? Just showing the roots of the first lurker, Satan knows its on, but what Yahweh is up to,

that is wearing on O Satans mind?

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It is interesting that the DNA replication (that thing on (You Tube) was not at work

during this time, when Yahweh was resting on the seventh a day? Satan destroy that

DNA replication stuff on the earth when it was in the first heaven, Yahweh destroyed

that DNA replication stuff on the earth when it was in the second heaven? Satan knows

Yahweh is going to start that DNA replication stuff up again; but what is bugging Satan,

is he does not know what that DNA replication is going to make this time around, after

Yahweh gets done resting? I wonder if Satan knew Yahweh was resting? It must have been

a still in the air, so to speak?

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It is also interesting that Satan and his clan had a front row seat, they saw how Yahweh

destroyed that DNA replication stuff during the fifth (a day) that fifth time frame? Mind

bidding how that fifth time frame came to a end before Satan and his clan's eyes? As

Yahweh rested, I'm sure a gloominess stirred within, and yet a readiness within Satan,

not knowing; and yet, Yahweh wrote what is going to happen in the stars, during the

fourth (a day) forth time frame? Did Satan know the story, or did he learn the story by

his lurking around?

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It is interesting that in verse 4 of Genesis 2 it says the story of heaven and earth; but

later in that same verse it says made earth and heaven? All the more reason for us to

understand what is about to go down here? Let us not forget what Lucifer did, how he

murdered what was on the earth, while it was in the first heaven? Check out Yahweh's

wisdom behind all this, cool stuff how Yahweh sets up Satan?

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Genesis 2:5-6;

when no shrub of the field was yet on earth and no grasses of the field had yet sprouted,

because Yahweh had not sent rain upon the earth and there was no man to till the soil, but

a flow would well up from the ground and water the whole surface of the earth-

Yahweh got him a good rest, and all of a sudden, a flow would well up from the ground and

water the whole suface of the earth, maybe Satan and his clan were in ankle deep water or so?

What were the thoughts of Satan, was he focused, did all this water remind him of something;

perhaps Satan remembered what he did to that earth while it was in the first heaven? Lucifer

destroyed the earth, and that earth was left flooded, lifeless? But Yahweh, a flow would well up

from the ground and water the whole surface of the earth; a flooded lifeless earth about to be

brought back to life? Here is the beginning of the lurker Satan, I don't think Satan got in Yahweh's

face, not after that fifth a day or fifth time frame, I'm sure he became a lurker, lurking in the water?

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Genesis 2:7;

Yahweh formed man from the dust of the earth. He blew into his nostrils

the breath of life, and man became a living being.

I'm sure this took some time, one the minute water is on the whole surface of

the earth, then their some dust? But what was Satan thinking when he saw that

man; Satan has seen that kind of man, before? Why didn't Satan just walk right up

to this man and murder him, he murder the people in the garden on the earth, while

it was in the first heaven? But I if we think about it, Satan saw some of the craziest things

happen on the earth during the fifth (a day) or fifth time frame; no, I think Satan is going

to hang on to his lukering?

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Maybe what Satan saw Yahweh do, when that man became a living being, Satan knew Yahweh

had every right to do this? The very minute Lucifer destroyed what was living on the earth,

while that earth was in the first heaven, Satan lost all rights to the earth? The Kavod, could their

have been some kind of Kavod Yahweh was in? This man is not standing in the garden of Eden at

this point in time; the only way Yahweh could be on the earth with one man standing in front of him,

is if Yahweh was in some kind of Kavod? Their stands a flesh and bone living being with pure blood,

Satan lurking around to get a look; that must have been a wild snapshot to see?

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Genesis 1:5-28 says I can't say Yahweh was resting, when the event in last part of Genesis 2:4

is happing, how cool is that? So this is like the beginning of the sixth day, (trippe how it uses

the sixth day, instead of a fifth day? Coming out of a fifth day, going into the sixth day; Satan

and his clan find themselves with wet feet, because of Genesis 2:6; verse 5 of the same chapter,

their is no man to till the soil, then a living being is their that can till the soil in verse 7 of chapter

two of Genesis. Oops, I forgot to reason Genesis 1:24-31, this must be Eden in a way, because in

Genesis 2:8, Yahweh planted a garden in Eden, in verse 10 of chapter two, a river issues from Eden

to water the garden? Cool stuff.

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Let's reason Eden, but forgive me for using only Yahweh, all I know is my Father; I don't know

if that makes sense? Those names are important, but that is in another thread ( Christine Hayes )

if one would like to reason those names out?

