So...I was thinking about the Wounded Warrior earlier,I thought of the Ephesians 6 :10 -20 Chapter and how The Way International liked to use that as leverage to motivate believers to go wow,go corp or do whatever they wanted us to do.
Ofcourse I believe that a good many of these people believe in God and Love the Lord,but during our journey in our life we got snagged by The Way. Like a prisoner of war!
I try to explain it like this,here you are hungry for God,wanting Truth and here comes The Way International and there classes. With eyes wide open like a Wonder Child
we prepare to make a life change by taking this class,to KNOW God to Know the Bible .
I remember the day I went to Limb Hq's in Oklahoma and the Wow who undersheparded me helped me to get a bible,and it was like Gold in my hands,I loved it ...
I loved the smell of it and I loved the Hope that I had in my heart to find meaning in life.
When the class began and the teacher with the weird voice (on audio back in 78)said Open your bibles and turn with me to John 10:10(I had NO idea where that was
NONE)
Never went to vacation bible school and never had a bible! I wanted to know everything! I was sure I was in the right place and when the teacher said put ALL newspapers,magazines and so forth away , I did.
I would rush home from college and then straight to The Class. there were 7 of us in an upstair apartment ,a vietnam vet, a sales man from Sears ,and a few college kids.
28 Wows that year in Oklahoma City. Most of them as green as I was but I thought these people have it together,they are soooo cool. But later I realized when I went Wow the next year,they were all saying the same thing.
However a lovely group of people back then unless you crossed them.(or disagreed with Way teaching) drop them don't waste time I really didn't notice that too much
in Oklahoma.
I was a lovely person too as it turned out and after the class if you crossed me about The Way (basically you were The Adversary!)
So......my family became the Adversary and like those mirrors in the fun house at the state fairs,things began to get DISTORTED(in how I looked at things)
I was now convinced of everything The Way International taught me and I was advised to put on the whole armor of God,to stand and having done all STAND.
(according to Way beliefs that is) The Sword was The Word and The Word of God was the Will of God. and as Claudette sang Nothing is gonna stop me Nothing is
gonna stop me cause I've been born again.
Bond Servant/Slave .................................with all good intentions to serve........................
However. Instead of fighting the good fight thinking we were on the right side,doing the right thing.....the enemy had trained us and formed us to be spiritually disfunctional.
Chasing dragons with Plastic Swords and going in Circles as if our night vision was impaired and we all followed the pied piper down the rabbitt whole singing
How Firm a foundation.............when all along it was quicksand.....sinking sand!!!
As we fought we got stuck in the mire,traps...snares placed there by our OWN "FRIENDLY FIRE" if you will. We were killing ourselves spiritually speaking and
so.......... here we are broken swords and all. But,........ Freedom( from that fight is over.) if you are OUT of The Way physically out but spiritually and emotionally you may feel beat up........wounded
Not intrested in a Church....,not intrested in anything...but that Spirit still calls you out . Not the one like Hotel California but, the one you first yearned for long ago
the one God who never gave up on you.
We took a wrong turn and ended up lost in a distorted forrest of The Way Tree.
"Wounds have to be cleaned out,sutured,put medicine on and allowed TIME to heal. After that you have NOT (((NEW SKIN))) but SCAR and Scar is 10 times stronger than skin.
It is a sign that some kind of seperation occured and was mended and it is STRONGER.
You found your way back!
If a wound is not atttended to at the worst an amputation is needed or a the least like gangreene where there is NO life in the wounded area."
I listened to this today ,from the story teller while cleaning my kitchen and watching my grandson and thought of it in this light of these people of The Way International.
I've tried reading all of this.. but it was hard to keep up..
maybe.. the whole point is.. it's over, when it's all over..
what does one say then..
ha! give me a few more minutes here..
I will try to break it down,(from the poem )
What do we owe our familiares, relatives in spirit, who have been threatened spiritually, betrayed, abandoned, turned away when they begged for spiritual food?
What do we owe to those who have been injured by religious, thereby having their natural religiosity and spirituality abruptly amputated... religiosity and spirituality being a sacred process inborn into each soul, meant to occur naturally, in its own rhythm, with the precious and gradual unfolding of one's very own spiritual gifts, life-mending insights, and ever deepening spiritual views?
What do we owe to those who are sickened by the thought of spirit now, who cringe to think of anything religious, who distrust and try to avoid anyone who carries religiosity? What do we owe those who don't know what or who to trust again... in some horrible version of what back home we call: Cat, once burnt, won't sit on a cold stove.
What do we owe to those waiting decades and even unto death, for even mere notice, or help, or an empathic response, heart understanding, or apologies that are made of real medicine for the wound, that truly reach to the depths to help mend what pains the soul?
think the small voice answer is: We could. We could, each in our own ways, be some of the ones who bring non-worldly food that feeds here and now -- our own and others’ spiritual need -- for sharpened sight and spirit blood transfusion and creative strength. There is a wisdom set into us which proposes that a slightly different point of view, a more aerial view will reveal to us -- for the tri-jillionth time in our lives as we struggle along -- that things are not always as they seem ...
that a wound is not only a laceration, it may also be a door ...