Eden---Genesis 1:24-26---Yahweh said, "Let the earth bring forth every kind of living creature:

cattle, creeping things, and wild beasts of every kind." And it was so. Yahweh made wild beasts of

every kind and cattle of every kind, and all kinds of creeping things of the earth. And Yahweh saw

that this was good.

Was the whole earth Eden? After Satan and his clan got their feet wet, now they are lurking somewhere around

Eden? I wonder if it is at this time frame, when Satan decided to be that serpent thing, or at least he was

thinking about it? Trippe how Satan is lurking around, and then, a living being, a man was their?

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Genesis 2:8-9;

Yahweh planted a garden in Eden, in the east, and placed there a man whom he had formed.

And from the ground Yahweh caused to grow every tree that was pleasing to the sight and

good for food, with the tree of life in the middle of the garden and the tree of knowledge of

good ad bad.

How cool is this, Yahweh formed Adam in Eden, then Yahweh placed Adam in a garden that

Yahweh planted in Eden; as Adam stood their, Yahweh caused to grow every tree that was

pleasing to the sight and good for food, what a sight that must have been for Adam? I sure

those two trees got Satans attention as he was lukering around, where was the rest of Satans

clan, they weren't lurking in that garden?

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Genesis 2:10-14;

A river issues from Eden to water the garden, and it then divides and becomes four branches.

The name of the first is Pishon, the one that winds through the whole land of Havilah, where

the gold is, (The gold of that land is good; bdellium is there, and lapis lazuli.) The name of

the second river is Gihon, the one that winds through the whole land of Cush. The name of

the third river is Tigris, the one that flows east of Asshur. And the fourth river is the Euphrates.

This Eden must have been big, how cool it is that a river issues from Eden to water the garden,

what a sight this must have been? Only in the garden was every tree that was pleasing to the sight

and good for food? Satan lurking around, got his eyeball on those two trees?

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Genesis 2:15;

Yahweh took the man and placed him in the garden of Eden, to till it and tend it.

In Genesis 2:8, Yahweh must have placed Adam on the edge of the garden, then in

2:15, Yahweh placed Adam in the garden of Eden? Satan lurking around, watching Adam

tiling and tending the garden, and also wondering what is up with those two trees?

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Genesis 2:16-17;

And Yahweh commanded the man, saying, "Of every tree of the garden you are free to eat,

but as for the tree of knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat of it, for as soon as you

eat of it, you shall die."

Maybe Satan wasn't lurking around the garden itself, but was up in a tall tree on the edge of the

garden, as he over heard Yahweh command Adam not to eat of that tree; after all this lurking around,

Satan has a way to get into that garden?

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Genesis 2:18-20;

Yahweh said, "It is not good for man to be alone, I will make a fitting helper for him." And Yahweh

formed out of the earth all the wild beasts and all the birds of the sky, and brought them to the man

to see what he would call them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that would be its name.

And the man gave names to all the cattle and to the birds of the sky and to all the wild beasts; but for

Adam no fitting helper was found.

How cool is this, now we know that their were no living creatures when Eden came to be, Adam was the

first living being from the dust of the earth? This sheds more insight to when Genesis 1:24-25 was done?

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Genesis 2:21-22;

So Yahweh cast a deep sleep upon the man; and, while he slept, he took one of his ribs and closed

up the flesh at that spot. And Yahweh fashioned the rib that he had taken from the man into a woman;

and he brought her to the man.

In Genesis 1:27--And Yahweh created man in his image, in the image of Yahweh he created him; male and female he created them.

Genesis 2:23-24;

Then the man said, "This one at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh. This one shall be called Woman,

for from man was she taken." Hence a man leaves his father and mother and clings to his wife, so that they become

one flesh.

Satan lurking around, overhearing all this, seeing all this, I wonder if the people in the first garden on the

earth, while it was in the first heaven, had a soul? Maybe a soul is the image of Yahweh, the soul is in the

blood; male and female he created them, maybe male and female create that soul, each time a person is born

through the blood? Maybe a soul, in 1:27?