I think to all the people reading this and this site, and how it offers support that some can not find after time in The Way International not just for people who were in but also family member who were affected and did not understand what happened to there loved ones after The Way teachings?
maybe it's like a lizard.. if it loses its tail, it grows back.. or has the capacity to. But it isn't exactly the same tail..
maybe I'm looking for the perfect religion..
Where one is not perpetually an outsider, no matter how dedicated a follower can become..
where friendships are not based on a particular belief, or lack of.. or based on performance.. or one's income..
I hear you Ham and understand where your coming from,some people in any organization act like things trying to destroy (kill steal and destroy)those still hung up on Way doctrine that is twisted and distorted,but then there are those people who have left and are humble and honest about loving God and miss that....desire that and are broken and need healing(from being in a Cult like The Way)..but don't know how are where to turn,maybe they are skiddish about going anywhere and that is okay.
I don't want people to think because The Way International burned them and used them that they don't fit anywhere else in The Body of Christ....because I believe at 1 time
every believer had a genuine desire to KNOW truth to know God or else WHY would we have even bothered with a (cough/choke "so called Biblial Research and Teaching
ministry)
Along The Way(pardon the pun)we got spiritually raped (to put it as nice as I can) Speaking for myself I thought I would never get back to a place in mylife I could accept
Gods love...The Way made me feel condemned,shunned and because of the broken vow they made me think(by serving The Way International ..the buisness of running there classes for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$) that when I left I was turning my back on God!!!!
That is wrong, I was turning my back on The Way (the buisness of selling candy coated snake oil.) but of course after being told You'll be a grease spot by midnight and things like that,tripped out blah blah blah,and that THEY are the only people who have it all together ,who despise other religons,and have all the answers except it is all
according to The Classes they have learned..........the same...answers ..like a parrott over and over and over.......BORING.
However. People were HURT,Children were HURT families HURT. Broken ..............Wounded.
Spiritually speaking Paralyzied...Numb...........
and in there heart of hearts.........they Loved God...............along time ago .........when they wanted answers and thought they would find it in The Way International.
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So...I was thinking about the Wounded Warrior earlier,I thought of the Ephesians 6 :10 -20 Chapter and how The Way International liked to use that as leverage to motivate believers to go wow,go corp or do whatever they wanted us to do.
Ofcourse I believe that a good many of these people believe in God and Love the Lord,but during our journey in our life we got snagged by The Way. Like a prisoner of war!
I try to explain it like this,here you are hungry for God,wanting Truth and here comes The Way International and there classes. With eyes wide open like a Wonder Child
we prepare to make a life change by taking this class,to KNOW God to Know the Bible .
I remember the day I went to Limb Hq's in Oklahoma and the Wow who undersheparded me helped me to get a bible,and it was like Gold in my hands,I loved it ...
I loved the smell of it and I loved the Hope that I had in my heart to find meaning in life.
When the class began and the teacher with the weird voice (on audio back in 78)said Open your bibles and turn with me to John 10:10(I had NO idea where that was
NONE)
Never went to vacation bible school and never had a bible! I wanted to know everything! I was sure I was in the right place and when the teacher said put ALL newspapers,magazines and so forth away , I did.
I would rush home from college and then straight to The Class. there were 7 of us in an upstair apartment ,a vietnam vet, a sales man from Sears ,and a few college kids.
28 Wows that year in Oklahoma City. Most of them as green as I was but I thought these people have it together,they are soooo cool. But later I realized when I went Wow the next year,they were all saying the same thing.
However a lovely group of people back then unless you crossed them.(or disagreed with Way teaching) drop them don't waste time I really didn't notice that too much
in Oklahoma.
I was a lovely person too as it turned out and after the class if you crossed me about The Way (basically you were The Adversary!)
So......my family became the Adversary and like those mirrors in the fun house at the state fairs,things began to get DISTORTED(in how I looked at things)
I was now convinced of everything The Way International taught me and I was advised to put on the whole armor of God,to stand and having done all STAND.
(according to Way beliefs that is) The Sword was The Word and The Word of God was the Will of God. and as Claudette sang Nothing is gonna stop me Nothing is
gonna stop me cause I've been born again.
Bond Servant/Slave .................................with all good intentions to serve........................
However. Instead of fighting the good fight thinking we were on the right side,doing the right thing.....the enemy had trained us and formed us to be spiritually disfunctional.
Chasing dragons with Plastic Swords and going in Circles as if our night vision was impaired and we all followed the pied piper down the rabbitt whole singing
How Firm a foundation.............when all along it was quicksand.....sinking sand!!!
As we fought we got stuck in the mire,traps...snares placed there by our OWN "FRIENDLY FIRE" if you will. We were killing ourselves spiritually speaking and
didn't even see it coming.
We were WOUNDED WARRIORS.
Why?
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so.......... here we are broken swords and all. But,........ Freedom( from that fight is over.) if you are OUT of The Way physically out but spiritually and emotionally you may feel beat up........wounded
Not intrested in a Church....,not intrested in anything...but that Spirit still calls you out . Not the one like Hotel California but, the one you first yearned for long ago
the one God who never gave up on you.