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Genesis 1:26-31;

And Yahweh said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. They shall rule the fish of the sea,

the birds of the sky, the cattle, the whole earth, and all the creeping things that creep on earth." And Yahweh

created man in his image, in the image of Yahweh he created him; male and female he created them. Yahweh

blessed them and Yahweh said to them, "Be fertile and increase, fill the earth and master it; and rule the

fish of the sea, the birds of the sky, and all the living things that creep on earth." Yahweh said, "See, I give

you every seed-bearing plant that is upon all the earth, and every tree that has seed-bearing fruit; they

shall be yours for food. And to all the animals on land, to all the birds of the sky, and to everything that

creeps on earth, in which there is the breath of life, I give all the green plants for food." And it was so.

And Yahweh saw all that he had made, and found it very good, And there was morning, the sixth day.

It is interstring using a Tanakh translation, in 1:30 says in which there is the breath of life; I don't think that

breath life was created? It kinda seems what was created in the man and woman was soul, after they were

already walking around the garden; when Adam named the animals, I don't think he had soul in his blood?

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Genesis 2:1-3;

The heaven and the earth were finished, and all their array. On the seventh day Yahweh finished the work

that he had been doing, and he ceased on the seventh day from all the work that he had done. And Yahweh

blessed the seventh day and declared it holy, because on it Yahweh ceased from all the work of creation that

he had done.

Yahweh is at rest now, before Genesis 3:1 tell us about how Yahweh's rest was interrupted? In Genesis 2:25-The

two of them were naked, the man and his wife, yet they felt no shame. Adam and Eve, their innocence, and their

ignorance of what that tree of knowledge of good and bad can produce? How cool this must have been when

Yahweh was at rest, Eden was a happen place, the garden of Eden was a really happen place; but Satan lurking

around, he has got to miss this all up?

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I tred to show a bunch of different time frames, in which Satan was lurking around in, before Genesis 3:1

begins? I didn't start out to do this study, but this Tanakh is something else, maybe somebody who really

knows the Tanakh can teach us more?

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Genesis 2:4--Such is the story of heaven and earth when they were created. When Yahweh made earth and heaven-

Beginning here in Genesis 2:4, we can see the story of the seven time frames of heaven and earth? (Genesis 1:1-2:3) Yet when Yahweh made earth and heaven, this was done during the sixth time frame; after Yahweh was done doing what he was doing during the sixth day, Yahweh rested on the seventh day? Yet Satan interrupted Yahweh’s rest during this seventh time frame; Satan disrupted Eden, by totally disrupting what was going on in the garden of Eden; the story of this disruption begins in Genesis 3:1?

Genesis 2:5-6;

-when no shrub of the field was yet on earth and no grasses of the field had yet sprouted, because Yahweh had not sent rain upon the earth and there was no man to till the soil, but a flow would well up from the ground and water the whole surface of the earth=

A lot of things can be said about how that fifth time frame ended; it lasted for over 4 or more billions of years, and yet, it did end? Here in Genesis 2:5-6 we see the beginning of the sixth time frame, shrubs and grasses wanted to sprouted, but plant life has been around since the third time frame; plant life is tough, regardless of rain? We see Yahweh gave the whole surface of the earth a good soaking with water, instead of sending rain? Before a flow would well up from the ground and water the whole surface of the earth, the soil was just right to be tilled, but their was no man to till the soil? Here it is showing the beginning of Eden?

Genesis 2:7;

-Yahweh formed man from the dust of the earth. He blew into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living being.

From the dust of Eden, if we can say that? Interesting how Yahweh blew into Adams nostrils the breath of life; Adam became a living being, not a living soul? We also see that Adam is the only living being alive, with the breath of life?

Genesis 2:8-9;

Yahweh planted a garden in Eden, in the east, and placed there the man whom he had formed. And from the ground Yahweh caused to grow every tree that was pleasing to the sight and good for food, with the tree of life in the middle of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and bad.

Here we see Yahweh planted a garden in the east of Eden, and that Yahweh placed there the man whom he had formed. He we see that Adam is still the only living being with the breath life, alive in Eden? Yahweh placed Adam on the edge of the garden, what a sight that would have been, seeing Yahweh grow this garden, causing every tree that was pleasing to the sight and good for food, to grow from the ground?

Genesis 2:10-14;

A river issues from Eden to water the garden, and it then divides and becomes four branches. The name of the first is Pishon, the one that winds through the whole land of Havilah, where the gold is. (The gold of that land is good; bdellium is there, and lapis lazuli.) The name of the second river is Gihon, the one that winds through the whole land of Cush. The name of the third river is Tigris, the one that flows east of Asshur. And the fourth river is the Euphrates.

That river that issues from Eden to water the garden must have been big; then how it runs through the garden and then divides and becomes four branches? Yet in all this vastness of Eden, Adam was the only living being with the breath life?

Genesis 2:15-17;

Yahweh took the man and placed him in the garden of Eden, to till it and tend it. And Yahweh commanded the man, saying, “Of every tree of the garden you are free to eat; but as for the tree of knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat of it; for as soon as you eat of it, you shall die.”

Yahweh must have been in some kind of Kavod like thing, as he commanded Adam not to eat off that tree, Yahweh’s glory would have destroy Adam? He we see Adam is still the only living being alive, with the breath of life, and yet, if Adam eats off that tree he will die, no more breath life? Yahweh must have been in a Kavod like thing, when he formed Adam from the dust of the ground in Eden; because the tree of life was already in the garden, when Yahweh put Adam in the garden to till and tend it? The life, that tree can produce in Adam, I don’t think Yahweh would need to use a Kavod like thing, but it does not appear that Adam ate off the tree of life? And yet, Adam’s innocence, and his ignorance of everything, what a life that must have been, living in Eden?

Genesis 2:18;

Yahweh said, “It is not good for man to be alone; I will make a fitting helper for him.”

Genesis 1:24-25;

Yahweh said, “Let the earth bring forth every kind of living creature: cattle, creeping things, and wild beasts of every kind and cattle of every kind, and all kinds of creeping things of the earth.” And Yahweh saw that this was good.

Genesis 2:19-20;

And the Yahweh formed out of the earth all the wild beasts and all the birds of the sky, and brought them to the man to see what he would call them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that would be its name. And the man gave names to all the cattle and to the birds of the sky and to all the wild beasts; but for Adam no fitting helper was found.

Now we can see that Adam was not alone any more; here we also see how Genesis 1:24-25 is worked into this storyline of Eden? Interesting all the time it took for all this to happen, how cool it would have been, to be able to name these living creatures; but for Adam no fitting helper was found? What a sight Eden must have been, to be able to see all these living creatures alive; these living creatures must have been different from what was alive during the fifth time frame?

Genesis 2:21-25;

So Yahweh cast a deep sleep upon the man; and, while he slept, he took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh at that spot. And Yahweh fashioned the rib that he had taken from the man into a woman; and he brought her to the man. Then the man said, “This one at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh. This one shall be called Woman, for from man was she taken.” Hence a man leaves his father and mother and clings to his wife, so that they become one flesh. The two of them were naked, the man and his wife, yet they felt no shame.

Adam and his wife were naked, yet they felt no shame, this attests to their innocence but also to their ignorance. We must stand in awe of what is going on in Eden, as Adam meets his wife for the first time?

Genesis 1:26-31;

And Yahweh said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. They shall rule the fish of the sea, the birds of the sky, the cattle, the whole earth, and all the creeping things that creep on earth.” And Yahweh created man in his image, in the image of Yahweh he created him; male and female he created them. Yahweh blessed them and Yahweh said to them, “Be fertile and increase, fill the earth and master it; and rule the fish of the sea, the birds of the sky, and all the living things that creep on earth.” Yahweh said, “See, I give you every seed-bearing plant that is upon all the earth and every tree that has seed-bearing fruit; they shall be yours for food. And to all the animals on land, to all the birds of the sky, and to everything that creeps on earth, in which there is the breath of life, I give all the green plants for food.” And it was so. And Yahweh saw all that he had made, and found it very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.

Yahweh does some more things here, before the seventh time frame begins, when Yahweh take a rest? Yahweh creates in Adam and his wife, soul life in their blood, as Adam and his wife have kids, they will create that soul in their kids blood, and on and on? Having a soul must be a big deal, could Yahweh have a soul, what is his image and his likeness? Yahweh told them to be fertile and increase, fill the earth and master it; and rule the fish of the sea, the birds of the sky, and all the living things that creep on earth; they had food, everything they needed?

Genesis 2:1-3;

The heaven and the earth were finished, and all their array. On the seventh day Yahweh finished the work that he had been doing, and he ceased on the seventh day from all the work that he had done. And Yahweh blessed the seventh day and declared it holy, because on it Yahweh ceased from all the work of creation that he had done.

Here we see Yahweh at rest, Eden is going on, on the earth, as Yahweh is resting somewhere, maybe in heaven itself? No need for Yahweh to be in Eden, or the garden of Eden, look at what Yahweh said to them before Yahweh took his rest? All this could have taken a whole lot of time; but Satan once again has a plan, Genesis 3:1 begins to tell that story of the disruption of Eden?

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