We took a wrong turn and ended up lost in a distorted forrest of The Way Tree.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
(this part from Dr. Clarrisa Pinkola Estess)
"Wounds have to be cleaned out,sutured,put medicine on and allowed TIME to heal. After that you have NOT (((NEW SKIN))) but SCAR and Scar is 10 times stronger than skin.
It is a sign that some kind of seperation occured and was mended and it is STRONGER.
You found your way back!
If a wound is not atttended to at the worst an amputation is needed or a the least like gangreene where there is NO life in the wounded area."
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I listened to this today ,from the story teller while cleaning my kitchen and watching my grandson and thought of it in this light of these people of The Way International.
and I thought ....Leave no man behind.
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I've tried reading all of this.. but it was hard to keep up..
maybe.. the whole point is.. it's over, when it's all over..
what does one say then..
ha! give me a few more minutes here..
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Leave no man behind..
what about the pets?
if they don't go.. I don't go..
right. They are *lesser(?) than us..
I tend to think inductively.
the almighty has time for.. anything but lesser(?) creatures..
I'm pretty lesser..
I mean.. you have to figure in.. who is going to change the cats box..
what makes you think humans are any less .. what's the word..
convenient to have around..
maybe I'm just looking at another paradox..
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Sorry if this is a derail but it made me think of THIS.
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Very good thought..
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I will try to break it down,(from the poem )
What do we owe our familiares, relatives in spirit, who have been threatened spiritually, betrayed, abandoned, turned away when they begged for spiritual food?
What do we owe to those who have been injured by religious, thereby having their natural religiosity and spirituality abruptly amputated... religiosity and spirituality being a sacred process inborn into each soul, meant to occur naturally, in its own rhythm, with the precious and gradual unfolding of one's very own spiritual gifts, life-mending insights, and ever deepening spiritual views?
What do we owe to those who are sickened by the thought of spirit now, who cringe to think of anything religious, who distrust and try to avoid anyone who carries religiosity? What do we owe those who don't know what or who to trust again... in some horrible version of what back home we call: Cat, once burnt, won't sit on a cold stove.
What do we owe to those waiting decades and even unto death, for even mere notice, or help, or an empathic response, heart understanding, or apologies that are made of real medicine for the wound, that truly reach to the depths to help mend what pains the soul?
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still breaking it down...........
think the small voice answer is: We could. We could, each in our own ways, be some of the ones who bring non-worldly food that feeds here and now -- our own and others’ spiritual need -- for sharpened sight and spirit blood transfusion and creative strength. There is a wisdom set into us which proposes that a slightly different point of view, a more aerial view will reveal to us -- for the tri-jillionth time in our lives as we struggle along -- that things are not always as they seem ...
that a wound is not only a laceration, it may also be a door ...
I think to all the people reading this and this site, and how it offers support that some can not find after time in The Way International not just for people who were in but also family member who were affected and did not understand what happened to there loved ones after The Way teachings?
I'm just saying wounds heal in time.
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amputated spirituality.. interesting..
maybe it's like a lizard.. if it loses its tail, it grows back.. or has the capacity to. But it isn't exactly the same tail..
maybe I'm looking for the perfect religion..
Where one is not perpetually an outsider, no matter how dedicated a follower can become..
where friendships are not based on a particular belief, or lack of.. or based on performance.. or one's income..
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I hear you Ham and understand where your coming from,some people in any organization act like things trying to destroy (kill steal and destroy)those still hung up on Way doctrine that is twisted and distorted,but then there are those people who have left and are humble and honest about loving God and miss that....desire that and are broken and need healing(from being in a Cult like The Way)..but don't know how are where to turn,maybe they are skiddish about going anywhere and that is okay.
I don't want people to think because The Way International burned them and used them that they don't fit anywhere else in The Body of Christ....because I believe at 1 time
every believer had a genuine desire to KNOW truth to know God or else WHY would we have even bothered with a (cough/choke "so called Biblial Research and Teaching
ministry)
Along The Way(pardon the pun)we got spiritually raped (to put it as nice as I can) Speaking for myself I thought I would never get back to a place in mylife I could accept
Gods love...The Way made me feel condemned,shunned and because of the broken vow they made me think(by serving The Way International ..the buisness of running there classes for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$) that when I left I was turning my back on God!!!!
That is wrong, I was turning my back on The Way (the buisness of selling candy coated snake oil.) but of course after being told You'll be a grease spot by midnight and things like that,tripped out blah blah blah,and that THEY are the only people who have it all together ,who despise other religons,and have all the answers except it is all
according to The Classes they have learned..........the same...answers ..like a parrott over and over and over.......BORING.
However. People were HURT,Children were HURT families HURT. Broken ..............Wounded.
Spiritually speaking Paralyzied...Numb...........
and in there heart of hearts.........they Loved God...............along time ago .........when they wanted answers and thought they would find it in The Way International.
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Nuff said!
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The Way International(((DOOR)))is more like Greetings to see the man behind the curtain in Oz!
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